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[Egix96]

Im vla until Tuesday, sorry guys

Goodbye other me

I mostly just wanna chill this weekend but if anyone wants anything from me, ask away, I'll check back later.

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VC 2.05

Sashaddin (2):

bob3141 887, Garmr 1022

Egix96 (1):

Exilon 1043

Garmr (1):

Sashaddin 860

Exilon (1):

skitter30 1160

bob3141 (1):

Ausuka 1191

Ausuka (1):

u r a person 2 1238

Not Voting:

Lil Uzi Vert, Egix96, Inferno390 1030, High Risk Gamble 1170

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-05-17 19:00:00)

[Garmr]

VC 2.05

Sashaddin (2):

bob3141 887, Garmr 1022

Egix96 (1):

Exilon 1043

Garmr (1):

Sashaddin 860

Exilon (1):

skitter30 1160

bob3141 (1):

Ausuka 1191

Ausuka (1):

u r a person 2 1238

Not Voting:

Lil Uzi Vert, Egix96, Inferno390 1030, High Risk Gamble 1170

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-05-17 19:00:00)

What I find interesting is the wagons are spread out which could mean a number of things. It's quite a contrast to yesterday where their was like 2-3 wagons where everyone was.

[u r a person 2]

What I find interesting is the wagons are spread out which could mean a number of things. It's quite a contrast to yesterday where their was like 2-3 wagons where everyone was.

I think this gamestate is illustrative of two things

1) Some town slot(s) are holding strong, vocal town reads on scum
2) scum is sitting back because town can't get on the same page

I've been trying to nudge us out of this, but there is a lot of inertia in this game

Does that feel right to anyone?

[u r a person 2]

@Teacher I haven't updated my wiki in a while, so I'm not sure if you're aware of this game. I think you'll go back to finding obvious town reads on me after glancing through it.

I actually don't expect you to need it this game, but my personality read on you is that you'll appreciate having it

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79139

I'm basically all of the draco lucky posts

[u r a person 2]

yikes wrong game

[bob3141]

hope to get caught up before end of today. wed- fri i dont have much spare time after work. but i do try and make up for it the weekends

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: bob

this is where my heart truly is.

maybe a new perspective from the IC-slot will kick this game into gear

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Detective Pikachu replaces Lil Uzi Vert

[Detective Pikachu]

I'm pretty sure scum is on the leading wagon. OR scum is on the other wagons. OR scum is not voting. Or scum isn't voting. Or there is no scum! Wait, no, that last one doesn't work at all

Anything interesting I should know? I somehow didn't even know I was IC before taking the slot lol

[skitter30]

UNVOTE: Skitter

why don't u think i'm scum anymore?
what do u think of exilon?

Well I still a few marked up to read but you seem very one tracked minded and a lot more direct as scum. I'm sure the effort if pit in 100% but you come off as less caring to how the game state is as scum.

Here although I'm disagreeing with a lot of what your saying the posting style is very different and although I think the questions look/appear like they lack genuine attitude you're not just sitting on a read and trying to skim by.

I'm confident enough to not vote you for now.

Exilon I really like as town.

@urap like this is kinda what i was expecting him to say when i asked him why he unvoted me - this just isn't the sort of read reversal taht comes from scum ^^^

[skitter30]

a) #ISaidIFelt
What I meant is I feel you're dismissing the analysis in a way that comes across as a bit dishonest to me. At certain points you agree with the analysis I make but you still don't see the conclusions as more likely and while it's all a a bit ambiguous (in the sense is actions can be mostly seen from both perspectives it seems), your conclusion to the content is basically "well I can see town doing that, sooooooooooooo"
Which is basically the argument you bring up for me, "I can see myself making posts like that as scum, sooooooo", (which is already terrible enough on its own, re: projecting) and then you vote for me, and not him, so it all feels like unfairly biased for what is essentially you being arbitrary about it. If we're both nullreads to you, what is tilting you to be pushing me instead of him? Projection? Bias? What am I missing here?

i didn't really agree with your analysis so much as saying that i don't know if it's wrong but i don't see any compelling reason why i should believe your pov more than my own

and most of what you're drawing out i don't think is ai here so like ... why should i find your case compelling

i don't entirely understand the dichtomy you're drawing (ie why you're saying i'm being unfairly biased in voting you over him)

i don't see any reason to scumread him. i think you're trying to make him look scummy off of things that arent' ai. so i'm voting you.

His latest post confirms my interpretation and denies yours. Essentially, he was sheeping his top scumread. Town does this??

tbh yes sometimes
but yes, i agree, his sheeping does look worse in that context

To reiterate, I post a summary + analysis;
You say it's information instead of analysis, which is a content-argument;
I apply that logic to show it's not, disproving your claim, which should force you to reconsider it instead of dismissing it;
You change into an emotion-argument to keep dismissing it.

My point here isn't what is or isn't, it's how you're doing it.

i mean it was always an emotion-argument, sometimes i just actually attach words to the emotions instead of just declaring things to be bad on gut

i read it multiple times. i don't think it's really analysis beyond summary

By supporting a scum agenda I mean his actions have been harmful to town.

taht's what i thought but i wasn't sure
and my counterargument is that town do that sort of thing too - if only scum did things harmful to town the game would be remarkably easy.
you haven't shown why it's *more* likely that what he did came from scum than town

[skitter30]

ooooh it is ausuka scum, huh

VOTE: ausuka

I dunno how i missed the over-explaining

but this would also make a shit ton of sense for how I'm interpreting this gamestate rn

yeah idk i'm thinkign this might be a thing too

[skitter30]

(not the overexplaining so much as idk where scum is so i feel like i should put more of an effort into trying to firm up my read on ausuka and atm she's kinda ~null)

[skitter30]

What I find interesting is the wagons are spread out which could mean a number of things. It's quite a contrast to yesterday where their was like 2-3 wagons where everyone was.

yeah this feels like we aren't anywhere close to getting a scum lynch today

i kinda want to wagon exilon still but if i can't make that a thing for some inexplicable reason i'll try this

VOTE: ausuka

@hrg why is exilon town?

[skitter30]

Detective Pikachu replaces Lil Uzi Vert

hello!

wrt the game:
ikd the game feels weirdly stalled
sash was pusehd for most of the day yesterday (with rui and urap counterwagons) and for reasons quite beyond me rui got lynched over sash (since sash had claimed vt and rui hadn't claimed and was a lurker i felt like sash was always the correct lynch there)
i kinda think that sash is lynchbait at this point
channel inexplicably died last night (over your slot even, which is really fucking weird)

i don't know where scum is rn

[u r a person 2]

I'm pretty sure scum is on the leading wagon. OR scum is on the other wagons. OR scum is not voting. Or scum isn't voting. Or there is no scum! Wait, no, that last one doesn't work at all

Anything interesting I should know? I somehow didn't even know I was IC before taking the slot lol

This is basically an ideal situation to come into as a replacement IC.

There's no real consensus as scum and the game is not progressing

If you were to come in here with a strong opinion of scum I think there's a strong chance you could basically decide the lynch.

And we could use the help.

[Detective Pikachu]

This is true. I am hoping to be able to properly focus on the game on Monday, in the mean time I'm mostly hoping to see who people will suggest we lynch to someone with a completely fresh perspective that has not (and will not, until Monday) read the game

[u r a person 2]

This is true. I am hoping to be able to properly focus on the game on Monday, in the mean time I'm mostly hoping to see who people will suggest we lynch to someone with a completely fresh perspective that has not (and will not, until Monday) read the game

bob

[Detective Pikachu]

Why? Is bob your uncle?

[Egix96]

VOTE: Ausuka

Yeah I don't really like the way that she pushed on bob, 1191 specifically.

[Ausuka]

be more specific. what don't you like about it?

[Egix96]

be more specific. what don't you like about it?

I find it a bit scummy that you described 948 as being stretchy and forced, rather than just calling it out as being a loaded question.

And I can easily envision (inexperiencedTown)!bob thinking that asking a specifically-phrased loaded question in an attempt to bait a scummy response, would be a valid strategy. (Not saying that I personally would recommend it, but still.)

[u r a person 2]

Why? Is bob your uncle?

I felt his recent set of analysis felt like he was doing it for the sake of being seen as doing it rather than him actually trying to scum hunt.

[bob3141]

Why? Is bob your uncle?

I felt his recent set of analysis felt like he was doing it for the sake of being seen as doing it rather than him actually trying to scum hunt.

I find this a bit of reach reason considering i was already scum hunting.