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[skitter30]

VOTE: egix

I buy ausuka claim

Busy until about noon pst

Oh i am very interested in this

[u r a person 2]

I see no reason not to believe it atm? I don't think ausuka had a reason to soft their result. They weren't dying over inferno really ever

[skitter30]

It doesn't make sense from a balance perspective at all
(Well, not at all from my pov, and it should be at least straining credulity for everyone else)

She wasn't trreating gamma's slot as town, she should have crumbed the inno, she just hasn't been playing townie, and if she's town there's 3 scum in 4 vt claims / unclaimeds (i'm assuming vt) which is ?

[u r a person 2]

Can you talk me through the balance problems behind the claims as presented?

I'll go look at the rest later when not on mobile

Egix has been scummy independent of claims all game but we can't get a wagon on him. Probably scum regardless

[Exilon]

Can you talk me through the balance problems behind the claims as presented?

I'll go look at the rest later when not on mobile

Egix has been scummy independent of claims all game but we can't get a wagon on him. Probably scum regardless

when did this opinion of yours sprout?

[Exilon]

also am I supposed to claim right now? honest question

[u r a person 2]

Can you talk me through the balance problems behind the claims as presented?

I'll go look at the rest later when not on mobile

Egix has been scummy independent of claims all game but we can't get a wagon on him. Probably scum regardless

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when did this opinion of yours sprout?

I don't remember exactly when but it's been a while mate. Go look

[Exilon]

Nevermind, I was under a gut impression that your view on Egix was closer to town due to your reaction to my case, which didn't seem very agreeable, seems like I misinterpreted it somewhat

My memory got tunneled on that and I missed your declared SR on him

[Detective Pikachu]

If there's a way that finishing mass claim could hurt town with ic masons neap and detective claimed I'm not sure off hand what it would be.

UNVOTE: just cause people need to check in

[Exilon]

It's just, I know I'm a bit biased but it surprises me how there's actually people that would vote Egix when I posted my case D2 but seems Egix wasn't the actual first choice for people to push then, and so he wasn't really wagoned, and I don't know if that's indicative of something but I feel it should be. I can't logically put into words *why*, and again, this is biased by my own self-importance here, but help me figure this insight out

[skitter30]

Can you talk me through the balance problems behind the claims as presented?

I'll go look at the rest later when not on mobile

Egix has been scummy independent of claims all game but we can't get a wagon on him. Probably scum regardless

If all claims are true and town we can have 4 clears day2 and 5 day 3.

I mean, does this sound reasonable to you?

[skitter30]

also am I supposed to claim right now? honest question

Given what's claimed u might as well

[Exilon]

VT
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Detective Pikachu]

I think we finish mass

Skitter in your mind have you played like vt or tpr this game?

[Detective Pikachu]

I guess I'd go urap first then egix but I don't care about order that much and you two can claim whenever you post next

[skitter30]

Vt except for the bit where i was really confused by the hider claim; there were a couple of places i did similar 'softs' to what ausuka did (ie strongly indicating i wanted to claim before getting lynched)

Other than that vt; i mostly don't believe in playing different as a pr

[Egix96]

I guess I'd go urap first then egix but I don't care about order that much and you two can claim whenever you post next

Sure, I'm a Vanilla Townie.

[Exilon]

@pikachu

VT, btw

Setup spec not really my forte

[bob3141]

Three scenarios:
Garmr/Bob masons
Garmr/Bob neighbors with a mason claim gambit with at least one town
Garmr/Bob scum/scum with mason claim gambit

I don't particularly want to reread garmr again so I might read bob tomorrow morning when I'm fresh. I'd like Bob to emphatically rule out 2 though as I would see a neighborhood based mason claim confirmation as gamethrowing right now.

VOTE: Ausuka while I sleep on it

me and garmr are masons. That analysis on day 2 was meant to double up as a big breadcrumb that me and garmr are Masons.

[Ausuka]

And I haven't had an opportunity yet to look back through the game really. My first post was at like half eleven when I was really tired and the rest have been on mobile.

Unsure what to make of skitter's claim. Why did you target me? If you got a guilty it didn't matter coz you were gonna lynch me anyway.

Targeted u cuz i thought u wre scum. If u notice, i didnt actually vote you until *after* the claim - i wasn't sure where to vote at daystart or if i wanted to push u or not

Also i guess now the scum who does the nk will be chosen arounnd my reads; i was trying to figure out who did the nks n1 and n2 but didnt really feel like one person was substantially more likely to perform the kill than other people

Fair enough I guess.

[Ausuka]

Why would I die n2? I thought the chances were literally 0, even before claims.

You could have been lynched?

If I was going to be lynched I would have claimed?

[Ausuka]

Like I don't really want scum figuring out I have an inno on Gamma. I thought that could get me killed before I started getting pushed, afterwards I thought it could get gamma killed and after hider shenanigans I knew both of us would probably survive but I didn't want them to have the information that Gamma was gonna be clear, if that makes sense. And unless scum figured out my role I thought they would literally never kill me n2. That's why I didn't soft my Gamma inno.

[u r a person 2]

If all claims are true and town we can have 4 clears day2 and 5 day 3.

I mean, does this sound reasonable to you?

so 13 player start, by day 3
1 clear immediately (IC)
2 clears from masons
1 clear w/ potential for false guilty from neapolitan on d2
1 Low chance (1/8 or 2/8 if scum spreads their kills over two nights) of a guilty from detective

so yes, 5 by d3 is possible, but it's a dramatically more likely that it would be 4 by d3, and possible that it would be 3 by d3 and a false guilty

that's not feeling outrageous from my perspective, but like I said, it's not my area of expertise

[bob3141]

I dont know much about game balance but if only one of skitter or ausuka can be telling teh truth then I would lean towards ausuka being town.

One thing that never felt right with me was skitter pushing teh lynch rui yet ending up on sach lynch after it had died. My gut instinct of skitters vote record is one of avoiding teh lynchs to look towny.

Also it never felt right when skitter said bobs town.



My instinct are saying that even if ausuka is scum I feel like HGR was town. ( need to read emmerald) . ( Even if i did for bit accuse gamble of being sach scum partner during a bit of ego trip. You need not know what caused the ego trip at work

[bob3141]

well what caused me to ahve one after work becuase of somethign during work