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[rosterfoster]

- Anti RedFlavor-wagon for the sake of being against a wagon.

Where? I don’t see much of that at all. If you’re talking about his latest post then I see that as not liking the people on the wagon.

I don’t see why any of your reasons make Montosh scummy.

[Kublai Khan]

- Anti town-tells

The post I think you’re referring to I know is personal opinion because *reasons* so isn’t scummy in the slightest

It refers to Post 99.

Is there a reason that you've appointed yourself as Montosh's lawyer and/or spokesperson?

[rosterfoster]

Im mason

Why in the ever loving fuck would you claim that? just gonna let scum nk you and if they don't we'll just pl you if we haven't game solved yet.

I am 25% sure this was a joke post because I think Nero has played with Saudade before where something similar happened (I need to fact check this)

the question wasn't actually rhetorical but thinking about it I guess it doesn't matter in the long run.

He just finished a week long ban for talking about ongoing games directly related to saying "im mason" in every game. The mason thing was either meme or an FU to the mods but probably had little to nothing to do with this game.

This was posted almost immediately after the mason claim, and before Montosh specifically had posted anything.

Your argument can

maybe

be stretched to include Flavour but it’s a huge stretch (I also don’t know if RF has played with Saudade before)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Im mason

Anyone who has played with Saudade before knows not to take this seriously. So anything about this is NAI IMO.

If RedFlavor and Montosh knew that Saudade always said that and it means nothing, then decided to keep this information to themselves as other players blasted Saudade, then it is Alignment Indicative. It advances the scum's goal of keeping town against town.

It could also mean that they thought the average player wouldn’t believe anyone claiming mason the way Saudade did.

[rosterfoster]

- Anti town-tells

The post I think you’re referring to I know is personal opinion because *reasons* so isn’t scummy in the slightest

It refers to Post 99.

Is there a reason that you've appointed yourself as Montosh's lawyer and/or spokesperson?

Yeah that’s what I thought. For *reasons* I know that is not at all scummy for Montosh to say.

I think you’re town and you’re just completely on the wrong track with Montosh, so I want to fix you <3

[Kublai Khan]

- Anti RedFlavor-wagon for the sake of being against a wagon.

Where? I don’t see much of that at all. If you’re talking about his latest post then I see that as not liking the people on the wagon.

I don’t see why any of your reasons make Montosh scummy.

Montosh's actual latest post:

The way the Red wagon built up was just not right.

How do you read that as "not liking the people"? He specifically says "the way".

I think you’re town and you’re just completely on the wrong track with Montosh, so I want to fix you <3

So I should just trust you because of your assumptions based on vague *reasons*? That's iffy.

If you're sticking your neck out, then give me more reason to trust you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This game feels smaller than it actually is.

[rosterfoster]

How do you read that as "not liking the people"? He specifically says "the way".

Presumably he likes the way the Swim wagon built up because it was him and his town reads (this is basically coming from him posts)

If you don’t like the way a wagon built up them it would probably be due to the people on it. I know some people don’t like it when a wagon goes too fast but that tends to be bs especially D1.

In what other way could you not like how a wagon built up?

[rosterfoster]

If you want a more concrete meta example, Montosh’s play here is completely different from viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79638 where he was lynched D1.

[Kublai Khan]

Im mason

Anyone who has played with Saudade before knows not to take this seriously. So anything about this is NAI IMO.

If RedFlavor and Montosh knew that Saudade always said that and it means nothing, then decided to keep this information to themselves as other players blasted Saudade, then it is Alignment Indicative. It advances the scum's goal of keeping town against town.

It could also mean that they thought the average player wouldn’t believe anyone claiming mason the way Saudade did.

Sure, this whole game is based on interpretation of actions. rosterfoster is telling me that he has reasons beyond what I can see. He's being vague so at this point I can only assume why.

This game feels smaller than it actually is.

There are outskirts people. That's their folly. I think that if strong town players discuss strongly now, then we can form a town block. Non-participating scum are going to be the first picked off.

[Alchemist21]

Khan is probably Town.

[rosterfoster]

Sure, this whole game is based on interpretation of actions. rosterfoster is telling me that he has reasons beyond what I can see. He's being vague so at this point I can only assume why.

The whole Saudade thing was pointed out almost immediately as I said earlier.

Montosh didn’t post in the intermediate time (btw I don’t know if Montosh knows Saud) so I don’t get how you can scumread that.

[Alchemist21]

@Roster,

are you the kind of player that Townhunts?

[Kublai Khan]

How do you read that as "not liking the people"? He specifically says "the way".

Presumably he likes the way the Swim wagon built up because it was him and his town reads (this is basically coming from him posts)

If you don’t like the way a wagon built up them it would probably be due to the people on it. I know some people don’t like it when a wagon goes too fast but that tends to be bs especially D1.

In what other way could you not like how a wagon built up?

Man, if only there was a way to understand Montosh's thoughts on this. I mean, I could put it out there and wait to see how he reacts and explains himself. Since he's alive and totally capable of explaining his actions. That's certainly one way that makes total sense.

But naw, it's obviously much better for a separate person, who conveniently thinks I'm town, to totally answer for Montosh by presuming every action Montosh does is town for vague undefined *reasons* and have him ask me really weird hypotheticals to away me.

You're really not convincing me that Montosh is town. You're only convincing me that you either have a vested interest in keeping Montosh alive or... you're really bad at using meta.?

[rosterfoster]

Sure, this whole game is based on interpretation of actions. rosterfoster is telling me that he has reasons beyond what I can see. He's being vague so at this point I can only assume why.

The whole Saudade thing was pointed out almost immediately as I said earlier.

Montosh didn’t post in the intermediate time (btw I don’t know if Montosh knows Saud) so I don’t get how you can scumread that.

@Roster,

are you the kind of player that Townhunts?

I try to hunt both town and scum.

KK is the most towniest town I have ever seen though, which is good.

You haven’t quite addressed my point on the fact that your scumread about the mason thing doesn’t make any sense, because its fakeness was pointed out almost immediately.

[Alchemist21]

I think Roster’s scum trying to pocket a range of people. Their only scumread is HeWhoSwims which they’ve voted 3 separate times so far. Meanwhile there’s a handful of Townreads that were given in quick succession. I don’t see the sincerity behind most of their reads. The defense of Montosh feels like they’re white-knighting a Townie.

VOTE: RosterFoster

[rosterfoster]

I pocket KK there by backing down but ok

RF is also a (weaker) scumread of mine, but there is nothing wrong with only having one scumread by this stage.

[Alchemist21]

It looks like you’re just wagoning RF for the sake of it. I don’t you have too few scumreads, I think you have too many Townreads. I don’t like the exaggeration on how strong your Khan read is either.

[rosterfoster]

For once I’m not actually exaggerating that.

[Alchemist21]

That makes it worse.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.2

LuckyOtter(0)

Nero Cain(1)HeWhoSwims,

rosterfoster(1)Alchemist21,

ofrhz(0)

Alchemist21(0)

Vorkuta(1)Creature,

EvilDeanius(0)

pisskop(1)RedFlavor,

BodhiSmith13(0)

HeWhoSwims(4)Lil Uzi Vert,Montosh,Jesus Louisus,rosterfoster,

Kop(0)

RedFlavor(3)LuckyOtter,pisskop,Kublai Khan,

Saudade

Lil Uzi Vert(1)Kirari Momobami,

Kublai Khan(0)

Creature(1)Vorkuta,

Montosh(1)Nero Cain,

Jesus Louisus(0)

Kirari Momobami(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(4)EvilDeanius,BodhiSmith13,Kop,ofrhz,

With 18 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-06-26 13:21:00)

[RedFlavor]

I knew I am mason was a meme.

[Alchemist21]

@Mod, can we get vote counts sorted by who has the most votes please?

[RedFlavor]

@Mod, can we get vote counts sorted by who has the most votes please?

+1

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Vorkuta

: Why are you voting for Creature again?