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boop

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VOTE: pisskop

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yo that red vote looks town
.but that said vote looks like it'll be popular as traffic jams

VOTE: saud

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ugh

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A canned vote, a gimmicky prose, and whats worse, its jesus from the talk show.

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What, we can tell people to replace out?

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Ask them in your PT what to do.

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Reds looking scummy.


To clarify my comment earlier, when I said redvote looks town I was refering to Lucky Otter.

VOTE: red

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Am I tripping

Ahh, thats the gesees I know and love.

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Same reason Alchi and Lucky Otter voted you

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Nope. The vote after the comment.

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Maybe it was bad timing.
Maybe it was an innocent chain of kind of a scummy events.
Maybe it was a telling scumslip up.

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ennui much creature

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Hmm no not a fan of Montosh here.

yes, this.

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Do you know Swims?

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When Im actually on a computer I usually cycle through 3-5 forums, and quite regularly

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Thats the attitude to have in a large, too.

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Red youve got 8 or so votes on you. its 10 to lynch.

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Can you claim please? Its anti-town not to, and if scum youre gonna fakeclaim anyway - so lets keep the game moving.

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ahhhh.

I took 'uninformed' to mean 'I do not posses the role modifier 'informed''.

Hey, ED, what's your opinion of Nero and I trying to force a claim out of Red?

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Im home, let me think how to proceed here.

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I want to say thats probably premature.

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Spoiler: Ofrhz

I was almost gonna say "Hi Skitter" to you

Red and Montosh are probably not scum together

What? Why would you guys want him to claim already

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Montosh feels different enough from Mini 2075 that he can be town for now

Why did you feel the need to say that you’re uninformed?

I want to say Kirari is probably town

ugh, I feel like this drips town, in a sickly way. I want to say its almost LAMIST

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Ill probs get over that feel, but I

feel

like itll be best if I mark it down now.

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I want to say thats probably premature.

so are you

bug oof

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Feel like Red is still scummy.

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Red youve got 8 or so votes on you. its 10 to lynch.

Well, 6 votes before ofrhz blanched and bailed.

I know, I just wanted to press out the claim before a VC.

maybe I pulled the trigger too soon?

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The way the Red wagon built up was just not right. And what's with this claim nonsense?

- Swims
- Nero
- pisskop
- *maybe* Red if the wagon is less bad

@LuckyOtter What do you think about Red?

I am under the impression that this is a scumlist.

I dont really get the Swims SRs. Maybe Ill iso them after.

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I read this and thought I had scum pt access for a sec.

yea this is both funny and ironic because its plausible you might.

+style points though.

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This game feels smaller than it actually is.

kind of. Im not fully engaged here yet.

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Khan is probably Town.

He's definitely matured as a player.

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I think is okay for now.

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Trying too hard. This is scum. Luckily I'm already voting here.

you know, tenetively cast me into the 'this guys might be town' camp, pending some metadiving i wont be bothered to do for a while.

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Kind of think we might be seeing the Scumcritter game today

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I think is okay for now.

Kop is okay.

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They arent as comprehensive as I want.

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Explain?

Maybe it is how you play town, but I just feel like its too clean. Im not about to vote you over it, it just feels like a lot of effort.

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Yea. I think its just a playstyle thing, but Im interested in seeing if it continues, or if the pattern changes.

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2 posts.

Youre going to vote HWS over 2 posts?

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yes?

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Theyre very clipped.

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royal you

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I wouldn't mind switching my vote over to you. It's your call. I just can't decide if you are defending your partner or white knighting.

what a weaksauce thing to say

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lemme help you since youre so incapable of making your own choices

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crap.

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Nothing takes the piss out of your sails quite like screwing up

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I think jesus lacks conviction. A faithless preacher or a ___ ___ servant of god?

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Look sat this guys voting record. Its literally all LHF or noncontent posters.

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Self-voting now is the same as scum-claiming....

why is that?

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Jesus' ISO looks as bad as 2 of the three people he is trying to vote.
Id say it part of the gimmick this alt has.

Peace be upon you all.

I eagerly await some fine gaming time in this group.

VOTE: EvilDeanius

Montosh is 100% town.

Hmm no not a fan of Montosh here. Too serious a reaction and I think Nero has a fair point in reacting to that.

Also it only took Saudade 2 pages to blow up the game, nice.

I read this and thought I had scum pt access for a sec.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

pisskop

It's appreciated.

VOTE: pisskop

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do you TR jesus rooster?

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Did you suddenly become tone deaf Pisskop?

No, but damned if Im going to admit I look like a fool

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I R Jesus

Id push you a little harder on this but I kind of tr you. I dont feel like this is your scumgame.

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trying to remove responsibility for the action is scummy, isnt it?

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I get you want to pressure somebody, but why would you phrase in a way so as to make it not your choice? Otter is asking why you were voting Swims at all if you thought I was scum in every scenario.

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Swims wagon because I like that wagon as well.

I mean, its an empty slot, with empty votes on them. If this were page 3 I feel it would be a good wagon.


rn he's not even committed to the game.

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PK could have persuaded me otherwis

I mean, I take it to mean you have no experience with me at all then? Cuz thats not at all how Ive traditionally rolled.

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lazy. The self vote was obviously unintentional

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It's time for a scum Creature.
VOTE: Creature

VOTE: creature

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Sure. Should we let people with bad posts go scot free if they haven't made enough. HWS can post more if he has a problem with it.

Go after every Low Content Poster on site and see how long it takes to pull your hair out.

gotta read people on things other than content. Im not TRing him, Im saying this wagon is going to waste our time and kill our momentum.

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Nah. It was a pressure post gone wrong.

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Thats a bit better, tbh.

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why? should I be afraid of a vote on me when I'm L-8?

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it's more entertaining this way, plus the unexpected nature draws reactions.

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le sigh

mechanically you are all right of course.

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stuck keys mean you spilled soda or crumbs under them.

There is an on-screen keyboard, and Ive had some success with speech to text, but Id recommend you clean you keyboard.

you can also buy external keyboards for a laptop

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Okay, jesus gets ignored until I decide to vote it.

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I think "empty posting" is telling for scum personally - making posts that seem relevant but arent really saying anything. Of course meta plays a role here too

I mean I have towngames where Im in danger of mislynch because I dont post and scumgames where I am the top poster.

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Does creature just play lynchbait?

Creature are you still scumreading vork? Thoughts on anyone else?

Define 'bait


Gotta read people on more than just content.

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What do we have besides "content" to go on?

meta
personality
intention
level of play
consistency over time
Night Action Results

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creature is scum still.

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You know, when you put it that way . . .

VOTE: unvote
VOTE: creature

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oh hey, this game is kind of in my periphery.

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I'm prodging but should be on tonight

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hunh?

aint I scum tho

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opps/

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Anyway here I am, to solve the game!

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I think you are both town, now lets lynch a useless Creature slot.

VOTE: Creature

L-1

ugh

Doesnt it bother you to vote with me heyzues?

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I could make that wagon on me dissipate with one single line, but I want to pinpoint the scum on it first.

Amright?

VOTE: Swims

this is rooster.

I like this particular post.

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Oh yay. Scum self-meta. Scum never do this!

Vorki is actually townish in that post you quoted. I dont remember my read on him this game tho.

Stop it skitter.

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I meant to go into this more “guns blazing!” than I have so far and I’m sorry about that. Things have been busier than expected today but I expect I’ll be all caught up soon.

Are you saying you have a gun?

I kind of read it as "look at me being cheeky" more than rolefishing. The way I reacted was more like than

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Creature(6)pisskop,Vorkuta,Kop,Nero Cain,Jesus Louisus,Alchemist21,

HeWhoSwims(5)Kublai Khan,ofrhz,LuckyOtter,rosterfoster,Creature,

This is good. Let us make them dance for us.

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Heyyyyy guyyys

This is my first mafia game EVER so i'm very NERVOUS about it

also, what a coincidence! i ended up rolling mafia in my first mafia game!

upsy-daisy me huh :' )))))

go easy on me okk?!

i'm an inoffensive cute newbie button after all.

ummmmm your avatar reminds me of shiro

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Thought Kop might be town but that's a pretty scummy entrance

ugh

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is this where i'm supposed to write something cool?

Nadhia or something? I know ive seen this sig before

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A canned vote, a gimmicky prose, and whats worse, its jesus from the talk show.

bad post

Y

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zzz

FUUUUUU~~~

Its like right there on the tip of my "i dont want to waste an hour combing through my games to find out!'

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VOTE: RedFlavor

I Tr them,

They feel oddly organic or 'holistic' here.

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On tone I tr this guy, but on content I dont have a firm read.

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Creature(5)pisskop,Vorkuta,Nero Cain,Jesus Louisus,Alchemist21,

HeWhoSwims(3)ofrhz,LuckyOtter,rosterfoster,

KopNiko(3)Kirari Momobami,Eyes without a face,Kublai Khan,

ugh.

The niko wagon was built wrong. we were doing good with the competing wagons.

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Achi-haul is town

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My ex-fiance got me into the band. I do dig their new album.

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would not be surprised to find out kokichi was an alt of this gal.

I know its a gal, and I know when. vgaaahahahdhd

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as in female in gender preference

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I could go for Kublai + Eyes + LuckyOtter right now tbh

Im meh on eyes, kind of town on kublai,and trish on lucky.


Im just gonna call you kain tepes and pretend you arent an alt/

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With 18 players we have either balls an sk or 4 scum

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VOTE: vork i dont honestly remember how to feel about him

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I dont think it presently matters tbh.

maybe having more than 3 SRs isnt a bad thing tho?

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niko

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Like?

ecample

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cuz im drinky kop rn. so nows the chance.

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rihgt


sp pntop why im scummy

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[cough]

righht

so onto why i am scummyy

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dUUUUUUST RISES AGAIN

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d3 is ofrz

Y?

like d1we lyncj niko

Y?

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Im in like 5 larges ohh plz forgive me for my inattentiveness to 1130 and old doggo.

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yes

kk is my spirit animal

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d3 is ofrz

Y?

like d1we lyncj niko

Y?

at least I'm classy enough to not quote myself or question nero putting me in his mislynch rotation

but why orfz?

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VOTE: roster rooster

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By this logic it would also be impossible for you to make posts such as "I would be fine with a lynch on me" as scum, but it seems like you've made them as scum before.

Did I ask for someone to be lynched after I flip though? The key idea here is YOU GET LYNCHED if I'm town. I explicitly said to consider it your vig shot if you were a real vig.

This sounds really mundane. lets kill a bird instead.

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*yawn*

someone is a vig right? Sounds solved to me.

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in all seriousness. Ill read it later, after this current spat has concluded. then Ill decided who should die.

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@pisskop - You seem to be dancing around trying to find a counter wagon without making a definitive read on Niko. The most you seem to have made is a wishy-washy "tone is town, but content is bad" (paraphrased). Could you give a definitive read on Niko? (preferably sober)

you cant just let me be? [sigh] sure gimme some time.

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Playing scum in this playerlist seems kind of easy to be honest...

Ok. Too easy.

VOTE: Niko

So are we lynching Creature or peepeekop now?

ugh


just ugh

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feel like this is a slightly above average level of nuance for scum although Vork's iso overall is kinda light for what I've seen glancing at his other games

A bit of a spammer and lighthearted joker he is.

Idk how I feel about him here. Empty is not a good sign i think.

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(the last one was Almost50, the older one was Firebringer iirc)

Neither one is known for their serious tone and indepth analysis

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Eyes feels pretty town to me.

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Wellllllll, maybe not super town, but townish

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upsy daisy me

Spoiler: upsy daisy

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also luckyotter has lots of undercutting reads what is essentially what scum loves to do so...

This felt town.

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uhhhh

I'm getting lazy about reading 27 pages tbh...

can i pretend i've read it and you guys go along with it???

ugh

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that's it for today...?

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Montosh town
Creature prob town
Anime alt prob town as long as they confirm their role being babysitter
Alch more likely town than not
Jesus more likely town than not but less confident

Eyes scummy
HWS more likely scum than not
Red very meh
Pisskpop and Luckyotter are shady

ftm Ill townbin them. I have enough SRs to feel okay with that.

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drunk thing was an act

ochies

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So you dont TR niko then?

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lol well my reads are posted, come and vote roster.

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niko seems like theyre committed to a playstyle, not scum dodging a rope.

roster is scum. scum takes priority to noisy.

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ugh they arent tho.

probs eyes. but who knows if niko doesnt have a serious bone in their body?

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You wouldnt be pushing a false dichotomy to distract me from the ankle-sized scum pecking at my feet would you?

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f he's an SK then mafia have a TON of motivation to want that alive.

Only if he isnt going to shoot them. SKs are double edged that way.


Id want it dead on N2 or 3 if i were scum. Being potentially immune/resilient to bullets is not a trait scum is fond of. Lynch it when it can die.

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ugh they arent tho.

Do you think that there's much of a chance that anyone but eyes or niko gets lynched?

Vote roster with me and lets find out.

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between niko and Eyes.

Like the squabble is over a post that says a thing? or something?

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I remember it being bad. Plus one of them being a vig ensures it wont be a problem for town for too long.

Let them live.

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Its not like we will suddenly forget niko/eyes was a vig and let them into lylo.

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I think if i were scum i wouldnt push the sk overtly, but once wagoned Id not pass that chance up and id tunnel it to death.

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You dont let bulletproof otherscum walk away from the rope. who knows when itll be back, and plus its a bad look when we go back to scumhunting reds again.

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I think if i were scum i wouldnt push the sk overtly, but once wagoned Id not pass that chance up and id tunnel it to death.

you mean like you are doing now?

"let him live, but n2,d3 he needs death"

I think youre getting confused.

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meow

so people dont like deusvail?

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Its not like we will suddenly forget niko/eyes was a vig and let them into lylo.

here you say that we should make sure that niko should be lynched b4 lylo.

Id want it dead on N2 or 3 if i were scum.

and here.

niko seems like theyre committed to a playstyle, not scum dodging a rope.

here you are writing them off over NAI reasons.

Let them live.

I dont get what youre saying?

Yes, and claimed vig should be scrutinized in lylo if they live that long.
yes, if i am scum i would push the hell out of them now, and id want to kill a vig/sk on night 2 or 3 if their reads were bad
yes, I am saying that their spat and '1v1' (which it is not) is silly and dumb and i will not feed into it when I sr other people much much more.

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And yes, Im giving you my opinion of what optimal scumplay here is. And it is also selfmeta.

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I would not 'leave them along' if:

- their reads were any good
- they were heavily wagoned
- there was a 1v1 and I could get townpoints for hunting a scumnugget

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Idk why you want to kill the vig. is niko claiming vig?


Leave the vig alive. Why not leash it? If it is an sk, we can lynch it later.

this logic isnt really flying for me, because the SK wants to kill town by day and scum by night.

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Opps. other way around


SK is scumhunting by day and townhunting at night.

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SK is scumhunting

So does niko fit this nero?

cuz I dont think you think so.

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Its not like we will suddenly forget niko/eyes was a vig and let them into lylo.

Yeah, but Niko has already "haha, that's not my role" twice. If we leave it and wait to ask Niko days later "hey, what happened with your vig shot?", he's just going to be "haha, no. I was never a vig. just a clever gambit!". Again.

i sighed when i read this.

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why cant people just be serious?

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25p had only 4 man

why the hell would I think that 18p had 4 man and not 3 man with a babysitter claimed?

babysitter is like the kind of protective you would put in a game where you want people to die fast

14:4 with the risk of town dying because of night actions is kind of stupid imo and i believe nk15 knows that

also nero, why do you think I'm bulletproof?

boommm

do you get why I will rather believe in 3p and not 4p, or is it too hard?

its too hard. I believe 15:3 or 14:4 is neither important to distinguish rn nor worth insulting people over

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I'm an Even Night Vigilante, not bulletproof.


I'm an Even Night Vigilante, not bulletproof.

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No guys, still think we let them shoot something. Still rather believe them.

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Not enough to fite you on this.

But like wtf except the most arrogant claims BP, then walks that back and claims Vig, then expects not to be called an SK?

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And like, as a town aligned player, Id rather leash the vig/sk than kill it D1 along with all the scum who just caught a break?

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le sigh

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intent

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tomorrow morning, in about 16 hours

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and so roster was policy lynched the very next day

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Dead people don't talk.
Do not talk when dead.