BooneyToonz X: Boonin’ It In The Slums [TOWN WIN]

[RAS]

Desperate as a modifier was used in another BooneyToonz game, wasn't it?
We might have the actual role card from that game to verify what it means.
It would be really surprising if both lovers town.
It's a busier than normal Saturday in RL.
It would be really helpful to have a consensus on 2 additional scum. I'm against rushing the day.

I clarified with Boonskiies pregame because I hadn't heard of the modifier either.

I described its description in here:

whats desperate mod do btw?
i cant find it on the wiki

It’s basically Disloyal that will also go through Millers.

[awestfie]

Repeating, I'm against rushing the day.

I'm against this. The hard guilty will narrow down our conversations a lot. It's not a thing we can just forget. I understanding wanting more conversation but I don't think it's going to happen in the way that you want.

The problem is that most people will be focused on the hard guilty as opposed to anything else.

[awestfie]

understanding

understand*

[Nero Cain]

What are your reads Dave?

[davesaz]

This is from the "under the sea" game.

You are a Town Desperate Neighborizer. You have your voice and your vote to influence the discussion. You may also neighborize a player each night. If they return a mafia result to an alignment cop, your ability succeeds, otherwise your ability will fail and you will die.
You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

This does not match.

@Mod: Would a modifier in this game need to match the definition of that same modifier from another BooneyToonz game?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Yes Dave - that was the q.

[RAS]

This is from the "under the sea" game.

You are a Town Desperate Neighborizer. You have your voice and your vote to influence the discussion. You may also neighborize a player each night. If they return a mafia result to an alignment cop, your ability succeeds, otherwise your ability will fail and you will die.
You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

This does not match.

@Mod: Would a modifier in this game need to match the definition of that same modifier from another BooneyToonz game?

What are you on about? If I check Mafia, I get a Mafia result. If I check Town, my ability fails.

AKA, it's basically Disloyal that goes through Miller.

[Vorkuta]

What even is this role

so do we mass claim?

[Boonskiies]

This is from the "under the sea" game.

You are a Town Desperate Neighborizer. You have your voice and your vote to influence the discussion. You may also neighborize a player each night. If they return a mafia result to an alignment cop, your ability succeeds, otherwise your ability will fail and you will die.
You win when the mafia are eliminated and at least one town player is alive.

This does not match.

@Mod: Would a modifier in this game need to match the definition of that same modifier from another BooneyToonz game?

Not necessarily, but it would have to essentially be the same thing. Bunyip has switched from Neapolitan to Vanilla Cop between games, but if it hasn’t been posted anywhere then it would essentially be a variant.

[Nero Cain]

Whats your miller flavor Dave?

[RAS]

so do we mass claim?

No.

[davesaz]

What are your reads Dave?

The most honest answer I can give right now is that I don't remember. All the new info is likely going to cause a reset anyway.

[Nero Cain]

I agree that Vork is stupid, just not 100% on the town part.

Maybe, hopefully, scum is just in TLK and CJ (and maybe Sheldon?)

both Dave and Vork seem scummy to me and I will be pushing there if there hasn't been a solve in the above.

[RAS]

I did enjoy Dave's digging of the desperate modifier despite my explanation of it, but I don't understand how he came to the conclusion that it didn't match when it's exactly what I said. Either way, I still think he's Town.

Maybe, hopefully, scum is just in TLK and CJ (and maybe Sheldon?)

I'm hoping for this too. Either way, I think there's 2/3 Scum in there at the very least.

[davesaz]

Whats your miller flavor Dave?

It isn't an easily consumable thing without starting to actually quote stuff. To paraphrase it's street talk for basically on the run / wanted man.

Pedit: RAS, what I posted says "mafia to an alignment cop" which means millers are guilty if it's the same thing in your role. And in the other game it dies if it targets town, so it's more like the opposite of a weak where normally weak dies targeting scum. If your role includes that death thing then it's important that you crumb targets in some way.

[Xtoxm]

If your role includes that death thing then it's important that you crumb targets in some way.

yeah, can you clarify this? its a big thing
and no point crumbing at this stage, straight up declaring target is the play

[Xtoxm]

well i expect youre doing it in the pt anyway now i think on it
but it would be nice to know if we're going to have you die from a bad target

[RAS]

Yeah, I'm not going to crumb anything. I will be outing my target publicly.

I didn't get a good chance to crumb on Day 1 since the day ended prematurely and I was unsure as to who I was going to check at the time.

[Xtoxm]

and i no longer suspect you ras with all the new info. ftr

[RAS]

well i expect youre doing it in the pt anyway now i think on it
but it would be nice to know if we're going to have you die from a bad target

I outed my target in the PT, but it's still something I should crumb since there was a chance that both awestfie and I could've died last night.

Either way, there's no reason to keep it in the PT now that my role is out there.

[RAS]

..

it's still something I should've crumbed since there was a chance

..

EBWOP.

Also, I forgot if I mentioned this, but I strongly believe that Xtoxm is town now that the Lovers outed. I suspect one of the Scum is in the Lovers, and it'd be a weird thing to claim when it was completely unnecessary to do so.

[davesaz]

It's helpful to be as precise as possible on these things. When I'm given accurate information and not slapped down relentlessly it can lead to an outright solve. Thanks for the clarification.

[Tchill13]

I think I can save us some time here

Nero and I _ARE_ lovers not masons

This will be a major discussion point tomorrow so let’s just skip the crap

Happy to go through it pre lynch or just wait for tomorrow

Thx for the lie again Nero much appreciated............................................................................

[RAS]

It's helpful to be as precise as possible on these things. When I'm given accurate information and not slapped down relentlessly it can lead to an outright solve. Thanks for the clarification.

Don't worry about it. I should've clarified better instead of questioning how you misunderstood it.

[Tchill13]

OK and I didn't mean for ppl to start calling Vork stupid Lmao.... It's just a figure of speech to explain my reasoning.