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Vote Count 1.21

With 11 alive, it is 6 to Lynch or No Lynch!

TemporalLich (4): Flubbernugget, maadneet, Eyes without a face, rosterfoster,
Eyes without a face (3): TemporalLich, awestfie, Saudade
themilkcartonkid (2): High Risk Gamble, ofrhz
ejjinami (1): Flavor Leaf,
High Risk Gamble (0):
Flubbernugget (0):
Flavor Leaf (0):
awestfie (0):
rosterfoster (0):
ofrhz (0):
Saudade (0):

Not Voting (1): ejjinami

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-03 18:00:00)

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[ejjinami]

I take back what I said about awe being a weak player
I still don’t think they’re all that townie though


And I still fucking hate milk
I’d throw a shitty pun, but oh well

Yeah, I tried reading the whole game to get caught up and it's a snoozefest. I could see eyes being scum, but like I said, everything that is scummy about them is just as often done by town. TL is much more scummy. They're too nice. They're trying to be too helpful. I do hard townread awestfie and I'm more feeling saudade

I agree with the read and I think TL’s attitude should be more likely to come from scum than eyes, but I also hate a lot of milk’s posts and him agreeing with me so much makes me nervous.
Idk if he would be bussing that hard as scum
He might, but I think it’s highly likely that I’m also wrong in my reads somewhere

[ejjinami]

[roster, fumuki/flavor]

[saudade]

[eyes, flubb]

[HRG, ofr, awes]

[]

[temporal, milk]

where I'm at rn
funnily, I have too many TRs, am tinfoiling on nearly all of them, but at the same time I'm confident in my SRs, yet I think they don't work well as a team
idk if I'm just fcking lost or what

but I'm strongly SRing both TL and milk
milk for the stuff I said in one of my previous posts
and TL for the exact same reasons milk mentioned in his posts, which again, is driving me nuts
I don't like a lot of TL's posts and I really don't like his vote on Eyes
all of his posts regarding that feel like he's just trying to save his own ass, which I REALLY don't feel he should be doing as town
and he wrote a few posts, which were tonally awful

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

[ejjinami]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

1051 with a side of 1041, I think.

1040 is a subtle shade of awest so the noncommitalness really hits me hard.

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: ejjinami

Dumb

[Eyes without a face]

Well, excuse me. I'm doing the best I can.

*sulks*

I think you can do better, like eventually change maadnet's vote on TL with themilkcartonkid?

[Eyes without a face]

I really want Eyes (the player, not the organs).

You need the organs more if you're town in this game.

[TemporalLich]

I really want Eyes (the player, not the organs).

You need the organs more if you're town in this game.

I'm glad I switched my vote off of you.

Damn, that was

perfect

.

[Eyes without a face]

Be warned that I am L-1 so don't hammer me outside of the tent.

UNVOTE:

Just to give the town more time to discuss.

@Ejji: I am not sure I want to go back and look for what exactly triggered me to say this, but -generally- I think it's bad to say things like "this is SvS" before one of the two is flipped. Once flipped (if town) you have basically argued against your case on the other.

[ejjinami]

VOTE: ejjinami

I am fairly sure you are scum with Awest.

You defend her but refuse to townread her.

where exactly was I defending her?

1051 with a side of 1041, I think.

1040 is a subtle shade of awest so the noncommitalness really hits me hard.

I guess you could read it that way, lol
1051 is NAI. I said that awe is a bad player, which was very clearly wrong, so I corrected myself. Sure, you could debate if I’d do it more likely as SvS, TvT, or whatever, but honestly, what’s the point.
1041 is fair.
And how exactly is 1040 noncommitalness.

I’d be glad if you answered my questions btw, especially those about your votes. You answered some of them and SR me for it later, so it’s p clear that you’ve already read them.
And actually, comment on my read on you please. 1036 1040 1052

[ejjinami]

@Ejji: I am not sure I want to go back and look for what exactly triggered me to say this, but -generally- I think it's bad to say things like "this is SvS" before one of the two is flipped. Once flipped (if town) you have basically argued against your case on the other.

It's bad because it provides scum an easy way to vote multiple townies in a row, not because it's a bad way to read them. I am (usually) careful with the way I do that and (for the most part) I do wait with acting on the read till after I see a flip.
Me posting stuff like that rn is mostly just so that I don't forget about it later, because I find finding interactions more difficult later on.

Of course, you will see me reading people pre-flip based on that sometimes, like, if multiple people I think are scummy don't feel like SvS with someone or sth like that, but if you don't like it, please address the individual reads instead of the whole method. I often find it easier to correctly read players that way, especially those who can't be tone-read, so I'm not really tempted to stop it.

[TemporalLich]

I’d be glad if you answered my questions btw, especially those about your votes. You answered some of them and SR me for it later, so it’s p clear that you’ve already read them.
And actually, comment on my read on you please. 1036 1040 1052

The vote in 621 needs 611 for context. I townread Saudade so naturally Eyes was scum.

Already answered the question in 1041 with 1043.

Already answered the question in 1054 with 1055.

Don't see any other questions posed at me.

I can't decide if your thought process in doing my read is towny or scummy.

[ejjinami]

Ok, I'll look at it when I come back home
gtg rn

[awestfie]

[roster, fumuki/flavor]
[saudade]
[eyes, flubb]
[HRG, ofr, awes]
[]
[temporal, milk]

How you gonna have someone who's done nothing but be reactive this entire game higher than me?

You guys are really starting to upset me.

[awestfie]

Eyes' most recent 3 posts are more empty than my life.

[rosterfoster]

IDK there is some content to them. I just don’t feel he’s trying so hard to set up mislynches if he gets lynched.

I imagine it’s pretty hard for his posts to be fuller than your life though <3

[awestfie]

Be warned that I am L-1 so don't hammer me outside of the tent.

UNVOTE:

Just to give the town more time to discuss.

He wasn't at L-1 anymore.

[awestfie]

IDK there is some content to them. I just don’t feel he’s trying so hard to set up mislynches if he gets lynched.

Sure, but there was very little content in them.

I agree, he's not trying hard to set up mislynches, but he's also not trying hard to do anything other than react to other people. Effort isn't AI, but if all you're going to do is be reactive, I'm going to vote you 10 out of 10 times.

[awestfie]

FWIW, TL's reasoning and reads are still making me cringe like no other.

[themilkcartonkid]

What is this sr on awest? Also, totally did not see that post from eyes where they threatened to self vote... that's pretty scummy...

[rosterfoster]

You mean Lich? I didn’t see that from eyes.

I do agree that kind of position is generally scummy unless there’s a decent reason (and I don’t think there is in this setup).

[themilkcartonkid]

I could be wrong tho lets see what he has to say in his defense

I don't see a case for me to defend. We are blindly lynching someone and it could very well be me.
Someone told me self-voting is bad play regardless. Otherwise I would have voted myself to help you all see the light. My fear is I will always be a lynch candidate for as long as I'm alive and people are even more inclined to hunt for my partners without even seeing my flip. That's BAD PLAY!

(Written just after a few shitposts.)
Nothing in that post actually makes sense to me
Saying that by self-voting you would be helping the other players “see the light” is essentially a scum-claim and even as a joke it feels disgusting. It doesn’t even feel like a “joke” though, which I don’t know what to think about.
Who exactly was reading you based on pre-flip associations and is so “BAD”?

This post feels like you just wrote a bunch of random bullshit without actually thinking or reading the game. Elaborate on it.

I mean, it's not bad for scum. It gives them room to flip their reads on whomever they like upon my flip. It's bad for town because once I flip green they can't just say "Oops. Wrong lynch but X is still scum". Instead they maybe forced to drop a genuine scum read on someone who is indeed scum just because they already decided they were of the same alignment I am.

Again, who are you talking about?
I’ll eat my own hat if the stuff you wrote is actually related to the game. It feels like you’re just repeating sth someone said for whatever reason and I don’t see the freaking point of doing that.

Fun idea: At the beginning of the game you said that you’re much more serious and concerned about your image as scum. Now it feels like you’re just trying to shitpost, possibly to appear like you’re not concerned about your lynch.
Convince me otherwise.

[rosterfoster]

Oh he did. That makes two of them threatening to self-vote without actually doing it.