open 759: house party (compleded)

[Skygazer]

yumeeee still feels scummy but that wagon was bleh
tw's predecessor's iso gave me some scum pings bc i reread that when he replaced in but eh i can read tw so am not too worried
red panda

uhhhhhh

ok so as my good friend cheekyteeky once asked

skygazer whos scum

probs those three tbh

[the worst]

oh yeah joff is like 100% auro

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm worried sky because I usually struggle to read you but I like want to townread you which is alien.

[Skygazer]

@cheeky wait where have we played before again

[the worst]

yumeeee still feels scummy but that wagon was bleh
tw's predecessor's iso gave me some scum pings bc i reread that when he replaced in but eh i can read tw so am not too worried
red panda

uhhhhhh

ok so as my good friend cheekyteeky once asked

skygazer whos scum

probs those three tbh

you're wrong on me
you don't feel convinced on whorve4 y7mee34 is
idk who red panda is

talk me through some stuff?

[Skygazer]

ye lemme dig into some isos and like see what i remember about yumeko/red panda bc this was in night for a while and i never got super into this game

[Inbred Lannisters]

is nancy joff? i feel like she knows im more than capable of seeming town as scum

I know this too, after reading Coalition, but there is a recognizable way you go about it as scum; why should it be a town tell if you deliberately changed your meta to be more objectively scummy?

Obfuscation

-Joff

[Inbred Lannisters]

VOTE: Skygazer

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)

excuse me may i talk 2 nancy

Shoot.

~Tyrion

[the worst]

Auro you said the game is solved fypov - give me a quick rundown?

[Skygazer]

Looking at the mechanic, This is what I believe we should do- Isolate the strongest town reads. In my mafia experience, It's easier to find townies than scum because some townies behave like scum and some of them lurk and post fluff which doesn't help at all. Let me read up now.

Thoughts on the first page.

There are three people that have given me decent reads and I want to thank skygazer for it.

There are three interpretations you can get from it. He's either joking or its scum trying to waste such a powerful mechanic(although that's a stretch) or its a reaction test and skygazers next few posts show that he knows what the best move for town is and he was looking for people not calling him out for the first post. But I'm not going to give him a town read for this. This could be a scum gambit. Skygazer is null slightly leaning town and his read will change based on how he scumhunts in the future. He's already given me info on his play so if he starts fluffing and failing at scumhunting then my read will change.

People all around, you gotta (Come geddit) ♪ ♫
From the left to the right, make noise ♪ ♫

Anyway, TRT, I'm actually gonna disagree with you there - 410's entrance felt more like good-natured joking from town than anything else. What makes it scummy is the way he doubled back and called attention to it in 14.

I have a slight town read on schiavatto for this. This post is risky for scum to do cause it can backfire. Although I don't fully agree with his sentiments, that could be a way a townie would perceive Skygazer.

Skygazer seems to want attention. Talking about mech over reads early is scummy, and saying I'm scummy for not calling her scummy is scummy, but moving from not wanting to talk about mech to immediately talking about mech is. . . maybe townie?

Every choice we make is a gamble. But even so, we still gamble. For we enjoy the risk.

HEAL: Mary Saotome
HEAL: Kirari Momobami

I have a slight town read on kirari for this. Although I am guilty for the same reason, Scum would try to infiltrate by trying to act in the best interests for town. But I don't think that applies to skygazer. he's either scum pulling a cheeky gambit or townie who wants to lead people to lynch scum.

And speaking of using talking about mechanic to appear town. Uncle bob is the one in my gut who I feel is scum trying to act townie.

what are the odds that PP/Mary interaction was SvS

strong town read on renais for this.

you can only add people and they never get removed

WHATTTT? Although I still think adding strong town reads is better because most townies are bad being townies. I think we should only add 3 of our strongest town reads into the party. I'm not good at figuring out the optimal number so I'm going to defer to someone else but the logic is to lynch from the bigger pool unless there is a kill in the smaller pool.

The way I see it, we should manage the party and the lynch using separate rules - we lynch people who are likely to be mafia, but we don't necessarily send people who are likely to be town to the party. Mmm, I think any plan that involves trying to send townie people in is flawed.

Why??? Not liking this post at all, feels like you're writing a paper and trying to get your word count up

VOTE: yumeko

Completely agree with this.

I have a slight gut town read on michael scott for post58.

What about putting no one into the party for day 1 and we try to play day 1 normally and go about it after we get a flip? That way we have much more information to work with

I don't agree with this at all. We either lose one of our strong townies and can narrow the mafia down or we keep our strong townies safe. The other way is just asking to lose one of our strong townies.

like first three redpanda posts are giving out wayyyyy too easy townreads, talking about mechanics, and like feels vaguely pockety towards me

[Inbred Lannisters]

This looks like Cheeky’s towngame so far, Tw seem okay so far too.

~T

[Inbred Lannisters]

Auro you said the game is solved fypov - give me a quick rundown?

Prob solve and I'm waiting for a few things to happen, wait for it

-Joff

[the worst]

grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?

[Skygazer]

VOTE: Skygazer

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)

excuse me may i talk 2 nancy

Shoot.

~Tyrion

hi r u SRing me too

[Skygazer]

grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?

i mean - its hard for me to like think of an agenda rn besides pocketing/whatever but like just some of them seem like stretches imo/possibly tmi

[Inbred Lannisters]

VOTE: Skygazer

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)

excuse me may i talk 2 nancy

Shoot.

~Tyrion

hi r u SRing me too

I’m not sure but if you obvtown, I will know it.

Why should I tr you here?

[Skygazer]

reminds me of my scumgame where i don't like instigating pushes bc i don't like the attention and try to pocket ppl and seem active by giving town reads

[Skygazer]

VOTE: Skygazer

- Cersei Lannister (Volxen)

excuse me may i talk 2 nancy

Shoot.

~Tyrion

hi r u SRing me too

I’m not sure but if you obvtown, I will know it.

Why should I tr you here?

i dont think you should be TRing me here but i dont think you should be SRing me either; this game has been kinda anomalous for me wrt a lot of things

[Skygazer]

ur two hydra partners seem to have a p strong SR on me and i don't think you'd SR me that strongly here bc this looks neither like my usual town game or usual scum game imo

[CheekyTeeky]

@cheeky wait where have we played before again

Too many to be bothered digging :/

[the worst]

grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?

i mean - its hard for me to like think of an agenda rn besides pocketing/whatever but like just some of them seem like stretches imo/possibly tmi

what if I told you I don't see anything wolfy in those red panda posts without context

[Skygazer]

grab those townreads and show me why you think they're agenda driving?

i mean - its hard for me to like think of an agenda rn besides pocketing/whatever but like just some of them seem like stretches imo/possibly tmi

what if I told you I don't see anything wolfy in those red panda posts without context

i feel like my mindset is still in early d1 ig

[Skygazer]

what do you feel gut-wise looking at yume? i wanna sort them bc their posts scream scum to me yet their wagon screams mislynch

[Skygazer]

*yumeko

[the worst]

can you try a bit harder to fix your reads? that + the fact you smell like a wolf and apparently lolhammered town is making it really easy to draw an easy conclusion and I feel like I'd rather spend more time and get a better read here