Large Normal 220: Jazz Mafia [Game Over!]

[Skygazer]

VC 1.32

Vorkuta (6): The Last Knight, Lil Uzi Vert, Elsa Jay, Almost50, BrightEyedFish, BoomBoom
Almost50 (4): Flavor Leaf, NerfedBuJ, Baezu, LucianRoy
LucianRoy (3): Creature, ofrhz, Enigma
Elsa Jay (3): Vorkuta, skitter30, Saudade
Baezu (1): Tet

Not Voting (0):

With 17 alive, it take 9 to lynch. Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-21 11:30:00).

Mod notes: page 100!!

[Almost50]

uhhhhhh is it normal for you to tell people not to sheep?

It should be normal when I tell Vork not to sheep after he was "forced" to fake-confirm a scum as a friendly neighbor in the game that has just ended because he trusted the scum and a 3P player in his neighborhood.

Fair, but you specifically told him not to sheep me/fl/saudade - three people who incidentally happened to be pushing you at the time; it kinda came off as you telling him not to sheep since you don't wany more voted on you

Of course I don't want more votes on me. This isn't even AI and you know it. As town I much prefer to get NK'd, and as scum I don't want to be lynched on D1. So what's your point?

Also, aside from you I don't even trust Saudade/FL, and even if they were mod-confirmed somehow I know my own alignment so all 3 of you have a bad read on my slot. You may not see it because you don't have access to my role PM, but many thought you were scum before you were confirmed and only you knew for a fact that their reads were bad. (Whether they were town!bad or scum!bad is the question, but it is now common knowledge that they were BAD).

[NerfedBuJ]

uhhhhhh is it normal for you to tell people not to sheep?

It should be normal when I tell Vork not to sheep after he was "forced" to fake-confirm a scum as a friendly neighbor in the game that has just ended because he trusted the scum and a 3P player in his neighborhood.

Fair, but you specifically told him not to sheep me/fl/saudade - three people who incidentally happened to be pushing you at the time; it kinda came off as you telling him not to sheep since you don't wany more voted on you

Of course I don't want more votes on me. This isn't even AI and you know it. As town I much prefer to get NK'd, and as scum I don't want to be lynched on D1. So what's your point?

Also, aside from you I don't even trust Saudade/FL, and even if they were mod-confirmed somehow I know my own alignment so all 3 of you have a bad read on my slot. You may not see it because you don't have access to my role PM, but many thought you were scum before you were confirmed and only you knew for a fact that their reads were bad. (Whether they were town!bad or scum!bad is the question, but it is now common knowledge that they were BAD).

You weren't here for it so I guess you're excused but considering she was making a conscious effort to play scummily, the people who townread her look far worse than those who scumread her. And I'm not just saying that as one of the latter.

[Almost50]

This is a joke yes?
I give you an elsa case ON MY OWN with skitters blessing and this is how you treat me?

Mate, EJ is one off those players I won't consider lynching on D1 regardless. For one thing, he's adorable and funny. For another, he is also one of those who just love to gamble/gambit as either alignment.

I'll give you a hint: In Overkill 1 (a game I was modding) he claimed Town Doctor .. as a Survivor!!! But he was also a HIDER, so he was actually being more townie than many explicitly town-aligned players. You should not only read the game, but -maybe more interesting- what the modding team comments in our PMs were. WE (the moderators) didn't know what he was doing for half the time the game lasted.

I promise you his slot will be resolved through night action one way or another (and not necessarily by him flipping, but by who gets killed as well as investigative results.. etc).

In short, there are certain players you just don't touch on D1 no matter what. On D2/D3 if they are still alive you go back and ISO to get an accurate read. EJ (and FL) belong to that group of players.

[ofrhz]

Suddenly don’t like the composition of the A50 wagon.

Uh what? the composition of the a50 wagon didn’t really change all that much from when you voted?

I think only skitter unvoted and that was like the only movement on that wagon

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Suddenly don’t like the composition of the A50 wagon.

Uh what? the composition of the a50 wagon didn’t really change all that much from when you voted?

I think only skitter unvoted and that was like the only movement on that wagon

VOTE: A50

[Vorkuta]

Mate, EJ is one off those players I won't consider lynching on D1 regardless. For one thing, he's adorable and funny. For another, he is also one of those who just love to gamble/gambit as either alignment.

Ty for the meta read, now can others confirm?

[ofrhz]

its a combination of
ofrhzs vote i saw on you somewhere
and just generally on how we have completely opposite reads

If you're sheeping ofrhz's most recent vote, then it's lacking any apparent development from their read on me early early game.
Modern problems require modern explanations.

We do kinda have opposite reads, but my ace is skitter agreeing with the majority of mine, so in this case, I'd say

you're

the contrarian. Could you revisit your list in 1746? Possibly refine it? Your lynch pool is enormous, and I feel like a bunch of stuff has happened to hone reads on multiple players since.

My read on you is that you were scummy and I don’t think you’ve towned it up since

And I saw your response to my case didn’t change my mind either. In fact you didn’t even address the points in my case in your response

[ofrhz]

Suddenly don’t like the composition of the A50 wagon.

Uh what? the composition of the a50 wagon didn’t really change all that much from when you voted?

I think only skitter unvoted and that was like the only movement on that wagon

VOTE: A50

Ah that’s fair

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mate, EJ is one off those players I won't consider lynching on D1 regardless. For one thing, he's adorable and funny. For another, he is also one of those who just love to gamble/gambit as either alignment.

Ty for the meta read, now can others confirm?

I cannot. Has anyone played with Bambi Jay though?

[ofrhz]

I’d vote Elsa. I didn’t tr fb

But yes that metaread is fairly accurate

[ofrhz]

Bambi jay is even worse than Elsa in my experience
In terms of doing incomprehensible things just for the fun of it

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hm. We have had completely different experiences then.

[Elsa Jay]

Depends on the mood me and Bambi are in during a certain game, yeah.

[ofrhz]

Bambi jay is also bambietta
Or I think of them as one persona anyhow

[Almost50]

Whatever this is your day today skitter im not getting creature

mislynched

without you

OK, so this is for the likes of BuJ: WHY does the bolded not give you an erection like my scum claim did? And it's not the first time too. Saudade threatened to "mis"lynch VEF earlier this game. It's as if he's informed of their alignments already, but is being jokey about it.

To everyone else: Why would someone push a wagon AND publicly admit it's a "mislynch"?

[ofrhz]

Baezu didn’t vote for vork so that’s interesting

[Almost50]

Creature is brushing all my posts about him I guess?

VOTE: A50

Scum were about to bus, and the Vork train is a last ditch effort to save their buddy, A50. Mic drop.

Can you please name who was bussing and is now pushing Vork?? Thank you.

[Almost50]

Well screw you too on that, I just wanted to lynch the 4 headed Hydra gone and I didn't want the Seer to check me. The fact the 4 headed hydra wad not only the seer but also checked a Mafia claim is on them.

Is my memory going bad (or is) or did the Mafia (you) actually win that game eventually??

[Elsa Jay]

I wasn't Mafia, but they did win eventually. The Duck quick voted me after you went missing for 3 weeks.

[Vorkuta]

Can you please name who was bussing and is now pushing Vork?? Thank you.

Almost50 (6): LucianRoy, skitter30, Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, NerfedBuJ, Lil Uzi Vert
Vorkuta (6): The Last Knight, Lil Uzi Vert, Elsa Jay, Almost50, BrightEyedFish, BoomBoom

Wagons at their peaks, LUV is the only person on both of them...
Hmm

[LucianRoy]

Enh, it was probably preemptive on the bussing part. I wanted to be evocative. Still feel like Vork is the counterwagon more likely to have scum on it.

[Almost50]

Can you please name who was bussing and is now pushing Vork?? Thank you.

Almost50 (6): LucianRoy, skitter30, Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, NerfedBuJ, Lil Uzi Vert
Vorkuta (6): The Last Knight, Lil Uzi Vert, Elsa Jay, Almost50, BrightEyedFish, BoomBoom

Wagons at their peaks, LUV is the only person on both of them...
Hmm

Thank you. So, 2 scums were bussing, and 2 others are trying to save me? Wait. I am one of the "other two". I guess that makes Vork my p who was bussing and is now last resorting to save me. Cool. We need one more scum on each wagon (assuming scum team is 4-members as is standard in a 17-players setup)

[Almost50]

*LUV, not Vork.

[Vorkuta]

Mic drop

Shoot, I wanted to believe