Confscum.
(Would link but can't find the relevant post.) VOTE: apthet
Is this the "Hey guys!" tell?
The "hey guys!" tell was the joke reason for the confscum reading, yes--if I were around in the RVS, I'd call apthet scum for "hey guys", and then leave it at that not elaborating on it further in spite of my reasoning clearly being a joke (because I don't believe in the hey guys tell).
...But as you can tell.
I had an actual SERIOUS reason for thinking apthet was scum from that entrance, yes.
It was a joke. Parachutes, I said who needs em. You actually do when you're jumping out of a plane. I was trying to be funny. Goodness fucking gracious.
Mastina And Nom., are you so dead set sure that I'm scum so much to the point to where you won't even consider that you're incorrect on me? That you won't even discuss other possibilities?
In post 651, GeminiTwin12 wrote:It was a joke. Parachutes, I said who needs em. You actually do when you're jumping out of a plane. I was trying to be funny. Goodness fucking gracious.
Mastina And Nom., are you so dead set sure that I'm scum so much to the point to where you won't even consider that you're incorrect on me? That you won't even discuss other possibilities?
I've literally been asking you all game long what "other possibilities" there are and you've played the game of sitting on the fence about me and cheeky, then instantly going back to flailing and scumreading mastina for pushing you. You LITERALLY have put three people that pushed you as scum in your scumpool at some point and there was no case on any player at all, just fencesitting to the extreme. You're the kind of player that's just going to sit there and be handling the hammers all game long instead of starting anything substantial and that's scummy. At this point I believe the only reason cheeky is being extremely obtuse about your slot is because she believes you can't blatantly be this scummy and be scum. At this point I'm fairly sure that the only post I liked almost sounds like it was written by something else given the stark contrast with literally everything else you posted.
You've burned your last bullet on Mastina. You're not going away. I won't let you ruin this game.
Do I also need to point out the completely absurd and illogical stance of trusting
your own scumread
on a read about a player? I'm talking to you right now but I'm actually equally mind boggled that cheeky hasn't picked up on that either. I can't even begin to point at all the things that point you as the most obvious scum I've ever had the chance to play with. For real.
Yeah so essentially this isn't going to be productive. I've said what I had to say, given what I had to offer at this point, I'm not asking for chances,
I'm not obvious scum, just not having a good town game this time around.
The things you're saying I'm scum for is what I do as town, I don't start wagons and I'm naturally an indecisive person. You can skim through a few of my games for that. If I was scum here, I would be "doing the most" to try and keep up appearances since the start of this and I would have placesd down a serious vote somewhere already.
I don't understand in what world it's ok to call people morons? Check yourself you overinflated bitch you don't know anything about me.
Now pull your head out of your fucking ass for a second a maybe you should ask clarifying questions, fucking moron, because we seem to be talking past each other.
You wanted toxic? You got it and it can get so much worse so make a decision about how ugly you want this game to be and watch what you say to people trying to have fun playing a game. There's no need to personally attack people and you look especially awful when you don't understand what you're talking what.
In post 656, CheekyTeeky wrote:Check yourself you overinflated bitch you don't know anything about me.
I have to be honest: I really don't like how you are playing this game right now but I can't be mad at you when you write shit like this because you send my sides into orbit lmao
@Nom, @Mastina, anyone else doing it, calling people stupid for not agreeing with you, however obvious you think your points are, is at best unhelpful and at worst making me suspect you're just trying to rile people up to cloud their judgment and/or cause a distraction.
@Mastina 646 is a particularly low blow and I think you should apologize for it.
I'm not playing some people need to learn where the line is and treat others with respect regardless of alignment/status. I'm not going to be bullied at the whim of someone when I was here before them enjoying this game. Like attack the argument not the person or just get better people skills, this is a social game.
I don't have an issue being wrong or having a bad argument but don't fucking call me a moron like you have any right to label me.
Ehhh I can see it in special circumstances being clearing when there's good reason to suspect scum wouldn't claim VT beyond just "I don't think they would"; actual solid reasons with strong justification backing why the VT claim is disproportionately likely to come from town.
My post was mostly my way of saying that I don't think said circumstances exist in this game, that there's no special circumstances behind Gemini's VT claim that make it inherently clearing to her, that it's something scum would likely know was the claim to make.
So that was fluff all along then? VT claims aren't clearing by default anyway.
If you thought I was saying what you fucking thought I said, find a way to confirm that's what I meant. Find a way to ask me about it and see what I'd have said.
One question was all you'd have needed.
"So, you think that this game's got seven VTs?"
"Are you telling me you think that only scum would know what roles are in the game?" (Ehhh probably not this one as it gives away your meaning too much, but something along those lines could feasibly be done without giving your status away.)
One question.
That's all you'd have fucking needed.
And then, BAM.
I clarify.
That, no, I mean, "Well IF the game's got seven VTs, then YES I would expect the scum to know that, yes. If the game instead had six VTs, I'd expect the scum to know that."
And then.
BAM.
Issue resolved. You suss me out and get a satisfactory answer right then and there.
Without this fucking mess.
Or if that answer wasn't satisfactory?
Ask a second follow-through question to get me to further clarify.
And eventually the results become obvious in what I mean and what I mean not being what you fucking originally thought I was saying.
So I reiterate.
You're a fucking moron.
mastina, please calm down.
But iirc this mastina AtE is more likely to come from town than scum
In post 651, GeminiTwin12 wrote:It was a joke. Parachutes, I said who needs em. You actually do when you're jumping out of a plane. I was trying to be funny. Goodness fucking gracious.
Mastina And Nom., are you so dead set sure that I'm scum so much to the point to where you won't even consider that you're incorrect on me? That you won't even discuss other possibilities?
All right
With this continued schtick from Gemini I'm starting to feel like he's struggling scum rather than defeated town.
In post 659, LuckyOtter wrote:@Nom, @Mastina, anyone else doing it, calling people stupid for not agreeing with you, however obvious you think your points are, is at best unhelpful and at worst making me suspect you're just trying to rile people up to cloud their judgment and/or cause a distraction.
I'm not calling people stupid, what I call stupid is this whole argument and this whole line of logic altogether, rudeness aside. I think I can agree that the only thing that worries me about Gemini's slot is the actual lack of case making on Gemini and I could see a player addressing asinine points with AtE over and over just to avoid doing that, even if there was some case making to push Ap. Otherwise I don't see Mastina being scum and pushing a specific pair here.
Apologies. I corrected that error in a later post about you
-urap
<3
As for Otter's question about where my null and scumreads are in light of my townreads:
With the current information that I'm working with... I don't know. I'll make a real post at some point in the near future maybe. If I had any solid scumreads I'd be focusing there. I might get enough comfortable townreads at some point where the remaining pool is really narrow. Like I'm a lot more comfortable with Cheeky as well. mastina seems town and that's ridiculously annoying. I think the people I don't have reasons to townread are both hydras and maybe Otter, who I'm more ??? on.
Apologies. I corrected that error in a later post about you
-urap
<3
As for Otter's question about where my null and scumreads are in light of my townreads:
With the current information that I'm working with... I don't know. I'll make a real post at some point in the near future maybe. If I had any solid scumreads I'd be focusing there. I might get enough comfortable townreads at some point where the remaining pool is really narrow. Like I'm a lot more comfortable with Cheeky as well. mastina seems town and that's ridiculously annoying. I think the people I don't have reasons to townread are both hydras and maybe Otter, who I'm more ??? on.