Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[rosterfoster]

VOTE: Rightodude

I should’ve pushed this more D1

[Fuscosco]

yea

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 2.2 (5/7/19)

Latrodectus [L-6]

TTTT [L-3]

Latrodectus, Fuscosco, Rainbow Reads

Mastina [L-5]

TTTT

Rainbow Reads [L-6]

Time Devil [L-5]

Firebringer

Rightodude [L-5]

Rosterfoster

Rosterfoster [L-6]

Firebringer [L-3]

Mastina, Time Devil, Rightodude

Yahmose [L-6]

Fuscosco [L-6]

Something_Smart [L-6]

No Lynch [L-6]

Not Voting [2]

Yahmose, Something_Smart

Deadline is 5pm on Sunday 5/19. That is in (expired on 2019-05-19 17:00:00).

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LAs:
It's my finals week, so there's a chance (especially towards the end of the week) that I'll be somewhat MIA.

[Fuscosco]

ROD is a good vote too.

[mastina]

are u guys seriously gonna lynch the back up cop? Today? Really? before I get results?

I want to.
However, I recognize there is a much better play to make:

VOTE: rightodude.
No knowledge of THE FUTURE necessary to see why the slot's SCUM.

[mastina]

A lot of the sketchy slots are on the Mephistophanes lynchwagon; most likely two of these are scum since they're all also really clustered together right in the middle-end of the wagon.

Why can't it be all three?

If it helps on the ORIGINAL Mephistophanes mislynch it WASN'T all of those names.

Scum are also likely trying to coast throughout the game based on the general activity of the game and how little attention people have been getting for their amount of activity, and it's relatively low risk to help RC push through his wagon partially because the wagon composition is normally fairly low information when it's RC-led, and partially because there's more risk in outright disobeying RC and potentially drawing his ire (and attention, which the gamestate is helping them avoid).

Nobody fits the description of "trying to coast" better than rightodude. Close second, Rainbow Reads. The others on the wagon have done content, which I admit does include even Firebringer.

so TTTT is the only slot left that has good odds of flipping scum outside of the wagon.

And WHEN he DOESN'T, what then? TRUST ME, this is a MISTAKE.

[mastina]

ftr I scumread rightodude more than TTTT atm but I don't think a rightodude scumflip really helps town

NORMALLY, I would agree with you, on information > scumflip. But ORIGINALLY, we lost in large part due to that mindset. So THIS TIME, let's not repeat the MISTAKES we made and instead focus on LYNCHING SCUM.

[mastina]

Mephistophanes 39 [L-4]

Mastina, Time Devil, Yahmose

Rightodude [L-2]

Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Latrodectus, Light_Ganski

Rightodude [L-3]

Rosterfoster, TTTT, Firebringer, Rainbow Reads

Latrodectus, ORIGINALLY, I failed to ask you this: What do you make of the D1 wagon on rightodude, as you--like me--see him as suspect?

Did you come to the same conclusion I did?

(My conclusion has NOT CHANGED from scum having THOUGHT that he was obvscum and bussing him, with both buddies present on the wagon at least at

some

point in time.)

[mastina]

you saying Mephistophanes was always town seems like you're trying to cover up your mistakes

There are no MISTAKES on MY end, but on YOUR end there are. My posts were UNAMBIGUOUS in NOT being EXPLICIT. I NEVER once SAID Mephistophanes was scum. Every time, I SAID to VOTE them; I never SAID to LYNCH them.

I also SAID when UNVOTING them in the VERY POST you thought was a contradiction THIS VERY THING.

[Latrodectus]

To be more relevant to the slot I dont have a single read either way on - Thats a weakish reason to TR or SR somebody.

considering Yahmose's general skill level, that's actually a lot more convincing of a reason than it would be for others

[Latrodectus]

A lot of the sketchy slots are on the Mephistophanes lynchwagon; most likely two of these are scum since they're all also really clustered together right in the middle-end of the wagon.

Why can't it be all three?

If it helps on the ORIGINAL Mephistophanes mislynch it WASN'T all of those names.

Scum are also likely trying to coast throughout the game based on the general activity of the game and how little attention people have been getting for their amount of activity, and it's relatively low risk to help RC push through his wagon partially because the wagon composition is normally fairly low information when it's RC-led, and partially because there's more risk in outright disobeying RC and potentially drawing his ire (and attention, which the gamestate is helping them avoid).

Nobody fits the description of "trying to coast" better than rightodude. Close second, Rainbow Reads. The others on the wagon have done content, which I admit does include even Firebringer.

so TTTT is the only slot left that has good odds of flipping scum outside of the wagon.

And WHEN he DOESN'T, what then? TRUST ME, this is a MISTAKE.

all three being on is the second most likely possibility, yes.

that's one of the reasons I want to flip TTTT today rather than lynch on the wagon, it's a slot that is likely to be scum as well as gives the extra info on whether there really is three scum on the wagon or not; flipping a scum on the wagon doesn't give that same level of information and I don't think any other slot outside the mephisto wagon has good odds of being scum outside of really bizarre circumstances.

[Latrodectus]

ftr I scumread rightodude more than TTTT atm but I don't think a rightodude scumflip really helps town

NORMALLY, I would agree with you, on information > scumflip. But ORIGINALLY, we lost in large part due to that mindset. So THIS TIME, let's not repeat the MISTAKES we made and instead focus on LYNCHING SCUM.

um

what

TTTT is my second strongest scumread

[Latrodectus]

Mephistophanes 39 [L-4]

Mastina, Time Devil, Yahmose

Rightodude [L-2]

Rosterfoster, TTTT, Ceejayvinoya, Latrodectus, Light_Ganski

Rightodude [L-3]

Rosterfoster, TTTT, Firebringer, Rainbow Reads

Latrodectus, ORIGINALLY, I failed to ask you this: What do you make of the D1 wagon on rightodude, as you--like me--see him as suspect?

Did you come to the same conclusion I did?

(My conclusion has NOT CHANGED from scum having THOUGHT that he was obvscum and bussing him, with both buddies present on the wagon at least at

some

point in time.)

yeah there's very good odds scum were bussing righto; that actually increases Rainbow Reads' scum equity for the vote location when you account for the Mastina/Latrodectus/Mephistophanes 39 wagon on Light_Ganski at the time, there's a good chunk of towncred to be gained from that

but the other thing it also shows is that if scum have any PRs, it's probably not on rightodude.

or, even if rightodude IS a PR, the towncred gain and gamestate shift from him flipping is worth more than having that PR

[Latrodectus]

mmmmmmmm

actually I don't think Roster + TTTT can be scum together, I think it's really dissonant for both of them to park on their scumpartner for so long while other wagons are forming and gaining momentum (read: light_ganski) and yet not really do anything the entire time.

that's the sort of play that just looks so awful and I don't think there's such a lack of skill in that scumteam that they'd do something that ridiculous while not trying to push that wagon through entirely.

[Firebringer]

How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?

[Latrodectus]

what are your reads on TTTT and rightodude

[Fuscosco]

How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?

Who is your second choice? That isnt mastina or TD or yourself

[Firebringer]

what are your reads on TTTT and rightodude

TTTT I had as town but the more he remains lull in activity the more I question it.

Rightodude isn't reading the game so got nothing on that.

[rosterfoster]

How do we get a lynch today? I am not getting my preferred lynch because u guys just think TD is some village idiot. So what we doing?

Have you read any of Lich's games. He's exactly the person I choose to push as scum because he's so illogical.

Not reading the game

is

scummy.

[TTTT]

TTTT I had as town but the more he remains lull in activity the more I question it.

I'll vote and talk if it suits me
but I'm not gonna expend much energy on this game
if you're thinking you might know why I'm acting differently recently
your thinking is probably correct

[TTTT]

@Latro
if you could sign your posts it'd be helpful

[Something_Smart]

Not reading the game

is

scummy.

[citation needed]

[rosterfoster]

I saw someone said it once. I believe them.

[rosterfoster]

I also don't read the game as scum, so y'know.

[Something_Smart]

It depends if the gamestate is more conducive to town disengagement than scum disengagement.

I'd say right now it's more conducive to town disengagement, but I might be biased because I'm pretty disengaged.