Brandi wrote:Also I'm a bit confused as to why Mike is number 2 on your list. He may have not been posting today, but I don't think that means hes been lurking....
He was my number 2 in post 127, for the reasons I stated in that post. Since then, he hasn't posted, and I'm not going to let him slide down my list just because he hasn't been noticeable. Otherwise, scum could just lurk their way to victory every game. Please note this is different from just attacking someone for lurking and nothing else, mike was suspicious and then started being silent.
Brandi wrote:Isn't that exciting though? I feel pretty excited myself whenever I awaken to see this game has a bunch of new comments that I haven't read yet. Its like getting a handful of candy that you've never tasted before. =)
It is kinda exciting, but also makes me feel like I'm not posting enough heh.
Brandi wrote:Also, dear God Armlx, how many games are you in? How can your mind not explode from being in more than 4 at a time? You must really love mafia *___*
wow alot has happened sinse i last looked. i am just confused. Bazza looked so guilty 2 pages ago now it looks like it was a poly to draw out scum. Making him town. or he has pulled a fast one by saying it was a ploy.
i will have to look at it further but bazza is still my number 1 suspect.
mike-zim wrote: or he has pulled a fast one by saying it was a ploy.
This is my personal opinion. I've only ever seen a trap not based on role PM wordings catch scum once. I have seen scum claim traps many more times, and people "trap" town members just as many.
The OMGUS, i was not aware of....but perhaps the reason i am suspicious of them is because they are attacking me (who i know to be townie) (not a plea...fact)
I was going to put Q-Man on my tentative town list because i felt that 2 of the three on my mafia list were definitely townies....but then i realised there was no evidence which suggested at all that Q-man was not mafia. As for the Angelmouse argument, her post when she came back seemed pro-townie to me.
i am almost at the point of giving up, i have argued the inflated arguments against a bandwagon which now seems irreversable against people who fail to see my logic. I have so many Law assessments approaching in college and am part of another mafia game on spogg.com. I will go back and try to answer as many of the arguments against me as possible, but to be honest most of them are inflated and ALL of them are moves of a townie. Armix on the other hand should be dead, there is strong evidence against him, and if i die on Day 1 i urge everyone to go after him and Darox.
This may seem like a plea, in a sense it is. But i feel like i'm posting to a brick wall. Perhaps i am not as affluent or subtle in expressing my opinion as Armix and his mafia bud (Darox, or maybe Caf) but i feel that if people re-read the evidence will speak for itself.
And i know that i will probably die, but one good thing that will come of it is hopefully the townies will go after you and Darox afterwards.....
Role-fishing another mafia trait, congrats on making yourself even more suspicious to other people.
My suspicions on Darox were due to a progression of thought, NOT OMGUS.
As for Caf19, although she seemed pro-townie near the beginning, she pushed the FOS,HOS,VOTE thing a bit too much and inflated it. She also questioned my vote on you, which was based on evidence.
Several MD threads where it is discussed as well. Basically, when someone is close to a lynch, a claim is expected if not effectively required if that player expects to live. My math says L-1 is the correct point for newbies, but this is definitely equivalent to L-1.
Armix- perhaps your "Caf and baz are mafia buds" was infact you distancing yourself from Caf, which in my opinion is a plausible 2. Afterall, you and caf are already on my scum-list together.
was your post about me distancing from her to cover up you doing it?
Bazza-Scumfinder wrote:Armix- perhaps your "Caf and baz are mafia buds" was infact you distancing yourself from Caf, which in my opinion is a plausible 2. Afterall, you and caf are already on my scum-list together.
was your post about me distancing from her to cover up you doing it?
No, it was an analysis of your play given the most likely correct assumption you are mafia. However, as was mentioned, your list was actually all those who were attacking you, making it a much more likely OMGUS.
Wouldn't you prefer i read the evidence against me and refuted it???
The fact that i just claimed N-Townie means that the list of people (power-roles) for mafia to shoot at Night is now narrowed down. Therefore, it wasn't a very pro-townie thing for you to request. I gave it because i didn't want to seem resistant with people already suspecting me. The fact that 2 people are ONLY considering voting me means that they felt me refuting the evidence was a better option.
No, it was. You are probably going to be lynched as vanilla does nothing to help you. The point is just to make sure you aren't a confirmable power role.
3 + 2 = 5 BTW. I'm pretty sure no one has expressed that you are town though.
Armix is a good (experienced) player who has many of you guys fooled...being so vocal against him wouldn't be to my benefit even if i were mafia because i would die on Day 2.
the reason he is probably winning this argument is because he has his mafia buddy helping him....this means there is One townie on me and one townie on him. he also has his mafia bud arguing against me (most likely Darox) which makes the case seem stronger than it really is.
The fact is, the case is (or at least should be) stronger against Armix.
Armix, would you like to give evidence against anyone else??....you are afterall supposed to be looking for TWO mafia members. Not counting/accepting the Caf argument unless you present other scummy traits.
Well, as I said, I've come to realize you haven't pointed to Caf as your list was a pile of OMGUS. Probably not Clammy for reasons I have stated, not Mike again, Brandi I see as legitimately newbie town in this scenario.
That leaves Qman, Darox, and Angelmouse. Darox I'm not seeing as a buddy with you right now, so he's probably not an optimal lynch until later. So either Qman or Angel mouse.
If people were to re-read the posts they should recognise my motives have ALL been pro-townie.
To one of your arguments against me not voting early on: That could just as easily be a townie trying to act pro-townie thasn a mafia trying to act pro-townie.
Wow i had no idea 3+2 was 5 Armix, but thanks for sharing that with me Scum.
After i die, my name will be so relevant (scumhunter) and hopefully my team will not sway from my thoughts and kill you and Darox. This game is sooo irritating when nobody listens to you. I may get best Newb for finding the scum on the first day (then again the mafia have been pretty good at swaying peoples thoughts on me)
Armix, the fact that i refuted most of the arguments you placed against me yet you still use them and have not answered my rebuttals is frustrating....you have obviously decided to concentrate on killing one person regardless of what they say or do to disprove your points.
I have been far more liberal and have accused different people, because as a townie i am not aware of who my fellow townies are. You on the other hand have not accused other people because you have no interest in finding out who your fellow townies are.....you have put all of your effort into killing me, with total disregard to other players. Except of course for the "extra notes on players" which was to say the least vague.
You didn't want to commit to saying people were townie because you know on Day 2 after i'm gone you are going to have to look back and find things that are suspicious. Yet you didn't commit to them being scum wither because you don't want people to be against you. about people
armlx wrote:Well, as I said, I've come to realize you haven't pointed to Caf as your list was a pile of OMGUS. Probably not Clammy for reasons I have stated, not Mike again, Brandi I see as legitimately newbie town in this scenario.
That leaves Qman, Darox, and Angelmouse. Darox I'm not seeing as a buddy with you right now, so he's probably not an optimal lynch until later. So either Qman or Angel mouse.
LOL, easy targets because they are hardly ever here to defend themselves. I suppose this kinda nullifies part of my last post to you not committing to players.
But the fact that you have said the active players are most likely townies, is PURELY to keep them on side. You still never gave your opinion on caf there....and Darox was not a tentative town with you why??? (distancing)
I now wish to make my post about Armix being mafia with either Darox or Caf 100%....Sorry to whichever is Town (probably Caf) but i can't see any other viable combination....
Your arguments are getting more and more desperate.
Please show me where you have responded to all of these and I haven't counter argued that you are wrong
Not voting early
The Flippant thing on brandi
Your reaction to the random vote having to do specifically with you, not the fact he was randoming several pages in AND OMGUSing it.
Wanting to lurker press this early
Only inciting arguments between Me+Brandi and Mike + Brandi
Your false scenario of the Mike + Me issue
The appeal to emotion
The about face on me + mike, going against your progression of logic argument
The OMGUS of Darox on your scum list after he attacks you
1) Not voting early is NOT pro-town. Its an easy way for scum to hold back until they can commit safely somewhere.
And I did comment on who I thought was townie in the post you are attacking. You just fail to realize the idea that only so often can you D1 completely eliminate a suspect.
Day 1- I die, am revealed as Townie and you and Darox will be killed if the rest of the townies have any sense. also i get back to studying and my other mafia game.
Day 1- You die, only one mafia is left between Darox and Caf, i may die Night One but the rest of my team will hopefully continue by killing one of the two (starting with Darox)
