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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:22 am

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Well, you pretty much know you role, don't you?
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:24 am

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@Mod: Request at least 24 hours extension, given recent replacement. I don't need much, but two days is a pretty nuts deadline to read, analyze, prosecute a case, and teach newbies.


Preview edit: Yes, but I have no evidence that you need to know it, and I have only your word to suggest that revealing it is a good idea.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:31 am

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You are L-1. You have word of 3 other players that your slot is in troubles and should claim.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 673, Pine wrote:
In post 663, Irrelephant11 wrote:Im making my wife mad because I’ve been staring at my phone for too long on vacation but this wagon is F’ing crap and it’s pissing me off
If Raya isnt scum Cinnamon probably is for always sheeping the scumread most strongly held by either of me/Flavor
That said, holy shit this post.

The wife thing (while probably legit) is classic appeal to emotion.

Then the waffling and keeping options open for whomever is weakest, and for a really shite reason. Oh gee willikers, a newish player is sheeping experienced players? How perfectly ordinary. Your job as a Town IC/SE would be to correct/explain/teach why that's not good play, not eviscerate them for it. Will definitely be reading Irrelephant with a critical eye.
To be fair to Irrelephant, part of his argument is that he thinks I am a 'capable mafia player' based on other games that I have played, so I think that he is not considering me to be a true newbie to the game.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:33 am

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Hard claim*
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:33 am

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In post 567, teacher wrote:Freud rears his ugly head.
Raya (not Voted) should claim. I will repost my vote in appr 15 hours.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:33 am

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They are also not L-1. I would not hard claim at this moment.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:35 am

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Teacher posted that before an extension was announced
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:36 am

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Continuing to engage me right now only prolongs my read-through and analysis. Chill.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:39 am

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Yeah, but who else is the lynch today? Irrelephant is totally less scummy than Pine slot. Might as well claim now than 10 minutes before deadline. Also the less information Pine has for claim, the harder to fake claim.

@Pine
At least respond me this. Are you a jailkeeper? Yes or no.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:47 am

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No. And further I haven't the foggiest idea why you think Raya was softing it. I went back through her two whole posts to try and figure out what she was thinking softing something, but I'm left wondering what you're doing PR-hunting.

That left me wondering what the case on me is, and as far as I can tell, the entire case is lack of content. Boo fucking hoo, you had two people flake on you, and this slot is the low-hanging fruit. Put on some big boy pants and do some real scumhunting, like I'm trying to.

Now leave me alone for a few hours.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:48 am

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Will extend deadline to (expired on 2019-06-06 15:31:32).
No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:57 am

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Well, I tried. I other game I played FormerFish did samething similar and made my scum partner panic. He didn't even read ISO of his slot.
@Cinnamon, thanks for putting lots of pressure away with your posts.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:59 am

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That was a pressure trap? Nice. I wouldn't have expected it from someone so new. Props.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:00 am

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To be honest, I really didn't see it as a pressure trap at all. I just saw somebody PR-hunting.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 am

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In post 364, Cinnamon wrote:
In post 356, Voted wrote:Can I heavy push this, please?
If you think it's something worth pushing, by all means you should do it.
Well, that was what I ment with having pushing.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:10 am

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Okay, can I scumhunt in peace now?
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:11 am

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@Cinnamon, what exactly made Irrelephant in front of Pine where it comes to scumminess? I know you were inclined for it for a while, but I am interested in the trigger.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:12 am

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In post 691, Pine wrote:Okay, can I scumhunt in peace now?
Yep, we will let you rest in peace.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:21 am

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Yeah my gut reaction to your push their Voted was that I thought it seemed really out of place and scummy, but now I definitely see where you could be coming from
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:27 am

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Ironically what I previously said about Flavor and Eggs has much more application here I feel; the apathetic lack of posting coming from the Pine slot could be from town or scum (though I am slightly more inclined to believe it is coming from scum) whereas I think Irrelephant is really trying to look towny but is not saying things that make sense coming from a town mindset.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:42 am

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Voted can you explain why you think Pine is scummier than Irrelephant right now (assuming that wasn't just part of your pressure)?
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 695, Cinnamon wrote:Ironically what I previously said about Flavor and Eggs has much more application here I feel; the apathetic lack of posting coming from the Pine slot could be from town or scum (though I am slightly more inclined to believe it is coming from scum) whereas I think Irrelephant is really trying to look towny but is not saying things that make sense coming from a
town mindset
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I don't like that you use even same words as FL.
I think I will ask you to elaborate with examples so you just don't ctrl+c ctrl+v FL.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:56 am

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I am samewhat catching towny vibes from irrelephant; I townread him. The vote on him was reaction test (yes, I like doing gambits a lot)
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:08 am

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Well I am putting this at L-1.

I don't follow the cinnamon teacher FL irrelephant conversation at all. It all sort of makes sense at face value but apparently they all don't think so about each others posts.

What I do know is that there were 2 replacements in this slot and nothing of particular value from either. On PoE I think menalque is town, cinnamon seems town even if irrelephant has something on him I can't tell if it's accurate or not, voted is massive mislynch bait but the only indications on him are voting traps which he seems to have evaded, leaves me with hopefully at least one scum in baezu/pine and hopefully no more than one in the SE slots which I am hoping someone else will figure out for me because I just don't know.

I'm not sure why this lynch has been derailed, is anyone actually Townreading this slot?

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