Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[JordanA24]

Vote Count Updated, Bogre replaces Imat, Xtoxm has told me he'll be very inactive, may well need to replace him, I'll start to find one now. Prodding andesonw and killa seven

[skitzer]

So you all accuse me of lurking, so I try to read through people and find cases on them, and when I do that, you accuse me of creating weak cases? I may not have had full attention on this game, but at least I'm making an effort to get back in.

Also, when I hear "Drug Dealer" I don't instinctively think "pro-town".

[Bogre]

Uhm, wow. 118 pages. Will try and bust through them.

And skitzer, your defense is illogical. Lurking and making weak cases are not necessarily mutually exclusive...if you make a weak case, you make a weak case.

Now, I haven't read your cases yet, but your defense against weak cases doesn't work.

[killa seven]

im here, kinda lost at whats goin on, gimme a few to recouperate.

[skitzer]

I didn't say Celebloki's was the best case in the game. I just gave it as a starting point.

[Matt_S]

Tarh's not back yet. I figured he'd jump on this opportunity now that skitzer's under suspicion again. Even though he's town.

[Bogre]

Okay, when I replace I like to occasionally do an 'impressions thus far'. However please hold in mind I have not read entirely yet to the end of d1, though I am at the point where BM hunted out killa seven's previous role as an SK. I've also read smatterings of the past few pages.

So, impressions thus far (From most of day 1 and the VC) : I am the least happy with Whome and skitzer. Skitzer seems, not really outright scummy but very lax in constructing searches for scum. Whome just seems to be deconstructive, not really forming anything of substance, and pinging on my 'dar. The vote on Armlx, who throughout day one has seemed to be very pro-town, is also part of this. Mr. S I get a mostly neutral read on, I'd like to hear an explanation of your knowledge of skitzer as protown.

Unfortunately doing a post when not fully read only really give me impressions of those peoples post's I've read up until this point...in a game with this many replacements it means I haven't actually read many of the posts by some of the players, and because those 4 are active in d1 it has formed the majority of my opinions as of this moment.

-B.

[curiouskarmadog]

hmmm, Bog's first post mentions not liking the two leading BWs...

skitzer, what exactly are you rereading?

K7, why replace back into the game, if you are not going to keep up?

[Matt_S]

Mr. S I get a mostly neutral read on, I'd like to hear an explanation of your knowledge of skitzer as protown.

Please, call me Matt. Mr. S is my father. *waits for laughter to die down. or start*. I don't feel comfortable doing a full claim at this point.

[curiouskarmadog]

I think matt soft claim is fine atm, there is no need for a full claim.

[Bogre]

I think matt soft claim is fine atm, there is no need for a full claim.

Definitely works. I just read his post above mine right before I posted, didn't know if he had previously claimed/just had towntells or what, and asked instead of going back to search before my power reading had uncovered it.

Believe I'm on page 45ish right now. I understand, though, that Farside is our vig? Confirmed MO of shotgun, correct?

I will be watching for those who seem to be directing the vig as I read catching up, as he's now gunned down 3 innocents, if BM was a townie. (In green, 'respected' drug dealer sounds plausible for a miller flavor...but I think I need to read more cause it seems he also claimed other things?? not sure on that point.)

Unfortunately, I am still post-lynch d1, (damn ya'll took a long time with d1), and personally I would have instavigged TLP for that sketchy unvote and never really scumhunting afterwards, which means that we just might be unfortunate to have some scummy looking townies (perhaps new-players unsure of what exactly they're doing?)

If each player could please post one or two other players who they think is guilty of vig-directing, or vig-influencing in a scummy manner, -or- if you believe farside has been group directed as an extra lynch, and explain your reasoning. I want to try out an analysis.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So you all accuse me of lurking, so I try to read through people and find cases on them, and when I do that, you accuse me of creating weak cases? I may not have had full attention on this game, but at least I'm making an effort to get back in.

What bogre said. . . you don't get a mulligan for spending most of the game not making cases at all.

I'm content with matt_s softclaiming for now, as well, and since kscope has mostly disappeared, I suppose I'll stop harassing His Uselessness.

Unvote, vote whome.

For the repeated popping up only when mentioned and then disappearing.

[curiouskarmadog]

Bog, the reason the thread is so long is because BM inflated it with many posts (I guess, on his conquest to be the top poster of the site)...however, I thought at the time he was flooding the thread for more dubious reasons.

right now, I am leaning still on skitzer as scum...I dont recall him directing the vig at any point.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Eh... yeah, I should be getting back to this...

[armlx]

If each player could please post one or two other players who they think is guilty of vig-directing

Anyone who actively pressed for a Lloyd vig N1.

[curiouskarmadog]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Eh... yeah, I should be getting back to this...[/quote]

yeah, if you could start by addressing 2907.

[Matt_S]

It confuses me that people don't question my softclaim, while also thinking the people I say are town are scum. And I miss Tarh's fishing.

[andersonw]

Apparently, everyone ignored my last post.

I don't really feel like rereading right now, so could someone tell me what happened so far or give me some pages to read through?

I might do a quick skimthrough of day 3, but there is no way I can read all of that unless if I somehow get lots of free time.

I also don't understand what's going on with Tar accusing Matt and the breadcrumbing. Was there a time in the game when Matt said that he was sure that skitzer/K-scope were town?

[andersonw]

EBWOP: I should add to my last question, "Was there a time in the game

before day 4 started

when Matt said that he was sure that skitzer/K-scope were town?"

[Bogre]

halfway done this is a monster of a game

[Matt_S]

EBWOP: I should add to my last question, "Was there a time in the game

before day 4 started

when Matt said that he was sure that skitzer/K-scope were town?"

I mentioned skitzer was town yesterday I'm thinking, and Kscope today.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="curiouskarmadog"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Eh... yeah, I should be getting back to this...[/quote]

yeah, if you could start by addressing 2907.[/quote]I believe that if you think fishing is a townie thing to do without really good reasoning behind, I consider it scummy. I've stated that my role is confirmable, but doing it now will only hurt the town. I believe that is sufficient to say considering I'm not in the risk of being lynched yet. TSPN asks for eleboration even after this statement, which I consider idiotic and scummy

[farside22]

EBWOP: I should add to my last question, "Was there a time in the game

before day 4 started

when Matt said that he was sure that skitzer/K-scope were town?"

I mentioned skitzer was town yesterday I'm thinking, and Kscope today.

Fine, fine. Then who do you find scum at the moment then?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

K-scope: I asked you if you knew what fishing was.

You still haven't proven it.

If you don't want to be treated like a fool, play like you aren't one.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

K-scope: I asked you if you knew what fishing was.

You still haven't proven it.

If you don't want to be treated like a fool, play like you aren't one.

I know what fishing is. I know fishing has multiple lairs and players have multiple visions on it. Just because you probably have a different vision (Since you are implying that), it doesn't mean the other player is stupid, a fool or a worse player.