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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:26 am

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VC 3.04
Ausuka (2):
Egix96 , skitter30
Egix96 (2):
Ausuka , Exilon
Exilion (2):
bob3141 , u r a person 2

Not Voting:
Garmr, Skygazer, u r a person 2, Detective Pikachu

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.


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(expired on 2019-06-02 15:00:00)


Replacing Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:39 am

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Skygazer replaces Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:40 am

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hi !
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:47 am

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oh hai sky!
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:48 am

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why r u being voted
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:53 am

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That's what I asked and what I'm currently waiting on an answer for

But basically we're at the point were mechanically there's only a few possible scum in the slots, and that's basically it.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 11:54 am

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who is clear?
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:00 pm

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pikachu is IC

Gamr and Bob are technically not clear but are like 99.999% masons

Ausuka is scum who is claiming odd night nea

skitter is town claiming even night detective

I'm town

and egix + one of {gamma, exilon} are final scum

game is auto from pov of town!{me, egix, exilon} but exilon can't seem to figure that out

Ausuka is the best lynch from the conf!town slots, but they can't seem to figure that out

and either of {Exilon, Egix} are ideal from my pov because, as i said, auto
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:01 pm

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detective pikachu is IC so auto clear;
Garmr and Bob claimed masons and it was greatly breadcrumbed and Garmr gave us lots of hard-to-fake receipts so it's consensual in the group they're town
Then Ausuka claimed odd-night neapolitan and gave us a clear on your slot for VT relative to day1;
Then skitter claimed even-night detective that checked Ausuka N2, with no result.

The rest are claimed VTs - Egix, me and Urap2.

Assuming a scumteam of size 3, scum's possible pool is extremely small.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:02 pm

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scum blundered by never hitting a pr with nk, and choosing not to kill ic

which is why we're in a great position after a couple mislynches
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 2007, u r a person 2 wrote:
game is auto from pov of town!{me, egix, exilon} but exilon can't seem to figure that out
Why do you think that is?

Honest question before I lose my calm
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:06 pm

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i'll pull up the post for you that you said you would go through on your own one sec

it's not an opinion, lol

literally, if you are town and believe that the masons are real, it's auto

lose your calm all you want
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:08 pm

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simply replace your name with mine and nothing changes. it is auto from town!your perspective
In post 1917, u r a person 2 wrote:So given that the following people are town, and at this point I do think it's a given
Pikachu
Garmr
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and given that Gamma can only be scum if Ausuka is
and given that at minimum one of skitter and ausuka is town

Possible scum are
Ausuka + Gamma
Ausuka OR Skitter
Egix
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Possibile teams are
Ausuka + Gamma + Egix
Ausuka + Gamma + Exilon

Ausuka + Egix + Exilon
Skitter + Egix + Exilon

Of those 4 teams, Egix, Ausuka, and Exilon are found in 3 of 4
Skitter is found in 1/4

Given Town!Ausuka comes into D4 with a check,
The best lynches are Egix and Exilon

There is no team that does not include at least one of the two, so there is no way that I can think of (I haven't looked at the normal roles list) for town to lose tomorrow by mislynching one and then lynching the other.

Further, if one of them is a mislynch, then it is confirmed that Ausuka AND Gamma are scum.
If neither is a mislynch, then we are at 5p, 4T, 1S and 2 unconfirmed in {Skitter, Ausuka}

Thus, fmpov we're in auto right now without the benefit of further checks. This feels unbalanced, but I have to believe that's because scum chose to never nk the IC, and also never hit a PR.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:09 pm

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you don't need to, I know what I said

That comments wording implied you didn't, with a tone I didn't really appreciate, and implied something else which isn't helped by the fact I'm bit more sensitive today.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:11 pm

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i don't know what you're talking about, mate

you don't seem to be accepting that the game is auto from your pov which only makes sense if you're scum

Either agree with the analysis, or show me why im wrong but don't threaten to throw a hissy fit lolol
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:15 pm

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I'm not gonna go into semantics.
I already agreed with it, and I'm already voting Egix
the rest was me clarifying some doubts, not refusing your analysis
so for you to say "can't seem to figure it out" just comes across as insulting


Let me get into a different topic here, why did you change your vote to me? I know you don't really care from your pov who gets lynched, but Egi's wagon was ahead of mine, so why the shift?
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:17 pm

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conf town is being stubborn and wrongheaded. he should be voting for ausuka from his pov

but he's voting you

and voting you is a fine vote fmpov because, again, auto

so why would i fight it

again, this should be obvious

this game is boring now because WE'RE IN AUTO and anything to move it along is fine by me
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:18 pm

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i remember you saying you agreed to it on first pass. i don't remember you going back and doing the analysis and confirming it, and your synopsis to sky didn't say "hey, we're in auto fmpov" so i figured you didn't get it or were simply scum

apologies if i missed a post somewhere
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 1943, Exilon wrote:I'll walk through the post step by step tomorrow with pen and paper
As I said right now was a first readthrough
this was the last time you mentioned it, so considering your synopsis to sky, I think it was correct at the time for me to say you couldn't seem to figure it out

sorry you felt insulted, but what was I supposed to think?

why isn't this game as boring for you as for me? is it because your role pm is red? probably amirite
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:23 pm

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My synopsis came after you said that comment.
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 2005, Exilon wrote:That's what I asked and what I'm currently waiting on an answer for

But basically we're at the point were mechanically there's only a few possible scum in the slots, and that's basically it.
this comment :roll:
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:25 pm

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is what i was referring to
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:25 pm

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Also, maybe the difference between our attitudes right now is that you're sure of the setup and don't see any plot twist coming about, whereas I have never had any game of mafia in this forum where I wasn't thrown for a loop near the end of the game when I thought the game was solved, so excuse me for still trying to be engaging with players. That shouldn't change anything from your pov at all
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 2020, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 2005, Exilon wrote:That's what I asked and what I'm currently waiting on an answer for

But basically we're at the point were mechanically there's only a few possible scum in the slots, and that's basically it.
this comment :roll:
Forgive me for trying to not be biased when summarizing the current gamestate
also, that's not wrong at all to say
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 12:26 pm

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In post 2022, Exilon wrote:Also, maybe the difference between our attitudes right now is that you're sure of the setup and don't see any plot twist coming about, whereas I have never had any game of mafia in this forum where I wasn't thrown for a loop near the end of the game when I thought the game was solved, so excuse me for still trying to be engaging with players. That shouldn't change anything from your pov at all
we've already massclaimed and the analysis works regardless of the scum roles because it doesn't require a night action by town pr

so like ???????????
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