Mini Normal 2075 - Game Over

[Rainn]

wait this can't begin yet

i've not collected enough gifs to shitpost

[Rainn]

oh well

can't be helped

VOTE: bambi jay

[Rainn]

Pedit: Nani.

was too busy in the wolf chat and missed the first post

teh wolfz confirmed

[Rainn]

nani

it's a breadcrumb to future claim to be aligned with the wolf faction

[Rainn]

we could always try to have a page 2 lynch here

[Rainn]

VOTE: Rainn

I can't stand the rain...

(jk you seem cool)

Spoiler:

hi

i see your point but i love the rain though

am i cool enough for you to hammer bambi already btw?

i have a guilty there

[Rainn]

L-1!

we can do it guys!

[Rainn]

UNVOTE:

-1

[Rainn]

Holy fuck you guys really almost did that.

[Rainn]

page 2 tl;dr

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

We don't listen to an Alt from Mexico City in these parts.

[Rainn]

i'm not an alt btw?

i came from calipunk forum (spanish), but it got closed down

i've read a fair bit of games here though

i thought it would be /notcool to play in the newbie queue

[Rainn]

you just messed up my

waganomics

man

[Rainn]

i'm not a new player

i've one year of mafia experience in my home site

i'm an honorary shitposter as well and used to shitpost through all the forum boards

[Rainn]

i'm not a new player

i've one year of mafia experience in my home site

i'm an honorary shitposter as well and used to shitpost through all the forum boards

Why'd you come here then?

my homesite closed down

[Rainn]

The Spanish "newbie" will be questioned now. Did you read my previous games and THAT is why you voted me?

yes

i expected you to do crazy shit and sound scummy so i would use what you call around here "slayer gambit" but it didn't work because you're weirdly stiff

right now i'm genuinely wolf leaning you

[Rainn]

i'm not reading the game paying attention right now though to be fair

i mostly shitpost until mid day 1 and then come up with a good PoE

[Rainn]

alch i feel like i'd be a very easy push for scum you to do here tbh which worries me

I could have either stayed on Jay or pushed Rain if I wanted an easy push.

i'm an activator innocent child though

/dab

[Rainn]

here's a TMI read:

insomnia locktownish

[Rainn]

why do you think Rain would be an easy push?

i'm an anime girl

our species is frail

[Rainn]

Rain, which game of mine did you read? That heavily influences which way I'm reading you ATM.

i read half of the treestump (i think this was the name)

and one marathon game since i got interested in those because this month is going to have a run

bambi is prob town btw

wolf!bambi would try to shake off the pressure by shitposting i think

not entirely sure though

[Rainn]

here's a TMI read:

insomnia locktownish

yeah im reversing towards town insomnia too. This is a bit too... what's the word... coherent for scum insomnia

are you wolf here for real?

when this is wolf!insomnia ever?

maybe he is wolf and will show it later in game, but right now he is solid town?

[Rainn]

alch/mon/roster/ceejay has one wolf at least imo

[Rainn]

I recommend reading my Train game

oh yeah

express something

that was exactly the one

you were more shitposty in the first pages if i remember right though

but i don't think this is wolf you anymore

[Rainn]

I recommend reading my Train game

Sure you're not an alt?

yes

[url=viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78257]
And Ceejay hasn't posted yet Rain?

poe

[Rainn]

urap, insomnia, sky

are you mutually town reading each other?

[Rainn]

poe

so you're TRing me??? why??

do you want me to change my mind?

i've already weakened a lot my good feelings on you with this post

a lot.

[Rainn]

tone had an bit of overreaction on it

i imagine town!sky would be more casual about it

[Rainn]

tone had an bit of overreaction on it

i imagine town!sky would be more casual about it

you think town!sky would be more casual about questioning a town read on them? Is this a general read or a meta read specific to sky?

both

[Rainn]

insomnia is genuine strong town read

urap less

bamby even less

sky even less than bamby or urap

i don't PoE this early but these past 8 pages seems to have lots of AI content so here i am

[Rainn]

tone had an bit of overreaction on it

i imagine town!sky would be more casual about it

you think town!sky would be more casual about questioning a town read on them? Is this a general read or a meta read specific to sky?

both

hmm. i think it's the opposite, generally speaking

can you explain the meta aspect with a little more depth?

it's not something reliable yet

more of a gut with some meta mixed

[Rainn]

tone had an bit of overreaction on it

i imagine town!sky would be more casual about it

you think im overreacting??????

ok you're officially town

[Rainn]

i'm staring in my pc screen

and can't decide who between alch and mon is wolfier

[Rainn]

Vote Count 1.2

skygazer (2) ~

alchemist21, bambi jay

lil uzi vert (1) ~

bambi jay

deadline:

(expired on 2019-05-18 23:59:59)

I believe this proves I have double vote powers and am automatically town. Haters gonna hate.

i called it before it was cool.

[Rainn]

i'm staring in my pc screen

and can't decide who between alch and mon is wolfier

I'll bite.

Why?

what would you be doing different here as wolf in your pov?

[Rainn]

btw it's not impossible that insomnia is purposely trying to play around urap by acting this way

but later we'll see

i'm fine with my poe right now

[Rainn]

Shoot : Bambi Jay

After votes reset, we push urap

stop doing bad gambits

btw if you genuinely shot it i'm a bit baffled even if he flips wolf?

[Rainn]

~lazy PoE~

town
insomnia, sky?

likely town
urap, bamby??

FoS
alch?, mon

likely wolf

note 1: the amount of "?" is equal to the amount of doubt i have in the read
note 2: anyone not listed is null

[Rainn]

now back to shitposting

[Rainn]

re:reading bamby's iso and

i can move bamby back to null i guess

[Rainn]

ceejay prob locktown

[Rainn]

~lazy PoE~

town
insomnia, sky?, ceejay

likely town
urap

FoS
alch??, mon

likely wolf

------------------------
note 1: the amount of "?" is equal to the amount of doubt i have in the read
note 2: anyone not listed is null

[Rainn]

VOTE: montosh

[Rainn]

insomnia, sky, ceejay, urap

i want you to interact with me until you town read me because i want this to be the town block in the game that i'll work with

if there is a wolf between the above players it's prob only one and later we can reevaluate

[Rainn]

roster engage me

why

[Rainn]

VOTE: roster

[Rainn]

insomnia, sky, ceejay, urap

i want you to interact with me until you town read me because i want this to be the town block in the game that i'll work with

if there is a wolf between the above players it's prob only one and later we can reevaluate

sure, why is cj town?

i don't want to say the exact reason because wolves are simply going to begin to do what i say i town read/wolf read (note that mon only starts to "gamesolve" when you call her out).

but in a more vague way, i would say his entire ISO doesn't seem like wolf!ceejay. not even a single post i would expect him to do as wolf was done.

to be honest i know i said for you to engage me but i'm still trying to figure out how to deal with this, because i'm someone that likes to hold their cards close to their hands until i want to go full steam, but i know i need to create a kind of townblock to make our job easier here. i don't to take hundreds of pages to get a single lynch/flip.

[Rainn]

In post 237, ceejayvinoya wrote:
Oh wow wtf I thought this game just started and there's only one page and I voted Montosh off reading page 1



TMI. Also lies.

what is ''TMI'' there?

TMI > too much info?

[Rainn]

/shrug

it's not about meta it's about personality imo

[Rainn]

roster lockwolf though

[Rainn]

no but how they approach the game/thread changes

[Rainn]

we have at maximum 3 lynches so

roster > mon > lil uzi vet

let's go?

[Rainn]

He’s not approached the game at all so far.

I think I know how you play though so I’m not worried.

it's ok you're lockwolf and we're just lynching you today

[Rainn]

are you town reading me?

because you're 100% wolf for me and i'm going to tunnel you the rest of the day phase

[Rainn]

roster is prob town

very weak read though

[Rainn]

[alch, mon, lil uzi vet]

[Rainn]

considering the newbie game urap2 brought up, i'm town reading ceejay less

but still town reading

doubt i'm going to vote there

[Rainn]

I was more talking about money tbh

i see

maybe some pocket money would be fine

[Rainn]

tbh i'm wolf reading you for real this time

not strong but...

[Rainn]

Most of the job of town is to pocket other town players.

It makes us a good team.

i see

i want to lynch inside my poe though, would you please buss?

[Rainn]

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Rainn you’re the best <3

thanks

but...

[roster, alch, mon, lil uzi vet]

[Rainn]

But you should vote him so you don’t feel bad.

[alch, mon, lil uzi vet]

stop messing my reads

[Rainn]

he can flip wolf yes

but i don't think it's likely he does

i'm always scared to call players lynchbait, but i've correctly identified quite a few lynchbaites in unspoilered games i read, examples being fuscosco, chennisden and sashaddin.

i don't feel ceejay being wolf here at all.

[Rainn]

ceejay wagon tl;dr

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

lynch pool

[mon, lil uzi vert, bambi, alch, roster]

more or less in that lynch order

i would be /fine with getting a flip already but since i know it's not happening i'm going to lurk it out

[Rainn]

~lazy PoE~

town
insomnia, sky??, ceejay?

likely town
urap

FoS
alch???, bambi??, lil uzi vet

likely wolf
mon
------------------------
note 1: the amount of "?" is equal to the amount of doubt i have in the read
note 2: anyone not listed is null

[Rainn]

VOTE: mon

[Rainn]

VOTE: montosh

[Rainn]

why you're not scum trying to buddy them?

Spoiler:

And what's all this saying scum!CJ won't do this or that? If you're a new player to this site like you claim then you shouldn't have this kind of meta here. I don't care who you're an

alt

of

but if you are please tell us you are

because it's affecting how I read you.

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Him. And frankly that had more to do with keeping up with the speed of the game then anything else but okay.

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

I think it's kinda ridiculous not to explain at least a little why you townread someone.

mid day 1

[Rainn]

Bambi you’re town

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

[mon, lil uzi vert, bambi, alch, roster]

Super Scum

[Rainn]

You posted an explosion waifu for me. My 2 favorite things. Gracias.

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Unfortantely I'll have to settle in following Rain instead

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Oh wow wtf I thought this game just started and there's only one page and I voted Montosh off reading page 1

towny

what if I'm already TRing you?

[Rainn]

Sky I’m disappointed in you

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

don't like luv's bambi vote

montosh has high scum equity for avoiding the whole bambi thing and then the me/urap thing in the first few pages

Spoiler: warn lots of gif

[Rainn]

VOTE: sky

[Rainn]

rainn im pretty sure I've ID'd you unless you're legitimately not an alt

would the phrase yin and yang mean anything to you?

no, it wouldn't i don't care about that kind of thing

i'm also a legit "newbie" btw

[Rainn]

sky you're reaching confwolf levels right now and i'm not joking or trying reactions

[Rainn]

+ wolf posting

[Rainn]

sky what's your general view in the game so far?

[Rainn]

my view is i should probably stop making meta reads on alt assumptions

i think that this gamestate hasn't really settled down enough to give any gamestate reads if that's what you're asking? but a safe bet would be one scum in the low-posters and one scum in the high-posters

who is the highest wolf equity slot for you?

[Rainn]

sky engage me i'm trying to sort you fast and end this day fast

who is the highest wolf equity slot for you?

[Rainn]

and you're not voting anyone now because...?

[Rainn]

you town read me and had made comments suggesting that you disliked both mon/lil uzi

you have not voted anyone though

[Rainn]

you did put someone in L-1 and seemed to like wagons but even though you agreed that mon has high wolf equity you didn't try to wagon it with us

[Rainn]

Throwing your vote around so easily makes it useless, Ranin.

sorry i don't need this kind of advice

and i think you're very very wrong

votes are simply votes

pressure is engaging players

[Rainn]

bad answer

at least vote someone

[Rainn]

l-2

[Rainn]

VOTE: mom

if it flips green we're lynching sky next

[Rainn]

right?

VOTE: sky

[Rainn]

[Rainn]

god i wish you were the player i thought you were

do you dislike me? :/

[Rainn]

VOTE: montosh

true l-2

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

god i wish you were the player i thought you were

do you dislike me? :/

again, im juggling a lot of things rn and have the ocd that compells me to not want to walk away from shit even though ive been online nonstop since noon so im just stressed

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Bambi jay is so under the radar right now.

VOTE: montosh

[Rainn]

town
insomnia, ceejay

likely town
urap, sky???

fos
uzi vet, alch, bambi

likely wolf
montosh

[Rainn]

Vote Count 1.4

montosh (1) ~

u r a person 2, bambi jay, skygazer, rainn (L-2)

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

sky you're reaching confwolf levels right now and i'm not joking or trying reactions

I feel like I'm asking this a lot


..Why?

you town read me and had made comments suggesting that you disliked both mon/lil uzi

you have not voted anyone though

you did put someone in L-1 and seemed to like wagons but even though you agreed that mon has high wolf equity you didn't try to wagon it with us

[Rainn]

I can tell montosh flips town just from that disgusting wagon.

lynch pool

[mon, lil uzi vert,

bambi,

alch, roster]

more or less in that lynch order

[Rainn]

Has anyone given a reason for Mon?

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

lynch order

[Rainn]

I'm too lazy to read the mon case if there's one, I just know he flips town, the wagon composition is disgusting as hell

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

I'm wondering if you've evolved to using reverse psychology to stay off mislynches as scum rn

[Rainn]

*sigh*

and I was enjoying being an anime girl...

[Rainn]

I suddenly felt weird though

I can't have an avatar/personality too cute after all, it's fun in the begin but it makes me depressed later.

As of now I'm town reading Urap2, Sky, Ceejay and...somewhat less insomnia.

insomnia is the kind of player that could try to play around his own meta here and that might explain a lot of his behavior that's being a bit too excessive even considering his town metric.

[Rainn]

Insomnia you can certainly do better that you're doing right now if you're town

you're not engaging bambi, you're simply derp tunneling it and when bambi tried to engage you a few pages ago you dismissed him. You're not actively casing or pushing him either, you're basically only coming to the thread to complain about it.

It's excessive and I'm getting suspicious that it's maybe fabricated.

[Rainn]

I'm going to apply the same thing to you roster.

I've seen lots of Ceejay's games, he is a bit more stiff as wolf and although you can try to argue that with the self-vote he was trying to play cool because of "the pressure", notice how quickly he actually begins to focus in the game again. Ceejay is very very doubtfully a wolf, and if you simply keep derp tunneling it instead of engaging us or him with some more elaborated push, you're going to be my target for a first lynch today honestly.

I don't want anyone here hiding behind a derp wolf read.

[Rainn]

VOTE: insomnia

[Rainn]

You can get suspicious all you want, the fact that you’re taking someone’s side given that they refuse to answer to questions is stupid.

They haven't refused to answer questions.

He even asked after the day vig crap what "hot questions" you wanted to ask him.

Instead of answering you dismissed it.

You don't even try to engage him or case him plausibly.

[Rainn]

I have asked him a question and then he said “I’m only going to answer if you say Please mistress bambi” or some shit like that

You took it seriously though?

You didn't even try to ask him about it?

What's up with you this game?

[Rainn]

I’m not going to do any ISOs unless you say “Please daddy insomnia”

In that case we're lynching you because I think you're simply trying to copy your "town meta" because Urap2 is here

[Rainn]

I'm fine with being called Rainn.

[Rainn]

I’m not going to do any ISOs unless you say “Please daddy insomnia”

In that case we're lynching you because I think you're simply trying to copy your "town meta" because Urap2 is here

So if I don’t oblige I get lynched.

If Bambi doesn’t oblige it’s pro-town behavior.

Kek this lobby

Oblige to what?

Simply ask him whatever you want and if he doesn't answer the pressure is going to turn to him.

You've not even attempted to ask it though.

[Rainn]

You basically attempted and instead of bringing it up again you left it in the vague "answer the question" that was back there in the first pages

same shit imo

If I want something answered no matter what, I keep bringing it up

[Rainn]

Ok, now I'll be the babysitter/mediator even though I was playing purposely trying to avoid this:

Bambi, the question is, why did you say that Urap2 didn't seem the kind of player to hop off his wolf buddy that early?

Now about Roster, what are you trying to accomplish pushing Ceejay that way?

[Rainn]

Good luck with that wagon on me

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

If it makes you feel better the Bambi stuff isn’t really why I’m scumreading you and I get that Jay is annoying to most people.

Why are you wolf reading him in that case?

[Rainn]

UNVOTE: insomnia

I'll give the space for a town!insomnia to begin doing something other than complain for now, I expected wolf!him to react a bit different to this push, but maybe he is in a lol wolf expansion so I'm keeping my eye on him.

Back to the original wagon.

VOTE: Montosh

[Rainn]

I expected him to do more than swear the lobby and walk away, again, as I said, I'm expecting him to begin to be more willing to cooperate here instead of only complaining when he comes back.

I would be somewhat fine to move my vote back to him if he keeps acting this way.

[Rainn]

By the way one of the reasons that I was playing minimalistic before is because I only wanted to push my wolf reads when it was later in the day, since if I pushed early (like I did), the wagon would waver away because of someone doing something silly (possibly town).

Basically what's happening right now.

[Rainn]

My Montosh wagon disappeared...

[Rainn]

There you go insomnia, question answered.

Can you give us a tl;dr again of your reasons to wolf read Bambi now and we go from there?

It's even a way easier way to convince us to vote Bambi than popping up and saying "your wagon is horrible".

[Rainn]

tbh forget me taking this seriously

back to gif posting and poe lists

[Rainn]

so yeah at this point it's not helping town much.

i like mysteries and puzzles, and that's why i got interested in mafia, and i certainly can be obvtown and keep town cohesion more or less if i try, but everytime i do it's always frustating, bothersome and fairly tiring

the last pages/game start i was in a better mood so i tried to be more actively pro-town and sort slots but it's always the same shitty nonsense conflicts and i'm kinda giving up for real

i made this alt (yes, of course this is an alt, i was only trolling back there) to be more ~lazy~ and less tryhard, but almost got back into tryharding.

i'll be clear here, i'll try to advance my wincon by posting my reads and unhappily that's more or less all i can give. however i don't particularly care if town mislynch or not, i'm only here more or less to solve the game and if no one wants to sheep me it's /fine by me. and that

is

playing to my wincon before anyone bring that rule up, it's just my playstyle in a meme alt.

that said i'll still react to posts with gifs/quotes so you'll be able to sort me just fine probably.

i may break my gif posting rule in LyLo or in equal important moments as well btw. when i feel there's a

real

need to say something straightly.

now, officially back to gif posting.

btw it's fairly obvious who i am but if you know it don't publicly out it, if you want, after the game ends you can pm me or send your guess in site chat for me to /confirm. only one guess though.

[Rainn]

@rainn we've played together, right?
I won't out or guess

yes

[Rainn]

I just wanted to know why you were saying you weren't an alt when you obviously were. Trolling is an answer but I'm finding it tough to separate your trolling posts from "serious" posts.

my poe lists are always serious if anything

nice =)

Always glad to see you in a list

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

@Rainn well I don't know most of the people on site so I doubt it'd help me much. I just wanted to know why you were saying you weren't an alt when you obviously were. Trolling is an answer but I'm finding it tough to separate your trolling posts from "serious" posts.

Alt or not I don’t think it was that hard to see Rain’s serious posts, at least regarding their reads.

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

I only followed Rain because they were an anime girl. I has been bamboozled.

Spoiler:

Oh, quick note, I will automatically hammer Insomnia if he's at L-1, but I'm not gonna be moving my vote on him until then. So let's settle the Myself/Insom debacle first.

Spoiler:

VOTE: bambi

[Rainn]

casual observer ego post.

hello

Spoiler:

[Rainn]

Oh what did I do wrong now.

I will automatically hammer Insomnia if he's at L-1

[Rainn]

tl;dr

Spoiler:

Spoiler: bambi only

[Rainn]

he's at L-1 a vote early.

[Rainn]

VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi

[Rainn]

VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi
VOTE: bambi

Vote Count 1.5

bambi jay (7) ~

montosh, lil uzi vert, insomnia, rainn, rainn, rainn, rainn (lynch)

Bambi was lynched day 1. He was a

Mafia Tactical Smart Sudden Hammer Kind of Suspiciously Opportunist Goon.

[Rainn]

I'm a spiteful person, fair warning.

[Rainn]

VOTE: Insomnia

Better, Rain?

Spoiler: no

[Rainn]

Well then both me and Insomnia are at 4 votes each now.

Please look at the 3 people (who are in your scumread) you currently are voting with. Then look at the 3 people other then me voting Insom

.

Spoiler: good point

[Rainn]

[Rainn]

You were smarter when you were an anime girl.

[Rainn]

Spoiler: the gamestate

[Rainn]

Spoiler: the gamestate

broken image waaaaah

or was that the point?

derp it was the point

tbh it wasn't the point, i'm still testing out gif uploaders and caption mechanics, it's good if you tell me when it's broken

Spoiler: gamestate

[Rainn]

Spoiler: the ceejay's question

[Rainn]

@sky by trying to ID me with the yin and yang phrase, were you perhaps hinting to see if i was Shoshin?

[Rainn]

i see

the game was heated up until the last pages but now slowed down i imagine

[Rainn]

*snore*

i could have townlocked you depending on how you answered sky, i'm a bit let down

i'll be collecting gifs and sorting in my private topic

i feel it's -ev town for me to keep influencing the game state rn so i'll try to disappear until there's 4 days in the deadline or so since i'm already kind of obvtown and in the meantime keep an eye on the wagons

i've been experimenting for one whole year the optimal and stress vs efficacy worth town play and i think that shitposting until you've a decent 3p PoE to convince your townblock to vote in one of them is the best way to go, i'll try to fully take responsibility in at least one of them flipping red and full case every one of my reads afterwards, but i'll not engage in any 1v1

see you and ceejay is locktown imo (the only one) so roster i would recommend you vote somewhere else

[Rainn]

btw i would recommend not hammering insomnia yet but i don't really care that much if mislynches happen

he doesn't have high wolf equity rn but that can change depending on what he does when he comes back

[Rainn]

UNVOTE:

[Rainn]

if someone is up to speedlynch this through i'm /in because it's a slot i can't sort

VOTE: lil uzi vet

[Rainn]

sorry im juggling a lot rn

what did you mean by this?

[Rainn]

VOTE: insomnia

l-1

[Rainn]

no

[Rainn]

who is wolf in that case roster?

and if you're going to say i'm scum, you might as well not have posted "insomnia isn't scum" because it seems you're trying to convince me assuming i'm town.

[Rainn]

You make me waste 30 minutes on catching up and you place me at L-1 when I'm doing an effort for this sorry town?

why you've been so aggressive this game

why the hell your only reads are:

town reading the most wolf read player because of silly questions he made

2 wolf reads

you've basically 0 posts about anyone else, it seems you're simply creating a narrative

[Rainn]

your montosh town read has exactly 0 sense and i expected way better from you

[Rainn]

insomnia, you're the kind of player that:

1. believed that urap had some kind of god tier meta on you

2. would try to play around a certain player because of it

your over-used aggression here doesn't really add up imo, nor does your complete tunnel. it feels it's all fabricated to look like your town game.

[Rainn]

i'm basically almost giving insomnia a town read for how much he is swearing people

and i'm not happy with that

it's also not hammer

[Rainn]

lol

tbh this might be hammer

sky moved her vote

hahahashahahah

[Rainn]

roster, the fact that you think i would hammer as wolf here is bad

[Rainn]

the fact that you thought that insomnia was a mislynch even when saying that you weren't confident in reads is also bad

[Rainn]

bambi said that it was l-2 with his vote

sky was so under the radar that i forgot her vote there

[Rainn]

UNVOTE:

it was very prob hammer though

[Rainn]

tbh i noticed what bambi was getting in and wanted some reaction but...

i'm not completely sold in town!insomnia here yet tbh

[Rainn]

the post-hammer thing was genuine but meh

he's been basically rude as fuck and i wasn't expecting that from him

[Rainn]

roster was as wolfy as one can be though

[Rainn]

you're ~somewhat~ toxic insomnia

i didn't expect you to be this toxic though.

[Rainn]

I always feel that this aggressiveness is being very over-used here without justification and you would be purposely trying to sound town by it

but anyway i'll give you a free pass this game because i wouldn't expect you to be this toxic about someone wolf reading you if you were actually a wolf

if you're though next time don't expect me to listen to your alt

VOTE: roster

[Rainn]

if you're though next time don't expect me to listen to your AtE

[Rainn]

considering no one else noticed that everyone was accidentally counting my vote twice that feels like a genuine reaction tho

i noticed

but ofc i wouldn't bring it up

[Rainn]

Hey look Rainn is jumping onto the mislynch he set up!

the fact that you're trying to talk to the thread instead of engaging me gives you even more wolf points

[Rainn]

i can do

[alch, roster, lil uzi vet]

today

[Rainn]

As cute as you are you’re not the only one in the thread.

And I scum read you first!

everytime you post i want to lockwolf you harder than alch or mon

and those two have been bad enough

[Rainn]

i can do

[alch, roster, lil uzi vet]

today

correcting:

[alch, roster, mon, lil uzi vet]

[Rainn]

You have remarkably misplaced confidence in your own abilities.

I like to accept the fact that I’m not any greater than random. There are other ways to win.

are you saying that to me?

[Rainn]

alch has been in my poe since the game technically began

even if he flips wolf i'm not going to be surprised

what are you even talking about?

[Rainn]

tbh i feel like quiting this game so hard

i also feel like revealing my main for roster to shut up about my reads

[Rainn]

i don't even think that i'm that better than random

my problem is you acting all high about sheeping someone about a read that was already my poe and never left it

i reconsidered putting bambi in the poe

i reconsidered putting you on it

i never reconsidered alch

[Rainn]

You have remarkably misplaced confidence in your own abilities.

[Rainn]

Well you seem remarkably convinced that

everything you say is true.

You’re not the only one in this game with that problem.

btw

i would recommend

not hammering insomnia yet but i don't really care that much if mislynches happen

he doesn't have high wolf equity rn but that can change depending on what he does when he comes back

see you and ceejay

is locktown

imo

(the only one) so roster

i would

recommend

you vote somewhere else

[Rainn]

hm

in that case ok

because like, i felt really tilted since i try to always be respectful to other reads

[Rainn]

i would put alch in l-1 but it's a bit early for 2 claims

consider me in spirit there though

[Rainn]

Rainn why would me thinking ur shoshin put me at lock town?

I trust shoshin's reads but I don't particularly know how to read them, i dont know them that well

do you think I'd be TRing you or SRing you here if I knew your main?

if you confusing me with shoshin i don't think you would say "i wish you were who i thought' as wolf

[Rainn]

i'm not entirely sure if it was shoshin or if it was ank

but both helped you solve micro 864 and i don't think that would be the first thing to come to mind as a wolf if you thought they were in this game

[Rainn]

i see

what did you mean by "i'm juggling a lot right now" though?

[Rainn]

i don't feel trying too hard right now anymore so here is my poe

it's not the poe i wanted because i wanted to put more effort on it, but i don't particularly care anymore tbh

town
ceejay

likely town
sky, roster?, urap, insomnia

fos
bambi

likely wolf
mon, alch, lil uzi vet
-------------------
yes, i reconsidered roster, i don't find him particularly wolf anymore.

[Rainn]

i believe the 2 wolf are in:

[mon, alch, lil uzi vet, bambi] and i would like the lynches to be more or less in that order although i don't care if mon or alch goes first.

it's also almost guaranteed to be only 2 wolves because mastina reviewed the setup and she particularly give town a lot of balance, so at maximum we could have a traitor here but if we had, we would have a shit ton of PRs and i don't believe in that at all

[Rainn]

so rn to me it's more or less auto-poe unless something catches my attention

if the two wolves are in [mon, alch, lil uzi vet, bambi], it's an auto win as long as we keep lynching inside that

[Rainn]

this is basically where im at except alch is town and cj i don't have a town read on

i see where you're coming from in cj

but i don't know, i feel that his posts here are completely out of what i would expect from wolf!ceejay.

[Rainn]

i've some minor experience with alch from mini normal 2067 that i read unspoilered

he was wolf in the game and basically kept trying to go under the radar and in the average pushes, and here he felt slightly more gamesolving, active and pushing (not particularly worth town reading him for that though imo, never saw a town game of him)

i had his two buddies as wolf reads (hitalt and vorkuta) but didn't really particularly mind him until LyLo because he was always so under-the-radar. i thought that flavor was the last wolf until he fake claimed doctor and it made not much sense setup-wise.

then...i can see quite a lot him being wolf here tbh. nothing that different i would say?

[Rainn]

like

i would particularly go to mon first before alch i think

but if mon flips town i would go for him anyway

[Rainn]

He’s most likely scum who knows he’s caught and is just trying to shout the rest of the thread into submission.

oh wait

this is kind of bad tbh

[Rainn]

i mean alch

you can argue about the reaction being fake

you can't argue that he is "caught" and "desperate" though

his wagon disappeared

[Rainn]

yeah i've gotten that under the radar feel every game from him which is why i don't feel like i never have a solid grip on his alignment

but if you set that aspect aside as a personality trait, then his play this game is downright townie i think

like i legit could be scumsiding here but I'm pretty committed to not lynching alch here day 1 without seeing a compelling case made against him

i'm not going to wolf read you for that if he flips red tbh

i don't think, right now, in this specific case, you hard defend him as a buddy

[Rainn]

Yeah it disappeared because people read his rage as Towny, which I don’t see.

i'm more basing my town points on him in the base of "i don't think he is that much of a jerk as wolf in l-1"

but this is going to be a game to measure the level of AtE he is fine to play with if he is a wolf.

[Rainn]

if mon is wolf i would say that lil uzi vet is the highest equity partner

if alch is wolf i would say that bambi is the highest equity partner?

i'm kind of locked in the [mon, alch, lil uzi vet, bambi] regardless of who is the team though

[Rainn]

should we get a flip already though?

i don't feel there is much more to discuss and if the team is outside of my poe good work because i don't have more motivation for this game

VOTE: alch

l-1

[Rainn]

btw i can see a wolf!urap here

not with alch as a buddy, but with another player

but i don't want to wait days and days to get more confident on my read there

i just want the flips in this game already for it to be over