Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

[Creature]

wouldn't be surprised if skitter was killed for having good mafia reads.

[Creature]

Also it should be a red flag that A50 isn't even being pushed rn

[Creature]

Persivul – 4/9 – Skygazer, Shoshin, Vorkuta, Irrelephant11

i still townread everyone on here except maybe irrel but i don't really think persi is scum here so

[davesaz]

That's Titus slot btw.

[Creature]

Yeh, Persi = Titus

but Penguin = A50

skitter was pushing Penguin almost all D1

[Creature]

keeping the vote streak going because why not
VOTE: pp

[Creature]

VOTE: Penguin

VOTE: penguin

I wanted to point out PP lurking possibly being AI but you beat me to it.
VOTE: PenguinPower

keeping the vote streak going because why not
VOTE: pp

VOTE: penguin

VOTE: PenguinPower

uh though

[Aristophanes]

VC tn mebbe

[davesaz]

Look at what happens after the Persivul and PP wagons.
That's the main reason I've already said that wagons point to both slots being scum on opposite teams.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Roster

Everyone should post before a hammer, but other than that I'm fine with a short day. We already have 70 pages of material to work with, and anything from roster's buddies will just be wifom now.

I think Titus isn't mafia here.

Are you kidding me? There was an explicit guilty on roster on D2!

[Almost50]

I think you can exclude chen, Titus and me from being mafia

We may be wolf? Maybe, but we're not looking for the wolf today anyway

You lost me. Please explain why you/Titus can't be Mafia!

[Almost50]

because honestly; my best guess for a Mafia duo would be you + Titus

[davesaz]

I think Creature's posting is really shallow the past 2 pages or so.

The excessive shallowness in the game is causing me trouble. If Baezu is scum someone should have a case. If my cases are right then people should look at them, and if they're wrong they should be able to refute them. It's all handwaving. I went along with the Dunn wagon because he matched the "isn't doing solving -> scum" tell. Yes, that's wrong in retrospective. But it's still bothersome that

everyone

seemed to be using the same reason.

Town need to step it up here and actually case people. It's our game to win but we need to actually win it.

[davesaz]

EBWOP "was going along with" -- hammer fell before I got the chance, as often happens lol.

[Creature]

VOTE: Roster

Everyone should post before a hammer, but other than that I'm fine with a short day. We already have 70 pages of material to work with, and anything from roster's buddies will just be wifom now.

I think Titus isn't mafia here.

Are you kidding me? There was an explicit guilty on roster on D2!

The "We already have 70 pages blah blah blah" got me.

[Creature]

I think you can exclude chen, Titus and me from being mafia

We may be wolf? Maybe, but we're not looking for the wolf today anyway

You lost me. Please explain why you/Titus can't be Mafia!

I can say that I've been pushing rosterfoster in a way unlikely to ever come from buddies.

[Creature]

because honestly; my best guess for a Mafia duo would be you + Titus

maybe you're just mafia refusing to bus your buddy then.

[Creature]

If Baezu is scum someone should have a case.

I quoted some Baezu posts that are pretty horrible. You can check them yourself.

[Creature]

Town need to step it up here and actually case people.

When I do, it's shallow obviously.

[Creature]

It's our game to win but we need to actually win it.

Oh look, a cheerleader

[davesaz]

I didn't pay much attention before this point. There may be stuff but a relatively recent clear read indication seemed to be a good place to start.

Gonna go with Baezu town.

Fuscosco, Baezu, Vorkuta, Almost50, DuckDuckJab

We're lynching in here unless one of them decides to claim last wolf.

Town directly to lynching in here?

Hmm

I have these people to sort:
Titus
Baezu
Fuscosco
davesaz
DuckDuckJab
Almost50

To needing to sort. Well, reads do change so I'll withhold judgment on the switch.

Baezu is hella lynchbait ffs

Still town eh?

You are white knighting the fuck out of baezu.

Yeh, I think Baezu is lynchbait too.

Is dave scummy for whiteknighting scum!Baezu or is dave scummy just for the whiteknighting?

Still lynchbait (== town)?

VOTE: roster

I was already FoSing him

and if there’s a guilty then it’s pretty much a no brainer

Gonna check the veracity of this.

And did you? I don't see evidence in the remainder of your posts, but leaving open the possibility that you looked but didn't say anything.

VOTE: rosterfoster

Please Explain

Oopsie doopsie

I've given you advice before on this type of post. Say why it's an oopsie. When you don't it makes other people look and then guess if what they're seeing is the same as what you're seeing. They'll still want to verify your opinion is correct but it gives them something to compare to.

Yup chemist is where it’s at

VOTE: chemist

Oops

Same comment. Yeah we know chemist flipped town, but what specifically about this post makes it bad? What's the scum motivation compared to town just accepting the common consensus? (Note, I have not looked at when this happened. I'm asking you to say what you think.)

If Baezu is scum someone should have a case.

I quoted some Baezu posts that are pretty horrible. You can check them yourself.

OK, I checked them. You commented but didn't give reasons beyond the commentary. And your read here is flapping about a lot.
Changing reads are towny but I'm standing by the shallowness argument for now. Open to being convinced you're actually seeing something and not merely scum trying to justify accepting a lynch.
And I'm still missing the cases from other people who got us to this point.

If Baezu is scum I can be led to it with proper explanation. I'm not a lemming though, so racing toward a cliff without reason is not going to draw me in.

[Creature]

How tf didn't you notice 2755 is directly a follow up for 2754?

[Creature]

I've given you advice before on this type of post.

but I missed it

[Creature]

Say why it's an oopsie.

The post before I quoted and bolded the part Baezu said she scumread rosterfoster. I used "oopsie" to show Baezu wasn't actually scumreading rosterfoster, but rather decided to shade my vote on roster.

[Creature]

Yeah we know chemist flipped town, but what specifically about this post makes it bad?

It feels opportunistic.

What's the scum motivation compared to town just accepting the common consensus?

Not really that much, but it gets some scum points when compared to what else Baezu has been doing this game.