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[pisskop]

They arent as comprehensive as I want.

[pisskop]

Explain?

Maybe it is how you play town, but I just feel like its too clean. Im not about to vote you over it, it just feels like a lot of effort.

[ofrhz]

A lot of effort?

[pisskop]

Yea. I think its just a playstyle thing, but Im interested in seeing if it continues, or if the pattern changes.

[Montosh]

Add me to the group of people that sense strong scum-vibes coming off Montosh.

Will do. Thanks for your contribution.

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- I honestly didn't love red's initial vote on pisskop. Just pings me as the scum thing to do to jump on the self vote right away like that. (Side note: Vork voted here as well, but showed some self-awareness about it that seemed more towny to me)
- Some fluffy posts, even when things start to move along a little (with the exception of saying he doesn't see why NC's random list is getting negative attention, which I can agree with)
- Early wagons are good and didn't/don't see a need to drop this one yet until I can do some more sorting

See I don't disagree about Red but I personally wasn't a fan of the way the wagon happened. Not so much how quick, but rather who was on it and how some tried to get a weird early claim out. The process felt scummy and so that's why I hesitate.

In regards to the pisskop vote... I don't like self-voting in general and I feel like it's a legitimate thing to do on page 1, given that it was really the first thing to happen in a low-info stage, so that in particular seems NAI to me. And yeah the fluff is bad. Though I disagree about the NC list thing.

It

wasn't getting much attention aside from KK irrc, more my joke reaction to it was.

[Montosh]

Montosh
- Ignored mason claim.

I usually ignore RVS claims which are clearly not serious but sure whatever floats your boat

- Anti town-tells

I too enjoy this vague use of words

- Anti RedFlavor-wagon for the sake of being against a wagon.

I expressed concerns about the way the wagon built up. I do, in general, care about how a wagon was built and not just against whom it is targetted.

Vorkuta
- Weird Post 238.

I see nothing wrong with this post and kinda agree with it. I generally think lurking is scummy and to me not posting is scummy too so meh.

[Montosh]

I think Roster’s scum trying to pocket a range of people. Their only scumread is HeWhoSwims which they’ve voted 3 separate times so far. Meanwhile there’s a handful of Townreads that were given in quick succession. I don’t see the sincerity behind most of their reads. The defense of Montosh feels like they’re white-knighting a Townie.

VOTE: RosterFoster

If roster is scum trying to pocket me it's working and under most circumstances I might agree but I've recently finished a game with town!roster and this feels similar so far.

@Mod, can we get vote counts sorted by who has the most votes please?

+1 to this as well.

[Montosh]

I'm with piss here. If this is a scum list and he's legit scum reading me doesn't that prove 90 was serious and that he's lying when he says it wasn't?

It could be that I'm lying. Or it could be that since then you've reacted in a scummy way to a joke post and tried to get a premature claim on someone after joining a pretty shitty wagon.

It's definitely one of those two.

[RedFlavor]

VOTE: Creature

[Jesus Louisus]

HeWhoSwims is still the best vote ATM.

If you think there is not enough posting from that slot to create a read then you need to turn the heat up and get that pan a-fryin'. We shouldn't reward or ignore the lurkers. They've had enough time to hide.

[ofrhz]

Yea. I think its just a playstyle thing, but Im interested in seeing if it continues, or if the pattern changes.

Tbh I don’t think I’ve put in that much effort and I’m surprised you have that impression

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Creature

Why?

[Nero Cain]

It could be that I'm lying. Or it could be that since then you've reacted in a scummy way to a joke post and tried to get a premature claim on someone after joining a pretty shitty wagon.

It's definitely one of those two.

b/c asking you if you were legit calling me scummy is sooooo "scummy"

[rosterfoster]

HeWhoSwims is still the best vote ATM.

If you think there is not enough posting from that slot to create a read then you need to turn the heat up and get that pan a-fryin'. We shouldn't reward or ignore the lurkers. They've had enough time to hide.

[LuckyOtter]

Eh. We still have 12 days til deadline and a couple people to join the game yet.

Yeah, I'm hip to be square.

VOTE: RedFlavor

He's in my top 4.

Who else is in your top 4?

It's early, but..

Kirari Momobami
- Silly fakeclaims as first post
- Over-meta
RedFlavour
- Jumping on self-voter bandwagon in second post
- Ignored mason claim.
- 147 - states confusion over NC's list. But doesn't vote for me until ater an exchange with pisskop where he votes RedFlavor. Feels like RedFlavor's KK vote is more distraction/deflection.
Montosh
- Ignored mason claim.
- Anti town-tells
- Anti RedFlavor-wagon for the sake of being against a wagon.
Vorkuta
- Jumping on self-voter bandwagon
- Weird Post 22.
- Weird Post 238.

Outskirts:
rosterfoster
- Just don't understand his reasoning for doing things.
EvilDeanius
- Totally Beetlejuiced in with fluff.

Kirari is the weakest read here imo. I don't know how a silly fakeclaim is AI at all, and I'm not sure what you're seeing that you're calling "over-meta"

I agree with M that ignoring the mason claim is NAI. If anything ignoring fakeclaims and getting back to business is slightly town-indicative

I'm not seeing what is particularly weird about Vorkuta's posts. I don't see Red's and Vork's joining the pisskop wagon as the same.

I agree on EvilDeanius. If we're going to be voting lurkers I'd rather go here right now over HWS

[LuckyOtter]

Actually let's just do that VOTE: EvilDeanius

[rosterfoster]

I'm not seeing what is particularly weird about Vorkuta's posts. I don't see Red's and Vork's joining the pisskop wagon as the same.

Vork kind of has an unconventional posting style, so people tend to scumread that.

ED is indeed a possible, but the case on swims is more than just lurking, while I don’t really see one of ED?

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.3

HeWhoSwims(4)Lil Uzi Vert,Montosh,Jesus Louisus,rosterfoster,

Not Voting(4)EvilDeanius,BodhiSmith13,Kop,ofrhz,

RedFlavor(2)pisskop,Kublai Khan,

Creature(2)Vorkuta,RedFlavor,

Nero Cain(1)HeWhoSwims,

rosterfoster(1)Alchemist21,

Vorkuta(1)Creature,

EvilDeanius(1)LuckyOtter,

Saudade

Lil Uzi Vert(1)Kirari Momobami,

Montosh(1)Nero Cain,

LuckyOtter(0)

ofrhz(0)

Alchemist21(0)

pisskop(0)

BodhiSmith13(0)

Kop(0)

Kublai Khan(0)

Jesus Louisus(0)

Kirari Momobami(0)

No Lynch(0)


With 18 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-06-26 13:21:00)

[Kublai Khan]

Feel like Red is still scummy.

He is. It's a goddamned shame that we're moving on.

I dont really get the Swims SRs. Maybe Ill iso them after.

Did you get around to ISOing HeWhoSwims?

Kirari is the weakest read here imo. I don't know how a silly fakeclaim is AI at all, and I'm not sure what you're seeing that you're calling "over-meta"

I agree with M that ignoring the mason claim is NAI. If anything ignoring fakeclaims and getting back to business is slightly town-indicative

I'm not seeing what is particularly weird about Vorkuta's posts. I don't see Red's and Vork's joining the pisskop wagon as the same.

I agree on EvilDeanius. If we're going to be voting lurkers I'd rather go here right now over HWS

It's really just impressions to maybe kickstart some discussion, but I think that was only marginally successful.

I still feel that rosterfoster is weird for the hard defending.

I'd join on the EvilDeanius wagon, but I think turning up the skillet on HeWhoSwims is best.

VOTE: HeWhoSwims

P.Edit: Oh hey, a vote count. Timely.

[Not Known 15]

BodhiSmith13 is being replaced.

[LuckyOtter]

I'm not seeing what is particularly weird about Vorkuta's posts. I don't see Red's and Vork's joining the pisskop wagon as the same.

Vork kind of has an unconventional posting style, so people tend to scumread that.

ED is indeed a possible, but the case on swims is more than just lurking, while I don’t really see one of ED?

I would say the same thing about HWS' posting style. I played with him as town and he has a very edited posting style that can read fake.

[pisskop]

2 posts.

Youre going to vote HWS over 2 posts?

[Kop]

2 posts.

Youre going to vote HWS over 2 posts?

Are you still scum reading Red?

[pisskop]

yes?

[pisskop]

Theyre very clipped.