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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:03 am

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I have different ideas on who the Mason is so it's probably not a very townsided discussion.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1724, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1716, Liger_Zero wrote:Yeah if it wasn't clear btw. I am not a cop. That was a fake claim.
I was going for a gambit to bait a night kill and I really thought Wisdom was town.
There was ample opportunity for you to retract yesterday. Instead of having us entertain things like godfather and lawyer because you wanted to stick to a fakeclaim.
There was, and I really thought about it and I was considering retracting several times
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:06 am

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Liger are you familiar with LAL?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:06 am

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Yes, and I don't care a bit about it.

If you want to lynch me for lying go ahead.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 1728, Liger_Zero wrote:Yes, and I don't care a bit about it.

If you want to lynch me for lying go ahead.
I do. Town would have retracted after the guilty from alch. No way town!you would have thought you could have still been the night kill after giving a false inno that scum knew they hadn't interfered with.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:07 am

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I want to Lynch both of you.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:08 am

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I really think if you analyzed me and Wisdoms interactions yesterday you wouldn't conclude we are partners, because of the way he tried to shift a lynch onto me, but you know I am extremely biased in that.

If you want to lynch me for lying, whatever. Do it.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:09 am

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In post 1729, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1728, Liger_Zero wrote:Yes, and I don't care a bit about it.

If you want to lynch me for lying go ahead.
I do. Town would have retracted after the guilty from alch. No way town!you would have thought you could have still been the night kill after giving a false inno that scum knew they hadn't interfered with.
There was a chance Alchemist was scum, even though it became progressively lower as the day went on, which really gave me less reason not to retract tbh, but then I thought we ruined our chances of lynching scum!wisdom. So, idk. Bad play yeah, not sure what the best way to approach yesterday after that would have been. I think I handled it pretty poorly though.
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:10 am

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You mean both me and liger right rce? URAP is basically IC right now.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:12 am

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After N1 when the mafia shot a protown VT instead of you you just kept up with the gambit????
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:12 am

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You become a direct CC to Alchemist at that point who is claiming a guilty. If wisdom flips town there then your read doesn't matter mechanically. If you believe Alchemist is fake claiming there, meh as town he gets himself killed on a mislynch. He's a better player than that.

So you knowing that you are not a cop, continued to press that alchemist's ACTUAL guilty could possibly be wrong because you had a hunch wisdom was town.

If you're town here I don't mind testing out gambits, it's how you get better, but figure out how to bail when you are impeding on towns wincon.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:12 am

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In post 1723, Liger_Zero wrote:Ohh, Almost50 is FL mason.
Then okay I guess scum are in Hydra TBD and Iconeum.

Maybe Cerberus if I am wrong on one of those.
Why don't you case these guys for us if you're town
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:13 am

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I think its easier to understand when you assume I was town from the beginning of the day and I fake claimed and that my thought process was I didn't want to unveil it in case Alchemist was lying but that Wisdom was acting really really weird for a town player to be doing and that it become increasingly awkward for me to keep the lie but didn't want to just incase he was town and I was fooled by Alchemist. It was really weird situation to be in, idk.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:14 am

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In post 1733, popsofctown wrote:You mean both me and liger right rce? URAP is basically IC right now.
Yes you and Liger. But the more I think about it the more I think iconeum is scum for trying to move invests off of the bp claim and I don't know if Ico/wisdom/pops fits.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:15 am

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By the way if any Town busdriver shenanigans took place with U2 speak now.

I should make the distinction that my result PM for UR referred to him as “your target” and not by name like with wisdom. I’m not going to doubt my clear unless a claim or flip basically says my Cop shot could have been messed with.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:15 am

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In post 1735, RCEnigma wrote:You become a direct CC to Alchemist at that point who is claiming a guilty. If wisdom flips town there then your read doesn't matter mechanically. If you believe Alchemist is fake claiming there, meh as town he gets himself killed on a mislynch. He's a better player than that.

So you knowing that you are not a cop, continued to press that alchemist's ACTUAL guilty could possibly be wrong because you had a hunch wisdom was town.

If you're town here I don't mind testing out gambits, it's how you get better, but figure out how to bail when you are impeding on towns wincon.
Decent criticism.
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:16 am

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VOTE: Liger

This isn't a policy LAL ftr. Wisdom claimed he would be conftown on D2 because of the investigatives on him, and Liger happens to fakeclaim an inno the next day? I don't buy it.

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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:16 am

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In post 1737, Liger_Zero wrote:I think its easier to understand when you assume I was town from the beginning of the day and I fake claimed and that my thought process was I didn't want to unveil it in case Alchemist was lying but that Wisdom was acting really really weird for a town player to be doing and that it become increasingly awkward for me to keep the lie but didn't want to just incase he was town and I was fooled by Alchemist. It was really weird situation to be in, idk.
Even if you retract there, scum!Alchemist is claiming a red on town!wisdom. Whom is going to be lynched regardless with Alchemist following behind.
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:17 am

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I think Shiro is scum too. Wisdom awkwardly hopped off their wagon on D1 to join the chennis wagon.

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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 1742, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1737, Liger_Zero wrote:I think its easier to understand when you assume I was town from the beginning of the day and I fake claimed and that my thought process was I didn't want to unveil it in case Alchemist was lying but that Wisdom was acting really really weird for a town player to be doing and that it become increasingly awkward for me to keep the lie but didn't want to just incase he was town and I was fooled by Alchemist. It was really weird situation to be in, idk.
Even if you retract there, scum!Alchemist is claiming a red on town!wisdom. Whom is going to be lynched regardless with Alchemist following behind.
I think focus turns on me enough to the point where I get lynched either yesterday or today tbh. I mean maybe that's me justifying it or something but I think I was wrapped in a lot of sunk costs at that point.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 1743, Hydra TBD wrote:I think Shiro is scum too. Wisdom awkwardly hopped off their wagon on D1 to join the chennis wagon.

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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:18 am

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I'll say I really dropped the ball this game now all I have are my reads.

But gun to my head, I would aim it at Ico.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:19 am

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In post 1743, Hydra TBD wrote:I think Shiro is scum too. Wisdom awkwardly hopped off their wagon on D1 to join the chennis wagon.

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Shiro’s play with Wisdom and Liger makes me think they can’t be scum with either of them.
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:20 am

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In post 1739, Alchemist21 wrote:By the way if any Town busdriver shenanigans took place with U2 speak now.

I should make the distinction that my result PM for UR referred to him as “your target” and not by name like with wisdom. I’m not going to doubt my clear unless a claim or flip basically says my Cop shot could have been messed with.
You should ask the mod to clarify, the results message shouldn't change like that.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:20 am

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Shiro wasn't going to gain much more steam while the vocal townies were pushing for Chenn, that's an easy switch.

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