Mini Normal 2080 ft. My Cats [Game Over]

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 1.13

teacher (4):

Cinnamon, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral, teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

EvilDeanius (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

EvilDeanius, Flubbernugget

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[u r a person 2]

urap do u think i should be townreading u here?

of course not

[Nero Cain]

kool, I wasn't really hard scum reading that guy anyways. Let's lynch Teacher.

[skitter30]

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

[Nero Cain]

I’m on a roll

but I like my rolls with butter on them not Ofrhz

[ofrhz]

oh, you!

[u r a person 2]

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

I agree that he did that. I'll take another look tonight or tomorrow. I just wanted to catch up here rq but today was busy and tomorrow is going to be too

[Cinnamon]

I'm sorry I've been kinda lurky the past few days, I'll post some reads tomorrow once I have the time to catch up

[skitter30]

ok, let me know what u think when u get a chance

[skitter30]

to both of u

[teacher]

Greetings. One quiick note from my mobile skim -- real life is definitely a thing. I generally post only late at night/early in the morning and had to finish grades. But I dont think my vork vote came out of nowhere -- see, for example, 86

[teacher]

honestly i'm kinda surprised that the wagon didn't go higher - a lot of people have proclaimed vork to be a scumread but have expressed reluctance in actually voting him

I absolutely agree.

Vork started taking off, getting to four votes and Salad indicating interest in going to five, around 587. But then Salad and Nom switch the momentum to me -- for joining them on someone they scumread (and, in noms case, was also voting).

I absolutely agree that same reads=/ same alignment. But the logic here is escaping me. I think I had been pretty clear from the start that I agreed with Cinnamon/Urap/Nerfed's take on the miller claim, and didnt like Vorkuta/Nero's push. Once Nero town-told, my progression to Vork would seem to be natural (as indeed it was). If Nom really had been trying to get inside my head, I think this would have been clear.

As a result, I think Nom's push at me is a bit of counterwagoning from the one other active slot I didnt call out earlier as town or scum.

[Vorkuta]

Bah just saw the VC
VOTE: Flubber
Beetlejuicing

My gut tells me that one of {ED/Flubber} has pretty damn high scum equity
They've had the opportunity to interact on all of the things right now

I'll sort the rest of you lot in due time

[Detective Pikachu]

I don't think Saladman's kinda nonsensical posting is outside the townrange of someone who two months ago said this in his first game:

I just have no idea how to scum hunt/read so I don't post much.

The one thing that throws me about his reads is actually that I agreed with them and they seemed to have a lot of overlap with my reads; he also forgot to list me but was only townleaning me (I almost thought at first he was sheeping my towncore?). I don't know what to do with all that but the way he presents his thoughts reads a bit like "too lynchbaity to be scum"

Unfortunately he has only rolled town in his newbie games (and this is his first non-newbie game) so there is no scum game for him for comparison.

I guess there's always the chance a scumbuddy was like, "do a reads list so you look less lynchbaity" but, if so, wouldn't his reasons... probably?... make more sense. If he's coached he's not very heavily coached.

[Vorkuta]

nonsensical posting is outside the townrange

Can I get this rephrased please?
I don't want to misinterpret this.

Unfortunately he has only rolled town in his newbie games (and this is his first non-newbie game) so there is no scum game for him for comparison.

me before musicals oh lord
I bragged about how "I only roll town "

If he's coached he's not very heavily coached.

Having just come from a nightchat only game... meh

[teacher]

If he's coached he's not very heavily coached.

Having just come from a nightchat only game... meh

I agree with this reaction. Heavy coaching is pretty rare in the scumthreads I’ve read, even w newbs. And my normal scumroll didn’t have day had so that’s always a possibility.

[Nero Cain]

Do you have any original opinions?

[teacher]

I was talking about the time where I edited one of his posts to just include the relevant portion of his quote and he was all like "why you'd do that?!?"

For the record, snipping the relevant part wasn’t my issue. My issue is that you snipped it so it looked like I said the relevant part, not cinnamon. But this is long ago under the bridge.

[Detective Pikachu]

I don't think Saladman's kinda nonsensical posting is outside the townrange

guess this is kinda a double negative

Basically -- "I don't think saladman writing stuff that reads a bit like nonsense is scum indicative"

[teacher]

Do you have any original opinions?

Me?

No. I skim and have thoughts, but as not surprising in a 13 person game several have said them before I get to sit down.

Rn I feel good about my townreads/leans but don’t have a solid scumread. I tend not to be able to really get my teeth into a game til I feel a lead. I don’t really have one.

I think the nom-vorkuta associative was original. I also think I was early to TR you, with reasoning at least as opposed to just saying it.

I tend to agree with DP that at least one scum is is the entirely empty slots.

But I’m sitill a bit directionless. And before you start saying ask questions, I don’t generally do make work unless a game is stagnant (this is not). I am a reaction player.

[skitter30]

VOTE: evildeanius

[u r a person 2]

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

I agree that he did that. I'll take another look tonight or tomorrow. I just wanted to catch up here rq but today was busy and tomorrow is going to be too

I could see this coming from scum, but from a personality perspective I think the loss of conviction when pressured is probably more likely to come from town!salad. also, this is just a slot better suited to being solved d2 and onwards imo

VOTE: evildeanius

[teacher]

Salad is off meta for me, but my one game with him I was a mod and not a player and there was obv!scum to feel more confident about in general. Anyone else actually played w them before?

[skitter30]

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

I agree that he did that. I'll take another look tonight or tomorrow. I just wanted to catch up here rq but today was busy and tomorrow is going to be too

I could see this coming from scum, but from a personality perspective I think the loss of conviction when pressured is probably more likely to come from town!salad. also, this is just a slot better suited to being solved d2 and onwards imo

VOTE: evildeanius

sooooooo this kind of sheeping makes me nervous

[Nero Cain]

skitter, you gonna be around 4 a bit?