Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

Wiisp · Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:48 pm

@Worst
no

Chemist1422 · Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:54 pm

In post 4349, Dannflor wrote:Wait, is killing Chemist today gonna make PB not come back?

No but it will make me sad

ISO · Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:07 pm

In post 4349, Dannflor wrote:Wait, is killing Chemist today gonna make PB not come back?

not that I know of? I don't really follow why Bill isn't here.

Dannflor · Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:32 pm

SS, do you truly believe mastina!hydra is scum here are you mostly just frustrated with her?

Dannflor · Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:35 pm

Also, I'm having a hard time imagining a town-aligned role that makes a player vanish from the game for a day phase.

Dannflor · Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:39 pm

In post 4347, the worst wrote:deep enough a wolf i'm not interested in trying to go there today

Why did you out this hot take and then immediately back off? I understand not wanting to pursue it today I'm genuinely curious what sparked that thought process for you.

ftr I don't really think you're scum, I just don't think you've left your scum range yet.

Dannflor · Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:45 pm

I can't shake the feeling that SS would be dead by now were he town

ISO · Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:48 pm

In post 4355, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4347, the worst wrote:deep enough a wolf i'm not interested in trying to go there today
Why did you out this hot take and then immediately back off? I understand not wanting to pursue it today I'm genuinely curious what sparked that thought process for you.

ftr I don't really think you're scum, I just don't think you've left your scum range yet.

I'm abt the same back at you, it just pinged me when I was reflecting on people who's presence had dropped going into d2 (this gamestate would be awkward as shit to wolf in) and realised I might be loltownreading you from day one a little

the take is hot but I'm not super super invested in it, I'd rather look at slots I think have more general wolf equity

on another note I kinda just want chemist to claim what made Bill disappear

Dannflor · Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:52 pm

That's fair.

I agree about Chemist because I'm inclined to lynch him today honestly

Dannflor · Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 pm

Huh

There's no counter wagon at all right now

I wish I was Ankamius

Shining Dreamers · Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:54 pm

In post 4300, Reasonably Clever wrote:@SD: I'm agreeing with your conclusions about the best course of action. I can do that while letting you know the way you're trying to po ish this isn't helping your case.

@Wiisp: The obvious conclusion is so people just lock whoever remains unflipped as town for the rest of the game? If we conclude this is NEVER S/S, then by definition upon the flip of one as scum, the other is cleared, right?

-Cerb

If you agree with conclusion, then why are you not voting?

Wiisp · Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:30 am

@dann
In a world where SS is scum, do you have any thoughts on who else is scum?

Wiisp · Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 am

still think that Chemist is just town here...

Reasonably Clever · Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:35 am

In post 4360, Shining Dreamers wrote:
In post 4300, Reasonably Clever wrote:@SD: I'm agreeing with your conclusions about the best course of action. I can do that while letting you know the way you're trying to po ish this isn't helping your case.

@Wiisp: The obvious conclusion is so people just lock whoever remains unflipped as town for the rest of the game? If we conclude this is NEVER S/S, then by definition upon the flip of one as scum, the other is cleared, right?

-Cerb
If you agree with conclusion, then why are you not voting?

Because they've been hanging at l-1 or l-2 this whole time, and I hate shortening day phases if there's still valuable conversation to gain from it.

-Cerb

Chemist1422 · Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:49 am

In post 4362, Wiisp wrote:still think that Chemist is just town here...

For what exactly?

Reasonably Clever · Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:51 am

In post 4290, Reasonably Clever wrote:
In post 4282, Wiisp wrote:Better wording... If you think that SS/SD are not V/V, then it's 100% the correct choice to vote SS here, because in the case of these being W/V wagons, then SD from an individual and macro level, has an exceptionally higher chance of being a miss over SS
I agree with this.

I need more elaboration on why this is NEVER w/w?

What happens in the case of an SS town flip?

-Cerb

pedit: man, work got in the way and I got ninja'd

Cerb, you know Joan better than me. Do you think scum!her torpedoes her entire argument in a bizarre AtE?

Reasonably Clever · Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:55 am

In post 4313, the worst wrote:wow I have nothing else to talk abt
hot take: dann has highest deepwolf equity

Based on? Do you really think he sounds similar here to ND?

Reasonably Clever · Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:01 am

In post 4331, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4313, the worst wrote:hot take: dann has highest deepwolf equity
It's funny because I was thinking earlier today that you have the highest deepwolf equity.

What about duck makes you think he could be deep wolf? He hasn’t really done too much to impress me this game, so eh?

ISO · Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:10 am

In post 4353, Dannflor wrote:SS, do you truly believe mastina!hydra is scum here are you mostly just frustrated with her?

Little of A, little of B. It's more like a "if she's town she doesn't deserve to live." I think there's a decent chance she is scum, but if she's town she has dug her own grave by trying to force a 1v1 between us.

In post 4356, Dannflor wrote:I can't shake the feeling that SS would be dead by now were he town

Actually it's the opposite. If I'm scum, my buddies would be pushing me as hard as they can to get as much towncred because we'd all know that I'm not coming back from it. Whereas right now, the scum don't all want to get their hands dirty hard pushing me because it will look bad-- hence my hypothesis that there's one scum in the ones hard pushing me (which was you and SD but I think at this point it's just SD) and one in the ones defending me.

Like if I were actually scum the scum would have no qualms about pushing me because it will be justified on my flip. But because I'm going to flip town, the scum are scared to invest so much in what looks like an easy mislynch anyway. They're probably waiting for town to do a lot of the work. So if you're town you can defy them by not voting me :3

Wiisp · Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:55 am

Imagine a world, where Shining, Clever, and Something are all town, can anyone do that? It's actually so doubtful

Wiisp · Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:57 am

In post 4364, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 4362, Wiisp wrote:still think that Chemist is just town here...
For what exactly?

should I be scum reading you?

Chemist1422 · Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:09 am

In post 4370, Wiisp wrote:
In post 4364, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 4362, Wiisp wrote:still think that Chemist is just town here...
For what exactly?
should I be scum reading you?

No, I just find it weird given how you townread me all of D1 then flipped at EoD

Hot Lightning · Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:25 am

In post 4354, Dannflor wrote:Also, I'm having a hard time imagining a town-aligned role that makes a player vanish from the game for a day phase.

I agree with this

-b

Chemist1422 · Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:30 am

In post 4372, Hot Lightning wrote:
In post 4354, Dannflor wrote:Also, I'm having a hard time imagining a town-aligned role that makes a player vanish from the game for a day phase.
I agree with this

-b

It works during the night too

I didn’t realize it removed him from the day as well

lolme

rosterfoster · Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:35 am

SS feels like town to me. I had also missed his claim. Now I know nothing about undertale but it seems like that person is nice?

VOTE: SD

Did you have explicit role info that SS is scum? I’m not finding it.