Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[RCEnigma]

I was in OK2 with you where you claimed scum like 5 posts in but that's neither here nor there. The way persi framed his day 1 play, the low info gamestate, and compromising for a Lynch on someone he knows isn't town versus someone he hopes isn't town all point town.

[RCEnigma]

Even my townreads aren't really townreads but I'll put my eggs in the persi basket today so.

[Flavor Leaf]

I was in OK2 with you where you claimed scum like 5 posts in but that's neither here nor there. The way persi framed his day 1 play, the low info gamestate, and compromising for a Lynch on someone he knows isn't town versus someone he hopes isn't town all point town.

Disagree. I’ve been scum with him before. He knows I don’t post like this, and this is way different than OK2, so idk why you’re pushing it like it’s At all similar. Those were clearly joke posts.

[Flavor Leaf]

RCEnigma is scum here WK’ing if Persivul is town he only knows it because he already knows it, ya know?

[RCEnigma]

Persi is already universally townread. Don't push it like he's a slot that needs saving.

[RCEnigma]

If you say hatcheting btw I'm adding my vote.

[RCEnigma]

I was in OK2 with you where you claimed scum like 5 posts in but that's neither here nor there. The way persi framed his day 1 play, the low info gamestate, and compromising for a Lynch on someone he knows isn't town versus someone he hopes isn't town all point town.

Disagree. I’ve been scum with him before. He knows I don’t post like this, and this is way different than OK2, so idk why you’re pushing it like it’s At all similar. Those were clearly joke posts.

It's not relevant to this game except that I've seen poor early claims out of you. I'm not worried about you being 3p if we can mutually benefit by having you around. But I think persivul is town.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you say hatcheting btw I'm adding my vote.

I specifically stated WK’ing.

[Flavor Leaf]

I was in OK2 with you where you claimed scum like 5 posts in but that's neither here nor there. The way persi framed his day 1 play, the low info gamestate, and compromising for a Lynch on someone he knows isn't town versus someone he hopes isn't town all point town.

Disagree. I’ve been scum with him before. He knows I don’t post like this, and this is way different than OK2, so idk why you’re pushing it like it’s At all similar. Those were clearly joke posts.

It's not relevant to this game except that I've seen poor early claims out of you. I'm not worried about you being 3p if we can mutually benefit by having you around. But I think persivul is town.

I’ve never seen a poor early claim by me, so idk what this is referring to.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, my mason claim with Creature that one game was rough, but he just killed me right before I was gonna retract it and hard tunnel, so i actually don’t think that was a poor claim either, Creature just countered me.

[RCEnigma]

Was mostly just the scumclaim recovered by the pgo claim. Bef kind of derailed things. I still plan to take a page out of your book when I start playing with claim gambits.

[skitter30]

Thought you said you were town siding, help a guy out.

I just basically also win with town, so yeah, I’m town siding, just don’t screw me over, and I won’t screw you guys over, we end together.

i'm kinda conflicted on this because:

a) in a general sense idk if scum makes up this sort of claim upon their entrance to the game (and i'm assuming that town doesn't do this), but you're, like, you so this isn't really a good reason to give you towncred because i *can* see scum!you pulling something like this

b) if you are 3p idk what your wincon and idk if 'not screwing you over' will lead to *everyone else* getting screwed over

[skitter30]

Thought you said you were town siding, help a guy out.

I just basically also win with town, so yeah, I’m town siding, just don’t screw me over, and I won’t screw you guys over, we end together.

And why would we bargain with someone that has a “Best 3p player” banner under their name? You have to prove your loyalty, by lynching a scum.

I’ll lynch a scum.
I don’t have to prove anything, I said that I can be lynched, and I can achieve my wincon right after that for a dual victory.

ok who's scum then?

also, again, what do you think about rce?

[skitter30]

So I'm not incentivized to defend FL here but it's likely the worst Lynch for day 1 at least. I think persi voting there is town however, I'd prefer targeting scumreads over a slot that may not be a threat to town in the first place.

VOTE: Tris

you've convinced me that you're town but not really that Tris is scum but I'll sheep it.

uhhhhhh
is this talking to me?

this is ... not a good vote

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

Flavor Leaf please explain your win condition
I prefer a Smile lynch to a tris lynch and also am losing my townread on skitter for changing the lynch direction after smile’s crap scumcase on insomnia

it was a bad case
idk who march is and idk if it's a *scummy* case tho

[skitter30]

i don't know; i have to go back and check
of the scumgame and anuket i remember the scumgame better (i guess cuz it was more recent) so that's what i'm comparing against. i don't remember how the the towngame compares to the scumgame but i'll take a look at her iso in anuket again when i have a chance

did you get a chance to look?

when i pointed out that her game here looks similar to Anuket i was expecting some sort of explanation as to why it also looking similar to her scumgame was AI and what the difference was.
Percy's reasons i think are fine and if i hadn't played with tris before i might also think that, but i haven't really seen any reasons that aren't null to me and considering your experience with her i expected something more.

i skimmed about half her iso in anuket again, yeah
she makes more declarative statements in anuket than in her scumgame imo (ie 'i think x is scum' or 'i think these two people are town', even without a vote, as opposed to asking questions). she's also a little more pushy there in following up on questions, which makes me feel like in anuket she actually cared about the answers

[skitter30]

I just basically also win with town, so yeah, I’m town siding, just don’t screw me over, and I won’t screw you guys over, we end together.

I'm agreeing with insomnia here. If you're with town, then fully disclose your role. Otherwise, 3p is anti-town, and you're the default lynch since no one is blatant scum so far.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is scum.

Can’t do it now, or I’ll lose.

I’ve already stated that I can be lynched and still win later in the game, so this is inherently scum indicative of Persivul.

i don't get why this is scum indicative of him

[funkybike1]

This is a surprisingly slow weekend, considering that you only have 2½ days left before a plurality lynch.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Smile (4):

insomnia, Irrelephant11, tris, Chara

Fuscezu (2):

Brown Eyes, ClearlyClarity

tris (1):

RCEnigma

RCEnigma (1):

Fuscezu

Irrelephant11 (1):

Flavor Leaf

Flavor Leaf (1):

Persivul

insomnia (1):

Smile

Not Voting (2):

ceejayvinoya, skitter30

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

[skitter30]

I can’t say my fucking win con.

can't (ie the mod said you can't say your wincon), or won't?

[skitter30]

Persi is already universally townread. Don't push it like he's a slot that needs saving.

this is the first post from you that i actually liked

[skitter30]

This is a surprisingly slow weekend, considering that you only have 2½ days left before a plurality lynch.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Smile (4):

insomnia, Irrelephant11, tris, Chara

Fuscezu (2):

Brown Eyes, ClearlyClarity

tris (1):

RCEnigma

RCEnigma (1):

Fuscezu

Irrelephant11 (1):

Flavor Leaf

Flavor Leaf (1):

Persivul

insomnia (1):

Smile

Not Voting (2):

ceejayvinoya, skitter30

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

a) i only townread like half of the smile wagon. i don't really have a read on smile; at least in part because the anon-hydra is kinda making it hard for me to read them

b) i don't like the fusezu wagon; i think he's town and i don't have reads on eithe rof the people voting him. i also feel like clearly has kinda disppeared off the planet? there are some circumstances where this isn't ai (ie this can be newb!town intimidated by the first game out of the newbie queue) but the fact that she's knowingly repeatedly playing that card and is using it to avoid giving content makes me kinda suspicious and i'm not liking it that much. i also think that her fixation (hundreds of posts later) of how people read her entrance was kinda scummy, as was the context in which she framed fucezu's questioning her entrance, as was the fact that she ignored me at least once when i pointed out that her push on fucezu for it was scummy

ok actually after i wrote that all out i realized that i kinda scumread her

c) smile, get your vote off of insomnia; i'm pretty sure he's town; he's prob my second strongest townread rn i think

d) i also very much dislike that fl is still on irrel and that getting other reads out of him has been like pulling teeth

e) i think rce's kinda sheeping of me on tris was really ????? weird and felt kinda wrong. i don't know what to make of hte fact that for a while tris was on rce and rce is now on tris

f) cj is still kinda scummy but i don't think his inactivity is ai rn

g) i don't know where to vote rn

apparently i just wrote a bunch of my assorted thoughts

[skitter30]

@mod can you prod clearly and brown eyes please?

[skitter30]

With that said I'm on the other side of the fence from both of you since I think CC is probably town on demeanor and I kind of like shiidaji.

Talk to me more about CC “town on demeanor” and explain why it’s more likely than “newbscum playing the part of cheerful-newb”

Because it was indifferent newb. Which is imo bolder and less likely from someone that may feel outclassed.

rce how many times have you played with cc?

and do you still have this read on her?

[skitter30]

(i'm doing a little hw on her rn)

[skitter30]

and @rce is scum!you more likely to townread or scumread a partner?