Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

[RadiantCowbells]

Mercy is currently at 7 .[/color] Undertale Mafia Votecount 4.215: Papyrus (2): Rosterfoster, Shining Dreamers Chemist1422 (1): Pink Ball Shining Dreamers (1): Papyrus Pink Ball (0): The Worst (0): Rosterfoster (0): Dannflor (0): Not Voting: Chemist1422, Dannflor, The Worst With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch. The day ends (expired on 2019-05-19 15:00:00).

[Pink Ball]

VOTE: Shining Dreamers

[Shining Dreamers]

I don't think it'd be good for me to claim.

VOTE: Papyrus

To be clear.

We.
Have.
Fucking.
Massclaimed.

Everyone has claimed not only their flavor, but also their role--EVERYONE, that is, except for Papyrus.
You. do. not. leave. the. massclaim. unfinished. LEAST of all. When the person. Is a major fucking scumspect.

If it were Dannflor asking to not claim, then I'd still be a bit hesitant but ultimately I'd accept it.

But fuck no, not Papyrus.
You. are. letting. a. major. fucking. scumspect.
Get away.
With having time to craft the perfect fakeclaim.

And fuck that shit.

[rosterfoster]

My rudimentary end of day VCA (fmpov):

Spoiler: D1

Vedith

(9):

Team RWBY

,

Rosterfoster,

Chemist1422

,

Hot Lightning

,

Skygazer,

Wiisp,

Vedith,

Dannflor,

Alonzo

Rosterfoster

(2):

Reasonably Clever

,

Pink Ball

Skygazer

(2):

Brown Eyes

,

Shining Dreamers

Wiisp

(2):

Papyrus,

Something_Smart

Chemist1422

(1):

The Worst

Something_Smart

(1):

Game of Throws

Since the alternatives to Vedith were both town (myself + Alonzo) I don't think scum needed to have more than 1 person on the wagon. 2 is not impossible but I feel 1 is more likely - just sit back and let town tear itself apart.

So I would say likely [PB, SD, Pap, TW] contains scumteam.

Spoiler: D2

Something_Smart

(7):

Shining Dreamers

,

Skygazer

,

Wiisp, Alonzo, Rosterfoster,

The Worst, Dannflor

Shining Dreamers

(1):

Something_Smart

Skygazer

(1):

Brown Eyes

Chemist1422

(1):

Papyrus

Not Voting:

Reasonably Clever,

Chemist1422

,

Hot Lightning

The SS lynch was more forced through tbh so I can definitely see more than 1 scum on it,and maybe another staying off it (and so in the NV) to make sure it can get a last push. Dann hammering this as scum is not a million miles from possible but I could see this being an orchestrated scum push from SD and Sky (I don't really remember much about this tbh). Gives [SD, TW, Dann] containing 1 and [Pap, Chemist] containing other.

Spoiler: D3

Alonzo (5): Shining Dreamers, Rosterfoster, Dannflor, The Worst, Pink Ball
The Worst (1): Brown Eyes
Rosterfoster (1): Alonzo
Shining Dreamers (1):

Not Voting: Papyrus, Chemist1422

This is actually exactly the same compositions as D2, unfortunately (with the addition of PB).

This gives me one scum in [SD, TW, PB] and another scum in [Chemist, Pap] by VCA alone. I'm pretty sure PB is town so I'm comfortable saying scum is:

1 in [SD, TW]
1 in [Chemist, Pap]

Since TW tried so hard to human-clear SD I think SD is more than likely town (using some slightly flawed probabilities gives SD at 25% scum and TW at 75% scum).

So yeah, I think TW is scum.

But Pap needs to claim first, I agree.

[rosterfoster]

^Oh yeah I realised my D1 kind of excludes Chem so TW/Pap is still where I'm at. Tbh I SR Pap more than TW by this stage.

[Shining Dreamers]

I don't think it'd be good for me to claim.

VOTE: Papyrus

To be clear.

We.
Have.
Fucking.
Massclaimed.

Everyone has claimed not only their flavor, but also their role--EVERYONE, that is, except for Papyrus.
You. do. not. leave. the. massclaim. unfinished. LEAST of all. When the person. Is a major fucking scumspect.

If it were Dannflor asking to not claim, then I'd still be a bit hesitant but ultimately I'd accept it.

But fuck no, not Papyrus.
You. are. letting. a. major. fucking. scumspect.
Get away.
With having time to craft the perfect fakeclaim.

And fuck that shit.

Btw for full disclosure.
I told Yume that, basically, I honestly believed that if we didn't vote Chemist, we were getting lynched. She wanted to vote Papyrus, but I was obviously the one to cast both our initial Chemist vote and our Chemist revote.
I still feel that way to be honest. That by not voting Chemist, WE get lynched instead.

Forcing Papyrus to lock in a claim, a FULLclaim, TODAY?
Worth it.

[rosterfoster]

I don’t get why we lynch you when you’ve been human-cleared and we know Chara exists.

[Shining Dreamers]

I don’t get why we lynch you when you’ve been human-cleared and we know Chara exists.

Because everyone in the game, in spite of at least half of them having reasons to know better, think we're scum anyway in spite of those reasons (you have us as in the POE for shitty VCA, for instance), and that half of the players doesn't include the scum who would be all too happy to join in. Also, among those prominently scumreading us are Pink Ball, who is by far the "loudest" voice other than our own right now, so.

It only takes four votes (the votecount erroneously lists it as 9 alive, 5 to lynch but by my count we've got only 7 alive and thus 4 to lynch) and we're half way there with Papyrus and Pink Ball. Add Chemist for 3, and all it takes is any one of {the worst, you, Dannflor} being convinced for it to be a hammer.

Or if you assume the scumteam isn't exactly Papyrus/Chemist, well with both Papyrus and Chemist on it plus Pink Ball, that means that if there's a scum in {the worst, you, Dannflor}...again, they are all too happy to join in on the wagon, hammering it. They can't quite do so as readily/easily as Chemist can, but all it takes is someone like Pink Ball 'convincing' them (with logic that is questionable at best, but again keep in mind they'd want to join in here so they only need ever so slightest of excuses), and BAM.

Lynch.

This isn't fearmongering off of a possibility. This is just sheer, cold, hard, fact of the matter, truth. With Pink Ball pushing us and two scum backing him, especially if our Papyrus/Chemist solve

is

correct, we get lynched today. And the best/only way to avoid that is for Pink Ball to think that we don't make sense as a scumbuddy for his solve. Voting Chemist eliminates half of the possibilities in his worldview, leaving it as ONLY possible as the worst-Shining Dreamers; everything else he'd see as impossible.

By NOT voting Chemist, we open up the door to him seeing Chemist-Shining Dreamers as a possible scumteam--thus giving him TWO worlds where we are scum (the worst-us, Chemist-us), rather than just the one, effectively doubling our chances of being scum and halving his reasons to go elsewhere.

And with Pink Ball having double the reasons to push us.
It's double the reasons for us to end up lynched.

Which is why I told Yume that I honestly felt that if we didn't vote Chemist, WE were getting lynched.

But fuckit.
To take down Papyrus, it'd be

worth

it.

[Shining Dreamers]

(Basically, if you want to know what that is in two words, it's Situational Awareness.
People usually see me use that term as scum to apply to how I am such a good scum manipulator--situational awareness comes into play by using my psychological profiles of every player to map out where the scumteam stands, to create a strategy, a plan, to be aware of where we are and what we need to do to get the fastest, most efficient, least risky route to victory, maximizing reward and minimizing the risks.

I often use situational awareness as scum to pull off psychic stunts like, without having any rational reason to KNOW I'll be cop checked, plan for me being cop checked because on some level I

knew

it would happen, and then set my scumbuddies up so that after I get cop checked, they look immensely town...and the cop ends up widely discredited because of how I react to the guilty, due to people thinking I as scum wouldn't just roll over and die, unless the guilty was a bus gambit.

But as I've said before on numerous occasions, while situational awareness is one of my greatest, strongest tools as scum...it is not a tool

exclusively

available to me as scum. I also have it as town, I just can do less with it. Situational awareness is directly tied to how much information I have at my disposal. As the informed minority, I have most of the information in the game; as the uninformed majority, the only information I start with is my alignment and my role, and from there it is a matter of what "feels" right. I can sometimes predict scum kills, I can usually get reasonably decent reads on the gamestate, I can usually correctly identify basic scum distribution on votecounts, but the specific details I always get wrong because I lack the complete picture.

My situational awareness as town is, however, sharpest on one occasion: when it is centered around ME. I know EXACTLY when I am at risk of being lynched, I can see EXACTLY how it will happen, and while I might not know exactly what to do to stop it, I often have a choice; let the lynch happen, or fight against it. The former is done out of spite, where I WANT them to mislynch me, out of just a laughing "ahahahaha FUCK YOU, BITCHES! GUESS WHAT?" attitude where I know the

greatest

sense of joy I can have is for them to be

convinced

I am scum and have the flip prove otherwise. I'll even often go out of my way to avoid giving the ruse away; I'll avoid giving last reads and last reasons so that people have no way of telling that they're about to mislynch town, because the SPITE in me at them getting that far is just THAT strong.

The latter I'm fully aware is dangerously close to my scum meta, and I don't know why I take that attitude. Probably STILL out of spite, just differently manifested. I objectively, reasonably, rationally know that what I SHOULD do is my town meta, of trying to gamesolve constantly, but for whatever reason when people actually start pushing me as scum, seriously genuinely pushing me as scum with actual backing that puts me at legitimate, genuine risk of being lynched--that I can sense through said situational awareness--at that time, instead of doubling down on my scumhunting, I just. Find paths towards possible survival and act them out.

The paths aren't perfect, and they are usually outright NASTY, even toxic, but they still delay the lynch on me, I guess with the hopes that so much as a

single

scumflip later in the game altogether proves I'm not scum off of associatives and/or role clears. Because usually the time I'm at risk of being lynched is when there are precisely two scum left in the game; I'm USUALLY not at risk of being mislynched before then.

Butyeah, the path to me living is voting Chemist.
The path to doing what's fucking

right

is voting Papyrus.
And fuckit, fuck the survivalism, I'm doing what's right and voting for Papyrus.)

[rosterfoster]

You can survive and vote Papyrus.

I’ll fight for you! <3.

(Inb4 this is scum and you did this precisely to pocket me)

[Papyrus]

I'm not reading those walls.

Roster, why are you voting me?

[the worst]

VOTE: Shining Dreamers L-2

[Chemist1422]

pre-sleep thoughts:

pap/TW not a team, probably has one
that means the other is in roster/SD and I'd probably go SD over roster

ok good night

[rosterfoster]

Why is Pap/TW not a team?

[rosterfoster]

I'm not reading those walls.

Roster, why are you voting me?

You’re scum.

[Chemist1422]

Why is Pap/TW not a team?

Sky post saying Pap TMI’d TW wolf is unlikely w/w/w

[Pink Ball]

the worst and Pap is not the team 'cause I already decided the worst is town, so keep moving

[rosterfoster]

I wanna lynch Pap today.

[Dannflor]

I have been poked oops

Sorry guys been really out of it site-wide lately

I'll give this game my full attention tonight

[Shining Dreamers]

I'm not reading those walls. Roster, why are you voting me?

VOTE: Shining Dreamers L-2

pre-sleep thoughts:
pap/TW not a team, probably has one
that means the other is in roster/SD and I'd probably go SD over roster
ok good night

I don't want to say "I told you so", but...ehh fuckit, I can't even say that with a straight face because I

absolutely

want to say I fucking told you so.

If you think that there's not at least one scum if not two (and the answer is almost definitively two) in this immediate set of posts...you're fucking delusional.

[Shining Dreamers]

And no, we're not at L-2; we're at L-1. the worst would fucking KNOW that, too, since he at least pretends to read my posts and I specifically fucking pointed out that it's four to lynch, and I specifically fucking pointed out that Pink Ball and Papyrus were already voting me, so he fucking knows that his vote on top of the other two places us at L-1.

[rosterfoster]

Hey if it’s not Pap/TW then I think it’s Pap/You or Pap/Chemist.

Either way Pap is scum.

[Shining Dreamers]

And just so you know?
Pink Ball you have claimed to read every post I ever wrote, so if you legitimately have.
And you fucking read the above.
And with you up to date you posted 5366.
And you didn't think about the fucking obvious.

Of how there's no fucking scumteam which includes us that actually makes sense, unless you really DO think it's us-Chemist (in which case, just fucking lol? You have no fucking right to ever call yourself competent if you ACTUALLY think that's how I treat a scumbuddy).

Your play is absolute

ASS

.

[rosterfoster]

Hey PB I know I have no right to claim I know anything about anything this game but I really think Pap is scum.

[rosterfoster]

And that SD is town