Micro 870: Lynch Happy

[no lunch]

Iconeum, are you mafia or tp?

[Datisi]

Oh great, I love waking up to 4 or so pages of math
VOTE: NMSA don't do illegal kids

[Iconeum]

Iconeum, are you mafia or tp?

both

[PvtUrist]

ego

[PvtUrist]

VOTE: Datisi

[u r a person 2]

@Pvturist why datisi over iconeum

Vex why u ruining RVS with maths and stuff? I don't like math

Oh great, I love waking up to 4 or so pages of math
VOTE: NMSA don't do illegal kids

[Clemency]

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

found the lyncher :^)

Elsa's probably the lyncher, actually

at least they definitely wanted to be

[Elsa Jay]

Don't 3p shame me. Also, very weird to accuse me of it so fast. What did I even do?

[Iconeum]

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

Vex is town. Please find somewhere else to focus.

Vex provided faulty setup spec and math… this is town?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

so obviously this is the least strong of the reads because only two posts

BUT

"I await with bated breath" is pretty passive aggressive and I think that comes from town more than scum this early in the game

It's like, "yeah, yeah, you're going to do setup spec. That's definitely going to help us solve this game /s"

It feels like someone who is just speaking their mind. like, i'd expect scum to be happy wasting time on setup spec, or to ignore someone who is about to delve into setup spec

I also think early aggression is slightly town indicative, generally

personally, i find his remark nai. to me the whole post feels awkward in general, but its not awkward enough that id call it scummy.
id also disagree on scum ignoring someone doing setup spec. with deadlines like this, id expect town to wanna move away from it asap, but scum want to keep it going instead.

if you really wanna help me get us out of rvs and start discussing the game, urap, sell me on elsa as well.

Hedging and wifom, wants to get out of RVS but opens with setup spec…
Vex is scum and I I'll fight anyone over this read

[Vex Vience]

im using data, so ill make this post quick.

Vex why u ruining RVS with maths and stuff? I don't like math

im trying to get us out of rvs. i dont wanna stay in rvs due to the fact we have a week deadline to lynch. please read my posts before saying this. i explained it elsewhere.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

like i said, i wanna get out of rvs. i realized it was wrong after urap said it was. its a simple math error. i also dont wanna stay in rvs for very long just so we can maximize our discussion time.

I haven't played with many of you, I don't see how it's town.

Avoiding RVS and focusing on spec is ez way for scum to survive RVS. Why are you townreading him?

please read stack the deck, the only other game i actually played in on this account. i opened that game the exact same way, albeit with correct math, and i was vt. please explain what makes this game different.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

found the lyncher :^)

id honestly agree on this. see bottom for reasoning.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

found the lyncher :^)

Elsa's probably the lyncher, actually

why do you think elsa is lyncher?

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

Vex is town. Please find somewhere else to focus.

Vex provided faulty setup spec and math… this is town?

once again, look at stack the deck. i did the same exact thing as vt in this game. if im scum, why would i do it again? i only did it on this account to distance myself from my main. if i was scum here and someone asked me why i didnt do it, i could just easily say that i did it to distance myself from my main. since my alt is public knowledge, whats the point of that?

VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

so obviously this is the least strong of the reads because only two posts

BUT

"I await with bated breath" is pretty passive aggressive and I think that comes from town more than scum this early in the game

It's like, "yeah, yeah, you're going to do setup spec. That's definitely going to help us solve this game /s"

It feels like someone who is just speaking their mind. like, i'd expect scum to be happy wasting time on setup spec, or to ignore someone who is about to delve into setup spec

I also think early aggression is slightly town indicative, generally

personally, i find his remark nai. to me the whole post feels awkward in general, but its not awkward enough that id call it scummy.
id also disagree on scum ignoring someone doing setup spec. with deadlines like this, id expect town to wanna move away from it asap, but scum want to keep it going instead.

if you really wanna help me get us out of rvs and start discussing the game, urap, sell me on elsa as well.

Hedging and wifom, wants to get out of RVS but opens with setup spec…
Vex is scum and I I'll fight anyone over this read

ico is lyncher with target on me, i guarantee it. ill actually explain why, although, it wont be the full case until im not using data. consider this the tl;dr.
my major problem with this is that ico came into this game and instantly started to accuse me. literally no hesitation on that. to me that means he is most likely the lyncher with target on me. he could be confused town and pushing on me for that, but that is something i dont really think is possible. i also dont believe that hes mafia because if he was, why would he bother going through that when he could just shoot me tonight?
but also if you look at his iso: posts 86, 87, 94, 108, 109 are all talking about me. the only posts that dont? 90 (fluff post), 99 (calling elsa lyncher), 102 (joke reply). ico has an agenda to lynch me, making me his target.

ill make a full case and reply to his posts and go more in-depth on other things in about 7hrs when i get home from school for the day. i dont wanna use data if i dont have to.

[Vex Vience]

heres my entire iso from stack the deck btw.

[Vex Vience]

actually nvm. using the power of google translate i have access to ms once again. give me a bit to fully explain all my thoughts.

[Vex Vience]

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

so, what are your thoughts on that then? care to share?

Oh great, I love waking up to 4 or so pages of math
VOTE: NMSA don't do illegal kids

ego

any thoughts on the game so far from either of you?

[Vex Vience]

alright, let me case ico then ill be good.

[Vex Vience]

nvm, google translate stopped working. ill work on it outside of the site then post it when i get done.

[Datisi]

Thoughts so far? Ico is definitely acting suspicious ngl. Setup discussion makes you slight townlean for me since I think that sharing that info around (in a setup like this that's being played for the first time - correct me if I'm wrong) helps us more than RVS

[Vex Vience]

Spoiler: ico case

Vex why u ruining RVS with maths and stuff? I don't like math

so this post doesnt feel townie at all. i didnt post this thought at all, (i thought i did), but one of the major things is that i think is town wants to get out of rvs early and scum want to stay in rvs. this feels like a weak attempt at pushing me after trying to get us into discussing the game early on. the other thing is that rvs doesnt really help contribute

that

much to the gamestate as a whole. sure it allows early pressure but the game can quickly stall out in rvs.

the second sentence from ico also feels out of place. ok, you dont like math? so what? why should i care? it feels like a post being made just to say something else so the "why are you ruining rvs" sentence makes more sense. either way, they dont feel like a post a townie would make in general.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

the first sentence of this post is decent, ig. to me, it feels more like an attempt at trying to look productive by stating the obvious, but, for me it comes off as weird. he acknowledges that its wrong but doesnt bother stating where. why would that be? it feels like hes trying to state it to make his post feel more townie than it really is.

the second sentence of this post is literally a rephrasing of 86 and isnt productive/helpful at all. "why are you trying to ruining, [trying to get out of], rvs" and "why are you unwilling to get into rvs" are the same exact question, just phrased differently. it makes his post feel like hes trying to be productive and figure out why i started with setup spec, but not actually putting forth any effort into it. the other thing with it is that ico called out only me and not urap who went along with it. why would that be unless hes lyncher and im their target?

I haven't played with many of you, I don't see how it's town.

Avoiding RVS and focusing on spec is ez way for scum to survive RVS. Why are you townreading him?

the first sentence doesnt make sense to me at all. how does playing with any of us mean that my setup spec is townie or not? it feels off to me, and doesnt really make sense. it leads into the second sentence of him calling me scum for avoiding rvs and focusing on setup spec to survive rvs, but that doesnt literally make any sense for me. im playing under alt. ive proven under this alt that im much more serious and focused on the game. why would i be concerned about surviving rvs under the alt? under main, sure, we could argue that, but under vex?

the second thing about it is that hes answering his own question raised by 86 and 87. hes saying that the reason why im unwilling to get into rvs and ruin it, (according to ico), is because im scum. which, that makes sense if hes lyncher trying to push on me. i will keep hammering this point that ico is lyncher and im their target as well, because i dont see any alternatives apart from that.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

found the lyncher :^)

Elsa's probably the lyncher, actually

i dont like how this post feels actually. ive already stated numerous times that i believe ico is lyncher and im their target, so this post feels really out of place for me and a cheap attempt at deflecting suspicion from themselves onto elsa, (who jokingly claimed lyncher earlier). however, in interest of seeing why ico thinks that,

@ico, care to explain why?

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

Vex is town. Please find somewhere else to focus.

Vex provided faulty setup spec and math… this is town?

this is something that isnt rephrased but it still feels weird to me. i did post things other than setup spec which is readable. yet ico doesnt seem really concerned with any of those posts, just my setup spec ones and attempts at getting us out of rvs to start discussing the game. my thought on this is that ico saw the setup spec as an easy push for me and then when it failed he tried to feign confusion.

VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

so obviously this is the least strong of the reads because only two posts

BUT

"I await with bated breath" is pretty passive aggressive and I think that comes from town more than scum this early in the game

It's like, "yeah, yeah, you're going to do setup spec. That's definitely going to help us solve this game /s"

It feels like someone who is just speaking their mind. like, i'd expect scum to be happy wasting time on setup spec, or to ignore someone who is about to delve into setup spec

I also think early aggression is slightly town indicative, generally

personally, i find his remark nai. to me the whole post feels awkward in general, but its not awkward enough that id call it scummy.
id also disagree on scum ignoring someone doing setup spec. with deadlines like this, id expect town to wanna move away from it asap, but scum want to keep it going instead.

if you really wanna help me get us out of rvs and start discussing the game, urap, sell me on elsa as well.

Hedging and wifom, wants to get out of RVS but opens with setup spec…
Vex is scum and I I'll fight anyone over this read

the hedging and wifom are also different, but it feels like really weak attempts at trying to make it seem like he knows

exactly

what hes talking about without really putting forth the effort of trying. the rvs thing ive gone over many times now, but the open setup spec really gets me the most. the setup has never been ran before now. weve never seen it played. ofc id wanna discuss speculation for it. however, the other thing is in stack the deck

i did the same exact thing at the very beginning

and ill bring it up once again:

if im scum here, why did i go into setup spec once again? wouldnt it be easier for me to ignore it and move on, or stall the game in rvs, like ive stated i believe scum would want to do? ive only done it once under vex and that was to distance myself from my main. ive never done it again under my main. so why would i do it once again? please explain that bit.

over all, i really think ico is the lyncher, and i think hes currently the best vote target. his iso has focused solely on me and really nobody else. hes made a few replies to the others, but overall his iso is scummy and suggests he has an agenda to lynch me. thats really why i wanna lynch him. ik i said before i dont wanna lynch the lyncher d1 if possible, however, im basically taking ico's iso as him claiming hes lyncher without actually directly saying hes lyncher. if nothing else major happens/changes, id like to lynch him. for now however, i wanna use the rest of the day to discuss and see what else we can do before calling it a day.

VOTE: ico

[u r a person 2]

oh, nm. Ico is right

VOTE: vex

[Vex Vience]

oh, nm. Ico is right

VOTE: vex

explain your vote and how ico is right. i literally dont see how he is right about me being scum, even when i try to look at it from his pov

[u r a person 2]

your wall posts and insistence that it doesn't make sense for you to copy your town meta as scum are scummy af mate

[Vex Vience]

read stack the deck. i quoted my own meta several times in that game. i played exactly how i am now. and also, you are saying that one single post from me is singlehandedly scummier than icos iso, which only is targeting me. please explain that logic now.

[u r a person 2]

tbh outside of his first math is bad post i don't think he's scummy

It's not that I don't like you quoting meta, but it's not a good faith argument to say that posting setup spec makes you town because you've done it as town. like, damn, talk about the easiest part of a self meta to fake lol

and any reasonable person would realize that they could do setup spec, so the argument is simply in bad faith

you're scum

[u r a person 2]

would realize that they could do setup spec

just as easily as scum

**

[Vex Vience]

clearly you didnt read my case then. most of the argument is that ico is solely targeting me. he claimed im trying to avoid rvs by trying to use setup spec because im trying to survive rvs or something. he rephrases/repeats stuff and doesnt do anything productive apart from trying to push on me.

you are openly admitting that the lyncher has a case. please understand that. once you fully read my case against ico, then by all means, make your own opinion.