Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Fuscosco]

Im just trying to untangle a clear mess.

I think your governance could have been better implemented.

[Fuscosco]

N1 - Percy

with RCEnigma

RCE what results did you get on yourself? Motion, because of your own detection?

I was told no other actions were taken on or by me.

Folks, we have a 1v1 here; these claims are mutually exclusive.

VOTE: insomnia

why insomnia?

[Fuscosco]

Im just trying to untangle a clear mess.

I think we can take it 1 step at a time.
Step 1 is one that doesnt incriminate anyone. And clears up the facts we're working with.

[insomnia]

I don’t get the town motivation behind jumping the gun when you have no clear information on how actions are perceived and why you wouldn’t want to discuss mechanics first.

[insomnia]

I think RCE tracked Percy and got a no detection result.

[Persivul]

Im just trying to untangle a clear mess.

I think your governance could have been better implemented.

I'm never going to override the majority vote. Blake was riding me and wasn't going to stop. Governor in general is usually town, and with self-targeting and considering current site meta on making things easy for towns, there's no way scum gets that role. So, I think it was a pretty good idea to prove my role (also it expired today anyway). I don't like being in evens, but there was also a chance of a blocked kill keeping us ion odds. I'm somewhat surprised that the JKs didn't target each other last night.

[RCEnigma]

No I was explicitly told I motion detected myself and that no other actions were taken on me.

[Persivul]

I think RCE tracked Percy and got a no detection result.

No I was explicitly told I motion detected myself and that no other actions were taken on me.

Interesting. Need to think on this one.

[RCEnigma]

Im just trying to untangle a clear mess.

I think your governance could have been better implemented.

I'm never going to override the majority vote. Blake was riding me and wasn't going to stop. Governor in general is usually town, and with self-targeting and considering current site meta on making things easy for towns, there's no way scum gets that role. So, I think it was a pretty good idea to prove my role (also it expired today anyway). I don't like being in evens, but there was also a chance of a blocked kill keeping us ion odds. I'm somewhat surprised that the JKs didn't target each other last night.

Ehh we pushed JKs to pseudo clear 2 slots instead.

[Persivul]

Pseudo-clear?

JKs don't clear unless there's only one scum, and that's unlikely. In minis with a 3P, every one that I've played was 9:3:1 except for one 10:2:1, and a number of people complained that was townsided (including town). Blake is pushing the one scum left scenario, and she requested to be jailed last night.

[RCEnigma]

Establishes a pair that couldn't kill but I get your point.

[Persivul]

But continue with your awful push by all means. Also Fusc is confirmed scum in ANY world of 2 remaining scum.

How do you figure that?

[Persivul]

Establishes a pair that couldn't kill but I get your point.

Yeah, they couldn't be scum together, but either one could be scum with a different partner.

[RCEnigma]

Yep, I know fmpov it doesn't help but I can't really say hey no guys, don't jail me.

[Persivul]

What were all your targets and results?

[Blake Belladonna]

Pseudo-clear?

JKs don't clear unless there's only one scum, and that's unlikely. In minis with a 3P, every one that I've played was 9:3:1 except for one 10:2:1, and a number of people complained that was townsided (including town). Blake is pushing the one scum left scenario,

and she requested to be jailed last night.

This is an interesting take, considering that there was talk of jailing me before I ever mentioned anything about it.

[RCEnigma]

N0 Skitter - no motion
N1 MKM/Succinct - redirected and targeted self (no further motion on or by me)
N2 Tris/Blake - motion(claimed visitor)
N3 no result

[RCEnigma]

I suggested jailing you. You said fine.

[Persivul]

This is an interesting take, considering that there was talk of jailing me before I ever mentioned anything about it.

Fair enough, but note that you didn't quote anyone when you said that so in your ISO it looks proactive.

[Persivul]

No I was explicitly told I motion detected myself and that no other actions were taken on me.

N0 Skitter - no motion
N1 MKM/Succinct - redirected and targeted self (no further motion on or by me)
N2 Tris/Blake - motion(claimed visitor)

N3 no result

Are the boldeds referring to the same night?

[Persivul]

Or no, 2006 refers to N1, correct?

[Persivul]

Just moving this up to the same page

For me night one is the first night, language barrier.

But yeah, night one for me = night 0

N0 - Percy with Irrelephant
N1 - Percy with RCEnigma
N2 - Myself with Blake
N3 - Ceejay with Blake failed

[RCEnigma]

2006 refers to night 1 yes.

[Persivul]

I think RCE tracked Percy and got a no detection result.

With a standard bus driver, that's not how it works. The driver switches actions taken ON the two players, not actions taken BY them. So, RCE targeted a mirror and it got reflected back to himself. You didn't switch that part. RCE saw no action on himself. But, you say you took an action on him.

Looks like one of you are lying.

[Persivul]

UNVOTE:

Due to the above, and because I'm going on VLA later today and through the weekend.