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[the worst]

This setup isn't great but it's kinda better balanced than the current newbie setup, I trust wgeurts to win via dayplay and kinda trust this town to implode within reason :shrug:

[volxen]

Damnit TW, you had like NO associatives (at least on your end) with Wgeurts -- neither of you ever voted for each other, and you hardly mentioned him at all in your ISO. Meanwhile it looked like you were distancing yourself from Dong and CeeJay, lol.

But yeah, this quickhammer is bad not only because one mislynch was wasted on my slot, but it significantly limited RC's content by ending the day 11 days early.

[the worst]

Thanks volxen! I assume you mean the quickhammer was bad for town. Yes it was.

I don't regret turning RC's d1 into an accurate but messy unfocused tunnel on me. I look bad with {you, cjv, pops} before yoghurts he's posting well. Hopefully we got this!

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This setup isn't great but it's kinda better balanced than the current newbie setup, I trust wgeurts to win via dayplay and kinda trust this town to implode within reason :shrug:

The two problems with this setup are the BP and the follow the cop strategy.

BP just isn't very fun, nor does it demonstrate the usual PR play.

Follow the cop is the point of RC's claim strat. You claim BP/NoBP, and then you claim tracker if there's no BP. That way doc can free range target the outed tracker and scum can't get a shot on a conftown PR slot.

I've gone on record a couple times that I think it's an easily exploited strat for scum, however, since if Goon/Goon you can have a relatively safe BP claim 50% of the time. (Cop 9-er, this setup, has the out of "I was doc fakeclaiming BP to duck the nightkill!" that people who aren't on a scumteam with me could use.) Even if you don't have a safe claim, you make the weaker of the scum make the ballsy ass claim, and they can ride at least a couple of dayphases on that. If there's a direct CC, it's from a doc or a BP and you're in tracker territory. You make the BP claim late in the order of BP's to try to cut down on CC's, and even then you have a 50/50 of getting that town lynch through. Doc claim is still a 50/50 at best, but in the worst case scenario, you get to shoot the doc while safe from incriminating tracker results.

It's ballsy, but I think there's enough there to make RC's strat not explicitly the best plan when people like me or FL are in the game.

[the worst]

You'll see in the scum pt I flipped the coin on whether or not to lolclaim bp but it landed wrong!

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It seems like it wasn't super necessary anyway.

Who knew gogurts was so GOAT?

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def gonna be keeping an eye on him for the best newbie scummie. This was an awesome bunch of new players and he's rocking this game

[the worst]

I know right!! Where did this guy come from?!
MaryJoLisa is doing such a great job as SE too. She's come so far. *wipes tear from eye*

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tbf, by the old metrics she actually is an SE. SE used to be 3 games on site in any queue in which you didn't replace before dying, and I think she has at least that.

[the worst]

She is, yeah. She's also gaining experience fast. I'm just enjoying playing along with the newbie/SE/IC roleplay.

[volxen]

Ceejay, as soon as you get mislynched and are granted access to this thread, I expect a complete explanation as to why you did what you did. I don't see how you can think that was acceptable town play,

especially

given our history together.

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That should take about 2 days now.

RC should be joining us tomorrow, unless things change between now and then.

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Welcome RC!

[the worst]

Hello radiantcowbells

[Skygazer]

greetings prince of renais?

[RadiantCowbells]

Well that was total aids

I never got the chance to solve because quickhammer and I had thought that wgeurts treatment of my slot was scummy early

Just so happens that so many townies do the same scummy shit and CJ gamethrew so

Idk I really don't want to count this on my w/l given that I led on scum then quickhammer before I could actually play D2

[RadiantCowbells]

Again wgeuets isn't really playing well

Town is just... worse

[RadiantCowbells]

Same thing I said about wgeurts D1 still applies

Every time townies pull that kind of hyper scum motivated shit around my slot you make room for scum to do it as well. A long time ago I would have just derptunneled wgeurts but I have seen so many town playing against wincon making awful plays that I can no longer assume that people who are making disingenuous moves around me are scum, and that means I can't catch scum when they make disingenuous moves around me.

Whatever rant over.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is why I policy lynched ppl who did what Wgeurts did for the longest time

I may win less games but I never end up in the horrible situation of clearing a player after something I mentally know should be scummy because I've seen a subset of town do it too

[RadiantCowbells]

It's really gaslighting except that it's just as often from my own alignment

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I retroactively give CJ a 0 on supp

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And CJ joins the dead thread, to the surprise of no one, ever.

[RadiantCowbells]

Way to go throwing an unlosable game CJ!!!

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I realize u don't care about the game but why ruin it for others

[the worst]

:c