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[insomnia]

alch i feel like i'd be a very easy push for scum you to do here tbh which worries me

I could have either stayed on Jay or pushed Rain if I wanted an easy push.

I kind of don't like this post. You didn't really try to stop the Jay wagon, and wifom as to "I could've done this as well" isn't necessary. I don't look at Rain as an easy push, which is why I think you kind of fell into the blunder of making your scum read target town read you and validate your push, which is quite...weird, and scummy.

[insomnia]

I thought being worried early was scummy?

going for a player just because they made an L-1 vote (esp when that player doesn't like having attention drawn to them as scum) is concerning, no? seems like a very easy push to make without getting any blowback and that's what I remember from alch's scum MO from sneks and noodles

Why did you put the wagon to L-1 in the first place? Were you not worried about a derp/lol hammer?

Town are more reckless and are not really worried, that's why sky's thought process on urap making a lamist post and unvoting so fast makes sense.

[insomnia]

I thought being worried early was scummy?

going for a player just because they made an L-1 vote (esp when that player doesn't like having attention drawn to them as scum) is concerning, no? seems like a very easy push to make without getting any blowback and that's what I remember from alch's scum MO from sneks and noodles

I'm failing to see the connection, but it sounds like you have a better handle on Alch as a player than I do

alch i feel like i'd be a very easy push for scum you to do here tbh which worries me

I could have either stayed on Jay or pushed Rain if I wanted an easy push.

don't see how Jay was anything more than a meme push so i disagree with you there

why do you think Rain would be an easy push?

Very vocal about pushing the quicklynch for no reason and the rest of their posting

wasn’t contributing anything

. That sort of player is easy to push and could be claimed as a “cut the crap” wagon.

Also you have seen my scumgame before so you’re the last person I’d want to push based on that. Calling yourself an easy push isn’t really a good defense of yourself either because you’re not doing anything to refute the actual scumread on you, you’re just trying to play the victim.

What do you expect someone to contribute with on the first page?

Scum vibes on this dude here.

[insomnia]

poe

so you're TRing me??? why??

do you want me to change my mind?

i've already weakened a lot my good feelings on you with this post

a lot.

why?

since I'm a stream of consciousness poster, I'll leave this here and get back to it in case urap decides to vote skygazer, in which case it is scummy as fuck.

[insomnia]

Very vocal about pushing the quicklynch for no reason and the rest of their posting wasn’t contributing anything. That sort of player is easy to push and could be claimed as a “cut the crap” wagon.

Also you have seen my scumgame before so you’re the last person I’d want to push based on that. Calling yourself an easy push isn’t really a good defense of yourself either because you’re not doing anything to refute the actual scumread on you, you’re just trying to play the victim.

oh shit you might be town

not really defending myself tho? just saying that i could def see scum you make that push

Why does this make you townread Alch?

Another good post from Mon, I think he's one of my town reads, I'll look into his shit wagon later on. Looks like I was about right with my tr on him, oh well.

[insomnia]

poe

so you're TRing me??? why??

do you want me to change my mind?

i've already weakened a lot my good feelings on you with this post

a lot.

I see my play more likely to be scumread than townread here so it struck me as odd

So WHY, prey tell, me and Alch voting you for self admitted scummy behavior is bad then?

this post is bullshit, you voted Skygazer on page 3, this is page 8, this argument makes no sense. I don't know the specific term for this if someone can help me out.

[insomnia]

Who is this elsa person and why does she keep getting mentioned?

Page 8, no contribution to the game state, had a bad argument as a filler to say "Oh look I'm posting" with that skygazer thing. And you question my reads. Wtf is this town player list.

[insomnia]

VOTE: montosh

A lot of reasons in this iso why other people's opinions are bad, and very little opinion outside of that. I'll figure out how to put it into words better later, but I think this is scum

this is fucking bad, urap.

[insomnia]

Anyone see some empty posts from Insomnia? Wonder what he tried to post.

I'm loling because you are the one to point this out

[insomnia]

btw it's not impossible that insomnia is purposely trying to play around urap by acting this way

but later we'll see

i'm fine with my poe right now

Insomnia and URAP having vastly different takes on how URAP should be reading him is odd. Maybe not playing around him per se but definitely worth keeping an eye on.

Not related to this post, but I have something to say regarding alch.

So, Sky said he was aggressive and whatnot. I don't believe that is the case. I genuinely believe he had no reason to vote you, his early arguments were weird, like I pointed out. Sky mentions the aggressiveness later on when Alch was starting to cooperate with Skygazer and talk casually with her, almost becoming passive and going under the radar.

I feel like he wanted to park his vote based on the arguments I've given. Started off as a scum read without any sort of reasoning, then went to a casual conversation and he disappeared, I bet this is what happens. What a parking slot fam

[insomnia]

If you can go on and not focus me if town that would be great Insom. Or keep doing it as scum. Works for me either way.

Have been away for a considerable amount of time and you haven't done anything. You're using it way too much as an excuse to defend yourself for not posting game relevant content. Grow balls.

[Rainn]

sorry im juggling a lot rn

what did you mean by this?

[insomnia]

VOTE: Bambi Jay

I'd still like to know where you get this read on urap from? Do you have some meta for that. I see no reason for scum not to be wishy-washy like that.

I'm kinda wishy-washy by default but okay. He took the game serious first and seems more then ready to get association tells one way or another. Good for town.

But how does taking the game seriously preclude him from jumping on and off a wagon? I don't see the connection.

Good post, this had no answer from Bambi.

[insomnia]

Wtf is this game?

Yeah, called it.

VOTE: Alchemist

moving on.

[insomnia]

we have at maximum 3 lynches so

roster > mon > lil uzi vet

let's go?

this list is worrying me. fos on alch and proposes this lynch list. yikes.

[rosterfoster]

VOTE: Rainn

Hey wanna sheep me?

[insomnia]

VOTE: Montosh

Until Sky can be more scummy, Unfortantely I'll have to settle in following Rain instead, Alchy boy. Perhaps if you join us we can actually do something here and gather clues better. Everyone decided focusing me page 1 was a valid strategy for some reason.

Nice game solving, voting your counter wagon when you're top, OwO

[Bambi Jay]

If you had pointed that out like 200 posts ago you'd be in a better position now.

[insomnia]

Insomnia are you willing to vote Skygazer?

This is scum. Engaging with new players, asking them to sheep alch so he doesn't get suspected by me. I feel like locking alch as scum.

[insomnia]

Well usually I'd shitpost more but when people gang up on me I gotta take the game more serious. That and and having a Lyncher is draining on me.

Yeah, I remember it being draining in Donner Party where I owned your ass. You were scum that game as well. You were active in RVS as well. You were shitposting as well.

I have yet to see the almighty Jay that everyone's talking about.

[rosterfoster]

Insomnia I know you’re a mafia god but I’m too lazy to sheep you.

[insomnia]

Alright then.

VOTE: Insomnia

I want this more than Sky now.

You never wanted sky, but it's okay.

[insomnia]

Skygazer are you willing to vote Insomnia?

Since when do you ask your alleged scum reads to sheep you on another player? kappa

[insomnia]

I’m not going to do any ISOs unless you say “Please daddy insomnia”

In that case we're lynching you because I think you're simply trying to copy your "town meta" because Urap2 is here

So if I don’t oblige I get lynched.

If Bambi doesn’t oblige it’s pro-town behavior.

Kek this lobby

If it makes you feel better the Bambi stuff isn’t really why I’m scumreading you and I get that Jay is annoying to most people.

Rise and shine sweetie, you'll have to put up a big ass case, because I've been super town in my posts.

It feels like you're clinging on every single town consensus scum read.

Sky wasn't engaging with you which made it easy for you to park your vote. Your aggression went to a 0 on sky and you went afk. When I join the thread, you ask me to sheep you so that my first idea is you are scum reading sky when in reality you just parked your vote on someone without a reason.

now, present your big boi case.

[insomnia]

If it makes you feel better the Bambi stuff isn’t really why I’m scumreading you and I get that Jay is annoying to most people.

Why are you wolf reading him in that case?

A good part of it is how he’s treated URAP and the more they interact the more I lean scum. But my reachout asking him to vote Sky was the deciding factor. They had no mention of Sky in their ISO so I asked them to vote with me to see if they would or wouldn’t. The “I’ll have to ISO them” followed by a refusal to do just that reads like they don’t want any kind of interaction with that slot and I’m suspecting they are a scumteam.

Sky willing to vote Insomnia makes me question them being a team but I think she’s smart enough to have already realized what I was doing so she won’t get as many Town points on an Insomnia red flip as Insomnia would have had if he voted Sky and she flipped red.

Woah chill megamind, no need to raise the number of brain cells to a higher one than 50, if you do that, people will start scum reading you and they won't vote me anymore