Micro 870: Lynch Happy

[Clemency]

the vague no lunch wagon confuses me
like it seems just a little too eager

[Vex Vience]

guess scam and lacher in no lunch Elsa and Datisi

why these two players specifically? why not any of the other players who havent really talked or contributed in the meanwhile?

Ico's intro is NAI, I feel his contributions are more genuine town than faking activity as scam

Daitisi's intro is forced, her second post is bland/passive

care to explain why her intro is forced? im not seeing it

Feeling this Vex!Urap!Ico interaction is TvT from vibe and with other not commenting or starting new topics, probably scam is just floating along watching teh TvT

i had the idea that scum was just lingering somewhere and watching. if thats the case, its either tvt or tvl (town v lyncher)

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

I'm feeling personally attacked RN.

feels SvS

how exactly does this feel svs? this just feels more like rvs banter.

wait why are we voting no lunch

agreed. also, do you have any thoughts on the game so far?

why not vote no lunch

who else scam

this feels a bit too eager for my liking. and also, ive outlined that i believe ico is scum and that i believe urap is scum, yet you decide on nl who is one of the townier players in this game, imo? whats your logic on that?

the vague no lunch wagon confuses me
like it seems just a little too eager

agreed with clem on this.

[Vex Vience]

also, nl is town. ill post a full readlist in a few.

[Vex Vience]

{vex}

{nl}

{pvt}

{elsa, clem, nmsa, datisi}

- null

{urap, ico}

{}

{}

nl feels townie to me. their posting is relaxed, seems natural.
pvt feels natural and seems townie. just confused on eagerness of wanting to wagon nl
elsa, clem, nmsa, datisi havent posted anything i can get a read on
urap is scummy due to the number of reasons ive posted before
ico is scummy for the number of reasons ive posted before, however, after a re-read, its less scummy to me.

[u r a person 2]

people i don't think i'll be voting today {Pvt, Vex, Ico, maybe clem}

[Clemency]

like, i'd be okay with a no lunch lynch if it was a day from deadline because i dont necessarily scumread anyone else right now
i feel like i just need to see more from other people to form reads

[Elsa Jay]

Would you like to see me juggle?

[NotMySpamAccount]

For whatever reason

I had thought there was a jester in this setup

. My apologies. u r a person 2 and Iconeum remain the players I have found the least likely to be town so far.

That might be my fault, I claimed jester in RVS. Also, VOTE: Vex. I think I like the case for him as lyncher. urap is town I think.

[Vex Vience]

@clem id imagine youd be able to make a read on several players, (namely me, urap and possibly ico). do you have any reads on them so far, and if so, what are they?
@elsa please answer my previous questions, and post your thoughts on the game so far.
@nsma do you have any other thoughts than me being possibly lyncher?

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.3

With 9 alive, it is 5 to Lynch

no lunch (2): PvtUrist, u r a person 2
Vex Vience (2): Elsa Jay, NotMySpamAccount
Iconeum (1): Vex Vience
Elsa Jay (1): no lunch,
u r a person 2 (0):
NotMySpamAccount (0):
PvtUrist (0):
Datisi (0):
Clememcy (0):

Not Voting (3): Clemency, Iconeum, Datisi

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-16 16:00:00). Currently this means that no lunch will be lynched.

[u r a person 2]

Would you like to see me juggle?

yess?????

[NotMySpamAccount]

@clem id imagine youd be able to make a read on several players, (namely me, urap and possibly ico). do you have any reads on them so far, and if so, what are they?
@elsa please answer my previous questions, and post your thoughts on the game so far.
@nsma do you have any other thoughts than me being possibly lyncher?

not really, I'm not trying hard in any game rn cause of irl exhaustion. Also,

@mod, I'm voting Vex, not urap

Jingle~ So you are.

Would you like to see me juggle?

yess?????

^^^^

[Clemency]

@clem id imagine youd be able to make a read on several players, (namely me, urap and possibly ico). do you have any reads on them so far, and if so, what are they?
@elsa please answer my previous questions, and post your thoughts on the game so far.
@nsma do you have any other thoughts than me being possibly lyncher?

if i could i wouldnt specifically say i cant

[no lunch]

Alright, fair enough
UNVOTE: nl
What makes you suspect urap if I may ask?

I do not see a purpose for unvoting me in 172. Why did you do this?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Datisi, gun to head who is the lyncher and why?

[NotMySpamAccount]

oh hi no lunch guess we had the same idea

[no lunch]

Did we?
I work in mysterious ways.

[PvtUrist]

guess scam and lacher in no lunch Elsa and Datisi

why these two players specifically? why not any of the other players who havent really talked or contributed in the meanwhile?

They're the scumreads at the time. My readlist goes;
{urap, ico, vex} town
{clem, nmsa} null
{datisi} lacher
{elsa, nl} scam

I don't believe my townreads are off, or atleast it shouldn't be as simple as urap!ico scamteam. Clem is being Clem who's not really pinging scam yet. NMSA is completely null.
Datisi's posts feel a bit too artificial/fencesitty/not-actually-trying-to-solve-the-game. Lacher because PoE Elsa!nl scamteam theory.
Elsa!nl is scummy, will explain.

Ico's intro is NAI, I feel his contributions are more genuine town than faking activity as scam

Daitisi's intro is forced, her second post is bland/passive

care to explain why her intro is forced? im not seeing it

By intuition. Could be wrong, but I felt the post pinged a bit weirdly so mentioned it.

Feeling this Vex!Urap!Ico interaction is TvT from vibe and with other not commenting or starting new topics, probably scam is just floating along watching teh TvT

i had the idea that scum was just lingering somewhere and watching. if thats the case, its either tvt or tvl (town v lyncher)

yes

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

I'm feeling personally attacked RN.

feels SvS

how exactly does this feel svs? this just feels more like rvs banter.

Nothing solid. Just that 1) I scumread both players, and 2) "I'm feeling personally attacked RN" feels like responding to a fellow scammer rather than banter.

why not vote no lunch

who else scam

this feels a bit too eager for my liking. and also, ive outlined that i believe ico is scum and that i believe urap is scum, yet you decide on nl who is one of the townier players in this game, imo? whats your logic on that?

Ico!urap is townread. nl is scamread. Perhaps we could look into eachother's perspectives.

[PvtUrist]

i think you and ico are mafia together. ico got caught, so youre jumping in to defend him.

wrong ico. if you actually read my posts, youd know im scumreading you for solely interacting with me in your iso. you only interacted with others to joke with them.
im scumreading urap for being so eager to jump to your defense, making a complete 180 in their read of me based off of two points in my 7-8 point argument against you, plus other reasons.

ill reply to other things in a moment, just got up and getting food

Here's where I'm at with the urap!ico case, do correct me if I'm wrong.

- Ico is scum for having the vast majority of his posts against Vex
- Ico hasn't responded much to other's posts, or only minimally.

- Urap is scum for changing their reads by roughly 180 degrees after the Vex!Ico engagement
- Urap's push on Vex is based on weak arguments

Not much time in weekends

I stand by my thoughts, Vex opening so hard on mechanical talk and stuff is the IDEAL place where scum can hide. It's completely NAI and no way to sort him on it. He refused to engage in RVS, 'because we need to get out of RVS asap' is something I strongly oppose and is a scummy move.

After that, Vex is scumreading both players who voted on him 'because only scum would vote him' right?

My argument for Ico is that he's not shading or making personal assaults, but rather being confused about why Vex is being townread solely for mech-talk. The only thing I'm worried about is his "Vex is scum and I I'll fight anyone over this read" line in post 109 because it's slightly contradictive to Vex being NAI/null-scam, but I'm sure he'll clarify that in time.

As with Urap, I townread him. I don't believe this is his scumgame. Here's what I think is Urap's case on Vex;

- Intro ping about mech (rvs-serious vote)
- Unvote on post 27
- Disagreement with the idea of hypoclaiming
- Disagreement on talking spec and meta (revote)
- no longer scumreads Vex off of my case? (unvote)

Taking from Vex's post 134 bolded text;

"give me and everyone else your reasoning why you decided to ignore the rest of my argument"

oh, why did i ignore the rest?

It didn't look townie, but I couldn't in good faith make an argument that it was scummy

some things, i believe, are in both the average scum range and the average town range. That's what we call "Not alignment indicative"

"have a complete 180 turn-around on your read of me and call me scummy based on two points."

Feels like it's just Urap's style to jump around a lot. Likewise he voted me because I didn't answer one of his questions (and unvoted once I did), so I don't think this is scum-indicative of him.

"also, id like you to point out exactly what i have said that is "scum who thinks they've been caught for a bad reason"

TvT who's been focusing on eachother too much. As town genuinely have to solve and make activity, town are more likely to appear scummy eariler than scam, I think. Vex, I believe you're also aware of this. The third statement in post 176 I believe.

[PvtUrist]

Time to scamcase

With Mr.no lunch, the initial impression to him was town. Being the first poster in thread is bold for scum, as unwanted attention would've likely been brought to him, and his latter posts have been

alright

.

So why is nl scam? Well, upon a reread of his ISO, it literally only consists of the lovely initial post, and

alright

. I'd love for people to explain their townreads on nl, as I'll explain my scumread on him.

-Intro is NAI, pinged wifom after re-read.

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

^feels feigned. Vote is SvS but in RVS so probably people wouldn't have taken it seriously.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

Vex is town. Please find somewhere else to focus.

^please clarify. This pings scum coasting and trying to gain townpoints without actually solving.

I do not intend to approach this setup with my usual level of curiosity and enthusiasm. Would anybody be interested in explaining why I am being voted?

^

scumslip?

because people scamread.

Thoughts so far? Ico is definitely acting suspicious ngl. Setup discussion makes you slight townlean for me since I think that sharing that info around (in a setup like this that's being played for the first time - correct me if I'm wrong) helps us more than RVS

Thank you for stealing my two reads.
Iconeum is conspicuously not town. Vex is conspicuously town.

^likewise with post 93

Alright, fair enough
UNVOTE: nl
What makes you suspect urap if I may ask?

I do not see a purpose for unvoting me in 172. Why did you do this?

^first post that actually promotes interaction with and benefits town.

[PvtUrist]

A collection of nl's

alright

posts so far;

Spoiler: much text

VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.

everyone in this thread so far is town btw

UNVOTE:

I am dubious about whether this is town.
Otherwise, generally I agree.

VOTE: urap2 guess who's here and hasn't checked their role pm yet

Do not do this.

@nl i can explain why i find urap townie in a min if you want
@urap elsas 46 also kinda feels townie, but its a bit of stating the obvious + some faulty logic (imo)

Yes, please.

pleasure to see you again, btw

likewise.

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

Iconeum, are you mafia or tp?

Did we?
I work in mysterious ways.

tl;dr why nl is scam;
1) null-posts that don't benefit town
2) speaks of scum/townreads without any further explaination
3) SvS interaction with other scamread (will elaborate)
4) PoE

Here's my interpretation of nl's readlist so far, I would love if he'd clarify his reasoning;
{vex, urist} town
{everyone else} not stated
{urap, ico} scam

[no lunch]

PvtUrist is not mafia.

[Elsa Jay]

About 4 days left. Frankly I kinda forgot why I voted Vex and kept it there so long so I'm unvoting and rereading again. Maybe I'll vote the same but I gotta think about it.

[Elsa Jay]

UNVOTE:

Tfw you say you'll unvote but forget to do it in the same post.

[Vex Vience]

im busy today, (bf coming over), but i did quickly skim the thread and pvt is town imo.
ill explain more when i have some time to.