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[Almost50]

Hello folks. I;m scum. Lynch me

[Almost50]

Actually, scratch that. Just tell me who we mislynching today and I'm game. It's always better to bait the investigators on N1, so as to protect my scum buddies from being caught.

[Almost50]

I';ll get back to this is a few... for now.. carry on.

[Almost50]

Alright, I'm dead tired, but I made it up to page #77, so SLOW DOWN YOUR POSTING PACE until I'm all caught up.

So, skitter is confirmed. That's a relief (I'm disappointed of the reaction to my entrance, but then again I probably shouldn't have expected anything else)

Based on the reaction to my entrance I can call BEF, TLK, ofrhz, Enigma & Boom "Solid TRs". I could of course add FB to the same pool if I had ANY idea of how to read him. (Been well over a year I think since we last

fought

played together)

I am also disappointed in FL, but then I can't be sure about his alignment yet. I'll go into more details in the morrow, but for now I want to know where exactly have you seen me claim scum (as scum) in my first post before? Yeah, I know you're basing the read on what YOU would do, except we don't play SCUM alike (its our TOWN games that are very much alike).

I also dislike LUV & Vork reactions, but I am not sure yet what to make of them defending me then joining my wagon!!

I have no comment on anyone else, except that I'm glad it wasn't my ODOR that draws Saudade to SR me. I mean, he was already calling for the lynch of the slot before I replaced in, so it's nothing personal. It's just destiny.

@skitter: So you played scummy.. intentionally .. to execute a gambit and gather readings.. and it didn't occur to you that >I< would/might do something similar????????????

[Almost50]

pedit: As I wrote that question I answered it myself with a "Yes, A50 could do something like that"

Yeah, but this game is a normal, so I can't be a scum PGO!

[Almost50]

I almost forgot who Tet really was. Add him to the Town block.

Initial readlist:

TOWN: The Last Knight, BEF, ofrhz, BoomBoom, Enigma, Creature, Tet,
Likely Town: Firebringer,
Possibly-maybe-town: LucianRoy,
Saudade: Saudade
Questionable for now: Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, Lil Uzi Vert, NerfedBuJ,
No idea: Baezu

I am falling asleep, so leave any questions with my secretary (and a generous donation cheque gets you higher on the priority list)

[Almost50]

@A50, hypothetical: there's an hour left in the Day, and you're top wagon, who do we cfd?

Acceptable wagons are: Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, Lil Uzi Vert, NerfedBuJ. Well, maybe not FL (not on D1). Feel free to add me if you really SR me.

Wait but enigma hasn’t posted since your entrance?

So? I thought the readlist he posted shortly before I posted was good enough. Some of my reads changed according to my reaction test, but some haven't. For instance, Saudade and Lucian were already leading the wagon on my slot, so nothing really changed about them.

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@skitter: So you played scummy.. intentionally .. to execute a gambit and gather readings.. and it didn't occur to you that >I< would/might do something similar????????????

Were u aware of anything that happened in this game when you made your entrance?

I had skimmed like 20-30 pages or so. (I repeat: Skimmed.. as in glossed over the pages giving each a minute or two at max).

[Almost50]

@skitter: So you played scummy.. intentionally .. to execute a gambit and gather readings.. and it didn't occur to you that >I< would/might do something similar????????????

Were u aware of anything that happened in this game when you made your entrance?

Also why are you disappointed in my reaction?

because we've been through similar situations numerous times before and

every single time

we agree post-game that you should leave me alone on D1 and come back to inspect me on D2. We both know well that I am both high on the NK and the investigation lists. If I'm bot dead on N1 there's a good chance an investigative would have checked me. Right? Why waste your time and effort on me when you know at least half of this players list is going to have their eyes on me night and day? In fact, the only 2 I'm not familiar with are Lucian & Boom. You think BuJ wouldn't check me? You think ofrhz wouldn't? FL? How about YOU?? Would I not be your N1 check (OK, YOU may wait for N2.. obviously). The point is you and I have a history about this specific subject that I'm finding it boring to repeat myself once again.

[Almost50]

Also vork's pretty scummy imo

I'm glad that people are starting to SR vork. But why aren't the votes coming in?

Cuz I'm a top priority sort. Sort of. My predecessors obviously didn't town it up enough (and it may or may not have been for a good reason), but my entrance gave everyone the freaks.

Now imagine if I had posted "Hi folks. Nice to meet you all again." and stopped at that. You think that would have prevented anyone from suspecting me?? Nope!

How about if I said "Hi. I am Mason!". No difference.

In short, me claiming a Mason apparently is the same as claiming Scum.

[Almost50]

Full disclosure- a game (BooneyTunez XI) that a bunch of us were in has just finished so who knows what he has on me

A game in which you were a scum beard who confirmed a scumster as town to me, thus making me fully trust them (because I play the game

with a mechanical approach

)? Is that the game you mean? I had a chance (regardless how small of a chance that was) to prevent the NK because Sky was a VT and my role (Neighborizing Bunyip) should have protected her from a Night kill. And guess what? I fully claimed to RAS in our PT with Sky after you confirmed him.

P.S. I never had the intention to even make a mention of that game here, but you brought it up and I had to. I never even posted in the game thread after it was over!

[Almost50]

Why do i get a category of me own

Because you're too sexy to be put with anyone else! (You are making a big mistake... I vended the 2 dead people and I don't feel like fighting against my lych so someone else should defend me... ring any bells??)

[Almost50]

Typical scum mentality

I rest my case.

[Almost50]

He's deepwolf, nothing we can do rn.

I'm kind of confused what you mean when you call Saudade "deepwolf" and how it affects pushes on him. Like a definition of the term is probably all I need. Because I have an idea of what you mean here but I just want to make sure.

deepwolf: a scum player who is being widely town read. It makes pushing then harder and is likely to backfire on the player(s) pushing them.

[Almost50]

I'll sheep

FL/Skitter/Saudade and actually activate later on

Please don't, and I'm not even arguing FL/Saudade's alignment here. Just don't sheep anyone and make your own judgements. (If you're going to make a mistake, at least make one that you can learn from. Now what do you learn from sheeping someone who is either wrong or is playing you?)

[Almost50]

Why waste your time and effort on me when you know at least half of this players list is going to have their eyes on me night and day?

Hi I'm new here
Should I have my eyes on you?

Yes. Definitely. The #1 rule of playing with me is to be afraid of me (as either alignment). If you're town you don't know which alignment I am, so you should be wary, and if you're scum you do know I am playing against you, so you still need to be wary of me.

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@a50 u know that i'm mostly voting u for your predecessors, right?

Seriously? OK.. I won't even argue here. Can you honestly show me ONE post made by either Krazy or Ank that deserved a vote?? Because I did read their posts and I don't see any bad play at all.

[Almost50]

I mean I think it's common courtesy to divulge some things, especially seeing as how our reads of each other are most definitely going to be affected by that game.

That was done without my consent, and the 2 players responsible for that already had a nice successful gambit as town in a PREVIOUS game (BTX) that I was part of. Several characters in the game would've given me a really hard and painful time so I decided to just roll over and go with the flow. (Kind of what I'm doing right now hmmmm)

Like, I don't want to turn this game to a discussion thread of a previous game, so maybe we can talk about that later. My point is simple:

Learn from that mistake

.

P.S. None of us was born a good Mafia player. I personally do not even consider myself to be a good player, but I do have my moments of brilliance. God knows I made some horrible moves (and I still may do occasionally) but I try to learn from them. That's all.

P.S.2 Another game has just ended that I was in, and I played like shit, but we still won because the other townies did well and scum were unlucky.

[Almost50]

P.S. I never had the intention to even make a mention of that game here,

Have I opened up some floodgates?

No. Just forget we ever played that game.

[Almost50]

Wat case

That fluffposting+not doing anything solvey is a scum tactic. << THAT was exactly why you got lynched in the previous game.

[Almost50]

There was another game where I just sheeped a solid town player to victory and it turned out quite well.

So, are you saying your play style is being a sheep? Why not be "the player being sheeped by the new players"?

[Almost50]

Hell you're a mechanical player- the odds of randomly rolling a die and picking 1 player to just blindly assume is conf!100%town are quite favorable no?

Yep. And so are the odds of them being wrong... rolling a dice themselves!

[Almost50]

You've scared me waay to much with your WIFOM "I'm scum" that I don't buy that it's a "hey I'm acting scummy to draw out scum".

Suit yourself. You''l either learn or quit in time. Either is fine by me.

[Almost50]

Personally I think i am

gods gift

to mafia

Amen to that. When you're town (and I think I only played you as Town), you sure are Santa Claus to the Mafia team.

[Almost50]

If scum slips up, someone else will spot it. If I have a gut read, someone else will have a better gut read.

Man, you really are selling yourself way too short. Again, suit yourself. To each their own. *Shrug*

[Almost50]

I mean, it's hard to argue with someone who has such low self-esteem/confidence.

[Almost50]

I repped into a game 100 pages in and tbh couldnt care less

Using the same logic; I repped into this one with 70 ages in. Maybe I shouldn't give a rat's fart either.

[Almost50]

Get on my level you little shite

You don't want to go down that route. Trust me. Let's be civil and play the game properly.

[Almost50]

That's... not how probability works...

No comment.

[Almost50]

Does anyone else have anything to talk to/with me about? And I mean something related to THIS game? TBH, Saudade is too

boring

sexy for me to keep this duel going.

[Almost50]

skitter30 (1): Almost50

lolAlmost

Now that you mention it, I did realize the vote was on the IC, but I didn't bother moving it because it obviously isn't going anywhere. It was as good as me unvoting, so I wanted to wait till I devided whom I wanted to vote.

On another note:

@Baezu: Any particular reason to go with your most recent vote on me??

[Almost50]

@Sau how committed are you to this creature vote?

Anyone not seeing this is Town!Creature in his purest form is (a) Bad, (b) Scum, or (c) doesn't know Creature at all.

[Almost50]

I just skimmed the Airrick/creature iso and I don't think I like what I see. He flip-flopped on my slot at least twice from gut reading me town, to not, to trusting Sau's read, to me being his first vote all week for... I wouldn't know. He also flipped on Sau?

And flip flopping on D1 is a scum tell for Creature because..??

[Almost50]

A Baezu flip spews A50's alignment. So I'm super good with that.

?? What's the correlation?

[Almost50]

Hey friends and enemies of all ages! I don't know what going on at all and I only saw the playerlist, but is the Fish with Bright Eyes on the table or nah?

Big NAH!

Also, hi..

Also also.. If I get NK'd on N1 it was you .. or someone trying to frame you. If I don't die on N1 it was either you trying to pocket me .. or you're not scum!

How about that for analysis?

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Posting any highlights would be nice though.

I'm not exactly fashion literate, but I think this should do.

[Almost50]

uhhhhhh is it normal for you to tell people not to sheep?

It should be normal when I tell Vork not to sheep after he was "forced" to fake-confirm a scum as a friendly neighbor in the game that has just ended because he trusted the scum and a 3P player in his neighborhood.

[Almost50]

I hope everyone enjoys my latest vote count

I could've used a little bit more syrup, but all-in-all it tasted exceptionally well. Thank you.

[Almost50]

skitter30 (1): Almost50

lolAlmost

Now that you mention it, I did realize the vote was on the IC, but I didn't bother moving it because it obviously isn't going anywhere. It was as good as me unvoting, so I wanted to wait till I devided whom I wanted to vote.

On another note:

@Baezu: Any particular reason to go with your most recent vote on me??

it's scum indicative not inherently because you're voting me but because i think town!you would have made a real vote by now

I want to lynch Saudade, but that looks like a farfetched thought for now. I want to get FL but I certainly won't vote him on D1. I want to vote Baezu but I sense she'll replace out when her wagon grows and then we'll all have to switch our votes elsewhere anyway.

And now I'm getting the feeling Vork is town who's being anti-town and I don't want to hurt his self-esteem any further.

But here goes...

VOTE: Baezu

[Almost50]

I’m not sheeping Skitter?

You're sheeping

In fact..

VOTE: Vork

It is really really hypocritical of you to accuse anyone of sheeping and be upset about it too after you had publicly admitted that you're doing nothing but sheeping.

[Almost50]

^My vote stays until I see you doing something on your own.

[Almost50]

uhhhhhh is it normal for you to tell people not to sheep?

It should be normal when I tell Vork not to sheep after he was "forced" to fake-confirm a scum as a friendly neighbor in the game that has just ended because he trusted the scum and a 3P player in his neighborhood.

Fair, but you specifically told him not to sheep me/fl/saudade - three people who incidentally happened to be pushing you at the time; it kinda came off as you telling him not to sheep since you don't wany more voted on you

Of course I don't want more votes on me. This isn't even AI and you know it. As town I much prefer to get NK'd, and as scum I don't want to be lynched on D1. So what's your point?

Also, aside from you I don't even trust Saudade/FL, and even if they were mod-confirmed somehow I know my own alignment so all 3 of you have a bad read on my slot. You may not see it because you don't have access to my role PM, but many thought you were scum before you were confirmed and only you knew for a fact that their reads were bad. (Whether they were town!bad or scum!bad is the question, but it is now common knowledge that they were BAD).

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This is a joke yes?
I give you an elsa case ON MY OWN with skitters blessing and this is how you treat me?

Mate, EJ is one off those players I won't consider lynching on D1 regardless. For one thing, he's adorable and funny. For another, he is also one of those who just love to gamble/gambit as either alignment.

I'll give you a hint: In Overkill 1 (a game I was modding) he claimed Town Doctor .. as a Survivor!!! But he was also a HIDER, so he was actually being more townie than many explicitly town-aligned players. You should not only read the game, but -maybe more interesting- what the modding team comments in our PMs were. WE (the moderators) didn't know what he was doing for half the time the game lasted.

I promise you his slot will be resolved through night action one way or another (and not necessarily by him flipping, but by who gets killed as well as investigative results.. etc).

In short, there are certain players you just don't touch on D1 no matter what. On D2/D3 if they are still alive you go back and ISO to get an accurate read. EJ (and FL) belong to that group of players.

[Almost50]

Whatever this is your day today skitter im not getting creature

mislynched

without you

OK, so this is for the likes of BuJ: WHY does the bolded not give you an erection like my scum claim did? And it's not the first time too. Saudade threatened to "mis"lynch VEF earlier this game. It's as if he's informed of their alignments already, but is being jokey about it.

To everyone else: Why would someone push a wagon AND publicly admit it's a "mislynch"?

[Almost50]

Creature is brushing all my posts about him I guess?

VOTE: A50

Scum were about to bus, and the Vork train is a last ditch effort to save their buddy, A50. Mic drop.

Can you please name who was bussing and is now pushing Vork?? Thank you.

[Almost50]

Well screw you too on that, I just wanted to lynch the 4 headed Hydra gone and I didn't want the Seer to check me. The fact the 4 headed hydra wad not only the seer but also checked a Mafia claim is on them.

Is my memory going bad (or is) or did the Mafia (you) actually win that game eventually??

[Almost50]

Can you please name who was bussing and is now pushing Vork?? Thank you.

Almost50 (6): LucianRoy, skitter30, Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, NerfedBuJ, Lil Uzi Vert
Vorkuta (6): The Last Knight, Lil Uzi Vert, Elsa Jay, Almost50, BrightEyedFish, BoomBoom

Wagons at their peaks, LUV is the only person on both of them...
Hmm

Thank you. So, 2 scums were bussing, and 2 others are trying to save me? Wait. I am one of the "other two". I guess that makes Vork my p who was bussing and is now last resorting to save me. Cool. We need one more scum on each wagon (assuming scum team is 4-members as is standard in a 17-players setup)

[Almost50]

*LUV, not Vork.

[Almost50]

could he have known this from some other source (ie you played a game with him on this account?)

No. I saw FL suggesting it was RCE and I saw Tet res[pmd with "I hate you" so I found out it was really him. Not biochemistry!

[Almost50]

I just want to say that X is definitely town, where X is a player name from the players list of this game (other than skitter, apparently, or this will be old news).

[Almost50]

@A50- why are you still on me?

Show me another viable wagon at this time.

[Almost50]

Wait what? Who's townreading A50?

Buj said he was confident I am flipping green but he is policy voting me for the scum claim.

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50 your move then.

Look. You're a good friend, so I'd hate to misspell your name. Like, RCI instead of E isn't becoming, is it?

[Almost50]

Yaaaay! WE WIN (due to the new rule I've just installed)