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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:01 pm

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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:41 pm

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In post 1802, Jingle wrote:Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.
Menno.
S Noodle.

Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

I'm not really interested in forcing people to vote specific ones, but those are the correct choices for every team.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:00 am

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In post 1803, Jingle wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:
Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.
These are actually important.
Is it? My wincon isn't to die.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:23 am

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In post 1827, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1803, Jingle wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:
Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.
These are actually important.
Is it? My wincon isn't to die.
What is your winning condition?
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:25 am

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Get the Tanner lynched.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:31 am

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In post 1826, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.
Menno.
S Noodle.

Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

I'm not really interested in forcing people to vote specific ones, but those are the correct choices for every team.
Thanks
This is not true.

To only point out one flaw: I, as a Family Man, lose, if tris is being killed.

Not only is it wrong, it is also not smart to propose three people to kill. Town should concentrate on two people, otherwise the evil teams can outvote you. But I don't mind if you are evil, so no need for me to keep thinking about it :b

I think 19 Screaming Noodle and 07 Flavour Leaf are better options. It obviously meets my win condition, but it also seems a lot safer from what has been claimed yet. Just read through the passages that these phrases in the claim chart are based on.


Oh... and if there are some players in my family that are going to be lynched... I am not happy at all. In this case, if too few villagers agree to NOT choose people from 22 to 63, I will coordinate votes FOR TEAM EVIL. By that villagers only have enough power to kill one evil, thus not meeting the win condition and lose. I am one of the very few that can organize it for the baddies, since an actual evil person cannot do it without outing themselves. So better follow my advice! Feels good to be able to decide about the faith of dozens...

I give the villagers a day to respond to the offer. I am also happy with other players but 07 and 19. Just make me an offer!

I really wanna help out the village, because by that most people win. But if my family could be hurt, I will have to be consequent.
The clock is ticking, you 81 people. I leave you to respond.


Btw HOW LONG IS STILL LEFT? WHEN PRECISELY DOES IT END? (:
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:34 am

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Vorkuta, I have special interest in your opinion. You made a good job with the claim chart. And many people are mindlessly following your advice without thinking themselves... To describe it in a negatively connoted way :D
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:39 am

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In post 1830, Languste wrote:
In post 1826, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.
Menno.
S Noodle.

Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

I'm not really interested in forcing people to vote specific ones, but those are the correct choices for every team.
Thanks
This is not true.

To only point out one flaw: I, as a Family Man, lose, if tris is being killed.

Not only is it wrong, it is also not smart to propose three people to kill. Town should concentrate on two people, otherwise the evil teams can outvote you. But I don't mind if you are evil, so no need for me to keep thinking about it :b

I think 19 Screaming Noodle and 07 Flavour Leaf are better options. It obviously meets my win condition, but it also seems a lot safer from what has been claimed yet. Just read through the passages that these phrases in the claim chart are based on.


Oh... and if there are some players in my family that are going to be lynched... I am not happy at all. In this case, if too few villagers agree to NOT choose people from 22 to 63, I will coordinate votes FOR TEAM EVIL. By that villagers only have enough power to kill one evil, thus not meeting the win condition and lose. I am one of the very few that can organize it for the baddies, since an actual evil person cannot do it without outing themselves. So better follow my advice! Feels good to be able to decide about the faith of dozens...

I give the villagers a day to respond to the offer. I am also happy with other players but 07 and 19. Just make me an offer!

I really wanna help out the village, because by that most people win. But if my family could be hurt, I will have to be consequent.
The clock is ticking, you 81 people. I leave you to respond.


Btw HOW LONG IS STILL LEFT? WHEN PRECISELY DOES IT END? (:
We're putting three candidates on the table in case a Bodyguard card has been unknowingly swapped and inadvertently prevents the lynch of one of our candidates. There should still be plenty of town voting to prevent scum shenanigans.

Day phase is open for two weeks, so currently scheduled to end on the 19th.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:47 am

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I will just do whatever Jingle and Vork suggest and hope it works for me.
In post 1821, Flavor Leaf wrote:So worms got switcherood, and then overkill switched with worm, and Formerfish switched me and Overkill.
Since this came up let me add something to this clusterfuck. I swapped the Villains center card (farthest right) with Dr Worm's card. Since it was the Henchman #7 card I should have super villainized the Worm and whatever he had should have been the farthest right center card.

I was also late with my action as it was in the last night phase a few hours before deadline, so no idea how much that influenced other actions.

I choosed Dr Worm because he had the most super villain-like name in the player list.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:00 am

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Damn forgot that MS existed.

Anything important in these 74 pages?
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:11 am

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In post 1826, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.
Menno.
S Noodle.

Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

I'm not really interested in forcing people to vote specific ones, but those are the correct choices for every team.
Thanks
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Vorkuta's 0% Guaranteed to be Correct TL;DR claim list, Volume #33,
My project is due Monday yet here I am edition


01
Ausuka
-
Sponge
(Targetted ircher w/ awesome empath) #
02
McMenno
-
Ricochet Rhino
(Or vengeful for all intents and purposes)
03
Invisibility
-
Hunter
(former robber who stole XXX's card)
04
NotMySpamAccount
-
Marksman

05
Jingle
-
Curator
(cursed PP with shamefulness... allegedly... PP is not responding well to it)
06
Pink Ball
-
Villager
Also lover w/ USUX,
07
Flavor Leaf
- Former
vampire
, swapped to a
villain
according to maruchan, and 0verkill's role according to Formerfish
09
Iconeum
- outed as
Alien Zerb
by tris
10
BrightEyedFish
-
Villager
& AMAZING mark of clarity claim. bravo, 10/10, 100% believable and helpful
11
ofrhz
-
Empath

12
rosterfoster
-
Apprentice seer
who picked into copycat (lel)
14
U SUX
-
Annoying Lad
(annoyed redemption) &
LOVER

15
Dr Worm
-
Cursed
(Village if no one votes him, But
wolf
if a wolf votes him) BUT (
Switcheroo
'd by Eyesw/noface)
16
TemporalLich
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Prince
(he thinks he can't die lel)
17
Chemist1422
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Voodoo Lou
(swapped into smth- Voodoo Lou is now a center card)
18
Aristophanes
-
SHIELD TOKENED
(only way for the guy to play is to PoE to figure out what roll his should be)
19
ScreamingNoodle
-
Alien team
represent!
22
Languste
-
Paranormal Investig
.
(CVB = seer, Silver Caydquil = family man)
23
Silver Cyndaquil
=
Third-Party: Familyman
, according to the PI clear ^
24
themilkcartonkid
-
Wolf Minion
(but not anymore :P)
Villain team
represent!!
25
Klick
:
Defender-er

27
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:
Villager
&
duck excrement stain

28
NerfedBuJ
:
CUPID
(gave U SUX and PINK BALL a lover TOKEN)
29
Shad
: former Doppleganger, now
Innocent Bystander
after targetting Mulch
31
tris
:
Alien Groob
(formerly lied about detector, Iconeum is Zerb)
32
ReubenWasFine
:
Villain team
according to Maru,
Villager
hardclaim
33
Gorkington
:
village idiot
(probably didn't activate)
35
RCEnigma
:
Third Party: Tanner's Apprentice

36
Baezu
:
Alien Zerb
but former
Cow

37
PrivateI
:
Drunk
, but currently
unknown center card

38
Tatsuya Kaname
:
Diseased
(ew)
39
Kaniffee
:
Werewolf Nostradamus
(confirmed Elsa's Sentinel, saw a minion)
40
Elsa Jay
:
Sentinel
(put the shield token on Aristophanes)
41
Krazy
- now
Third Party: Assassin
(Formerly
Rascal
swapped with JJH)
Alien helper
represent!!
42
xyzzy
-
Priest
(aristophanes-> This means that if a "vampire" or "assassin" gave him a mark, it's overwritten)
43
Cephrir
-
Instigator
: he turned someone into a traitor (spookyyyy)
44
Emperor flippyNips
-
Innocent Bystander

45
Dr Easy Bake
-
Third party: Mortician

46
NotAJumbleOfNumbers
-
Mason
(w/ irrelephant)
47
racefan12
-
vampire
according to invizzy swap
48
Vorkuta
-
Seal/Turtle/Penguin appendage
I should update this huh
50
Mulch
-
Innocent Bystander

51
Raven1207
-
Rascal
(allegedly the OG
robber
who swapped, also claims
mark of Disease
)
52
Pretty Bird
-
Mystic Wolf
Mystic
- Vax is Exposer
54
jjh927
-
Rascal
(the OG
assassin
but swapped with Krazy)
56
EvilDeanius
-
Insomniac
and woke up as insomniac
57
Chara
-
Villager

58
cvb2009
-
Seer
, Knows left card was a copycat
60
Formerfish
-
Switcheroo

61
Eyes without a face
-
Switcheroo
-> Dr worm's
Cursed
or
Cursed
(glass half full or half empty?)
63
Powerbrand
-
Alien team
represent!
64
Ircher
-
Pickpocket
(finally)
(targetted the_worst & Creature)
65
chennisden
-
Cow
: (Results on bin and ircher= based on claims, assuming not alien results)
66
Bins
-
Bodyguard

68
Creature
- doesn't want to claim but is pretty much going to be outed by Vaxkiller
69
Vaxkiller
-
Exposer
& wants to say that creature is town?
70
Vijarada
-
Beholder
(results on the seers)
72
Firebringer
-...wants to play DnD instead...
73
pytdarque
-
Villager

75
Bellaphant
-
The Thing
,
Squire
According to Reubenwasfire
76
Skellen
-
Witch
(swapped center w/ someone else)
77
Shadoweh
-
Aura Seer
w/
Mark of the Traitor
oh booooy
78
Maruchan
-
Villain Rapscallion

79
Cinnamon
-
Trouble maker

80
Irrelephant
-
Mason
w/ Jumble
81
PenguinPower
-
Alien Bodysnatcher
but
Unknown artifact
> role card. Snatched #42 &
zoo animal excrement stain


New comments:

PLAN so far
Lynch #1 = Tris (#31, Alien Groob)
Lynch #2 = McMenno (#2 Ricochet Rhino) who targets Invisibility (#3 Hunter OR Vampire) who targets a Villain (let's say #32 ReubenwasFire) or a Werewolf (#39 Kaniffee Werewolf Nostradamus) or a Vampire (#47 Racefan...?)

Here are the Wincons!
•Villager Team: 1 Alien (tris) + 1 Vamp OR Villain (via invizzy) =
Check

•Werewolf Team - All Werewolves must survive + 1 1 Alien (tris) + 1 Vamp OR Villain (via invizzy) =
Check

•Zerb - The player survives and at least one Groob dies. =
Check

•Blob Team - All players in the Blob survive =
Check

•Traitor Team: 1 person of his home team (Villager) dies =
Check

•Family Man - His family is fine =
Check

•Vampire Team - All Vampires must survive =
Check
(invizzy no longer vamp based on center card swaps)

•Alien Team - All Aliens must survive =
FAIL

•Villain Team - All Villains must survive =
FAIL

•Synthetic Team - A Synthetic Alien dies =
FAIL

•Groob - The player survives and at least one Zerb dies. =
FAIL

•Tanner Team - A Tanner dies =
FAIL

•Assassin Team - A player with a Mark of the Assassin dies (I'm so sorry Krazy aka alien helper) =
FAIL

•Apprentice Assassin Team - An Assassin dies. =
FAIL

•Mortician Team - At least one neighbor of the Mortician dies =
FAIL
(DrEB, #45)
•Leader - All Groobs and all Zerbs must survive. =
FAIL


-# is a really important read people please enjoy

-Here are the MARKS that you have. You can ONLY HAVE 1.
Spoiler:
-Clarity = DEFAULT- EVERYONE HAS THIS SO STOP CLAIMING IT ALREADY
-Assassin = Targetted by Assassin (Functionally = Lynchee)
-Love = Lover
-Disease = Anyone who votes you loses
-Traitor = Your wincon is 1 of your team dies
-Vampire = Your wincon is now Vampire (and udgaf about your roll card anymore)
-Fear = You've been rollblocked/stopped and you don't do your night action
-Bat = You are not a vampire (wtf game mechanics)

-By popular demand, here is a list of roles that CAN SWAP CARDS in some way/shape/form
(in Night action order because procrastinating is fun)
Spoiler:
Temptress,
Alpha Wolf,
Robber,
Witch,
RoleRetriever,
VooDooLoo (center card face up btw),
Troublemaker,
Village idiot (99% guaranteed to not be active)
Gremlin,
Rascal,
Switcheroo,
Drunk (erm...),


Kindly say stuff
Spoiler:
08 Clemency
13 Redemption
20 daughtersmom
21 0verki11
26 mcqueen
30 Gamma Emerald
34 ziping3
49 PvtUrist
53 BlackStar5931
55 Turin Turambar
59 BearCavalry
62 ZestOfLife
67 Raya36
71 Aronis
74 Voted
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:37 am

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I like how quoting useful posts now counts as participation in this game.

You're welcome players.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:07 am

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In post 1830, Languste wrote:
In post 1826, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 1802, Jingle wrote:Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.
Menno.
S Noodle.

Menno on Vizzy. Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE.

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

I'm not really interested in forcing people to vote specific ones, but those are the correct choices for every team.
Thanks
This is not true.

To only point out one flaw: I, as a Family Man, lose, if tris is being killed.

Not only is it wrong, it is also not smart to propose three people to kill. Town should concentrate on two people, otherwise the evil teams can outvote you. But I don't mind if you are evil, so no need for me to keep thinking about it :b

I think 19 Screaming Noodle and 07 Flavour Leaf are better options. It obviously meets my win condition, but it also seems a lot safer from what has been claimed yet. Just read through the passages that these phrases in the claim chart are based on.


Oh... and if there are some players in my family that are going to be lynched... I am not happy at all. In this case, if too few villagers agree to NOT choose people from 22 to 63, I will coordinate votes FOR TEAM EVIL. By that villagers only have enough power to kill one evil, thus not meeting the win condition and lose. I am one of the very few that can organize it for the baddies, since an actual evil person cannot do it without outing themselves. So better follow my advice! Feels good to be able to decide about the faith of dozens...

I give the villagers a day to respond to the offer. I am also happy with other players but 07 and 19. Just make me an offer!

I really wanna help out the village, because by that most people win. But if my family could be hurt, I will have to be consequent.
The clock is ticking, you 81 people. I leave you to respond.


Btw HOW LONG IS STILL LEFT? WHEN PRECISELY DOES IT END? (:

Tris is #31 and you are #22, both Family Man and Blob have 4 people that they want to save. So how do you lose if Tris is killed?
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:38 am

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Languste's winning conditions

22 Languste
23 Silver Cyndaquil
24 themilkcartonkid
25 Klick
26 mcqueen

27 the worst
28 NerfedBuJ
29 Shad
30 Gamma Emerald
31 tris

Sliver's winning conditions
22 Languste
23 Silver Cyndaquil
24 themilkcartonkid
25 Klick
26 mcqueen
27 the worst

28 NerfedBuJ
29 Shad
30 Gamma Emerald
31 tris


So if anything, voting 22-27 would be the only bad thing
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 1833, Skellen wrote:Since this came up let me add something to this clusterfuck.
*INHALES*
In post 861, Languste wrote:I am the P.I.
*grumbles*
In post 1, Ultra Annaflare wrote:Family Man absorbs the four players to their left (higher numbers)
Modconfirmed so we think you're still good, UNLESS your wincon is like... "everyone in your family wins as well as survives" in which case TMCK might be an issue but *shrugs*

22 Languste- Paranormal Investig. (CVB = seer, Silver Caydquil = family man)
23 Silver Cyndaquil = Third-Party: Familyman, according to the PI clear ^
24 themilkcartonkid- Wolf Minion (but not anymore :P) Villain team represent!!
25 Klick: Defender-er
27 the worst: Villager & duck excrement stain
28 NerfedBuJ: CUPID (gave U SUX and PINK BALL a lover TOKEN)

pedit
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:41 am

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In post 1168, Raven1207 wrote:All I can say is one of the Rascals was the original Rascal.
@Raven
Follow up time!
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:42 am

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Can we kill me, does that still satisfy the conditions?
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:45 am

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@Aristophanes


42 xyzzy- Priest (aristophanes-> This means that if a "vampire" or "assassin" gave him a mark, it's overwritten)

This wording is wrong Assassin and Apprentice Assassin come after Priest so it doesn't undo the Mark of the Assassin. Priest can only override Mark of the Vampire, Mark of Fear, Mark of the Bat, Mark of Love, Mark of Disease, and Mark of the Traitor
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:48 am

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:oops:
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:49 am

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In post 1840, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1168, Raven1207 wrote:All I can say is one of the Rascals was the original Rascal.
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Follow up time!
Ok the Real rascal is Ziping
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:49 am

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In post 1841, Baezu wrote:Can we kill me? does that still satisfy the conditions?
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:54 am

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Right.
I'll drop the obvious "why would you want to die" question and just give you this:
There is only 1 cow and 1 Zerb in play.

09 Iconeum- outed as Alien Zerb by tris
65 chennisden- Cow: (Results on bin and ircher= based on claims, assuming not alien results
36 Baezu: Alien Zerb but former Cow

If everything is 100% honest (somehow) and you are a Zerb right now, yes: we could lynch you which satisfies our alien requirement and the groob team (tris) gets to win.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:57 am

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But doesn’t it help RCE and/or raven more?
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:01 am

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Neither
RCE is an apprentice tanner who's goal is to die and/or get his master tanner lynched (*thinking*)
Also his wincon means that town & all the scum teams lose so.....

Raven is uh.... town... yeah..
Village is fine with any alien lynch so long as it's an actual alien *shivers*
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:09 am

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In post 1848, Vorkuta wrote:Neither
RCE is an apprentice tanner who's goal is to die and/or get his master tanner lynched (*thinking*)
Also his wincon means that town & all the scum teams lose so.....
Town can win with Tanner. You would just have to do a triple death involving 2 of the following:

Werewolf
Vampire
Alien
Super Villain

And then the third being the Tanner.

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