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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:25 am

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In post 1265, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why are Oka/Sky svs?
Skygazer'sread reversal from way back really stuck out as implying that if skygazer is scum, okapoka is as well. There are other things, but that is the most notable imo.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:28 am

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VOTE: OkaPoka
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:48 am

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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:30 am

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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:31 am

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ima just VOTE: oka
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:33 am

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how are you feeling tw
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:36 am

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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:37 am

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It's like stupidity morning or something.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:38 am

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how confident are you on oka town
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:39 am

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I'm not anyway inclined about him. Why are we lynching outside the millers?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:20 am

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Prod dodge. 59 pages is fucking nuts. I've been distracted by a rough week at work and home, and sinking attention into the SUPP.

This becomes my top priority starting tomorrow, but I probably won't be reading much of the last 50 or so pages.

What's important? Claims, etc?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:22 am

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In post 1460, Pine wrote:Prod dodge. 59 pages is fucking nuts. I've been distracted by a rough week at work and home, and sinking attention into the SUPP.

This becomes my top priority starting tomorrow, but I probably won't be reading much of the last 50 or so pages.

What's important? Claims, etc?
CheekyTeeky claimed cop. Saudade counterclaimed really late, but we'll resolve that later.

Paty particular attention to OkaPoka and Skygazer.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:23 am

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Millers: nsg, tw, sky, saudade
Non millers: azo (he forgot lol), ircher, oka, Pine
Cop: me.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:24 am

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In post 1459, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm not anyway inclined about him. Why are we lynching outside the millers?
Because Oka's scummier and fypov, it shouldn't matter as it's 25% chance either way.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:27 am

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Ircher do you not understand how weird it is for a miller not wanting to lynch in millers?
From their PoV there's 1 in 3.
If I'm covering for a cop in the nonmillers it's better if we don't lynch there.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:28 am

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You can wait until I'm confirmed before lynching in nonmillers. It's incredibly suspicious that y'all can't work out what's optimal here.
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:29 am

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Scum will narrow down nonmiller pool. We lynch in millers.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 1319, the worst wrote:No idea where votes are at but I want the skygazer hammer pls
Why?
In post 1331, Skygazer wrote:i mean look at my position; im being tunneled by two very loud players in a 53 page (after 4 days btw) micro that i cant keep up with and getting accused of lurking shit out for my absence when in any other game id probs be posting a perfectly normal and average amount

and im being accused of like associative shit w a player that im not 100% sold on being scum for not SRing them lol when i think you know that if oka were scum id bus him in a heartbeat bc im good at association shit generally

so im just like ??? i dont rlly feel like theres anything i can even do at this point even after massively spewing myself as town in what i thought was twilight and even after i made a huge effort to try and catch up last night im still being tunneled

and i feel like my solves are just being absolutely 100% ignored which is fucking horrible bc fmpov this very much feels like its goin down the road of a town loss
Even if no one else does, I will remember the words of dead townies.
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In post 1356, AzoriusSenate wrote:You actually did towntell towards the end but I trusted in the king
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You have a good point. AzoriusSenate is really starting to draw my attention, and not in a good way.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 1464, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ircher do you not understand how weird it is for a miller not wanting to lynch in millers?
From their PoV there's 1 in 3.
If I'm covering for a cop in the nonmillers it's better if we don't lynch there.
If Oka was cop, they would have already counterclaimed by now. OkaPoka has not counterclaimed you yet. Therefore, OkaPoka is not the cop.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:52 am

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Well done you. You realise that scum aren't going to shoot the miller claims right? Think a little bit ahead.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:59 am

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In post 1384, the worst wrote:Senate if town also apparently gamethrows because he thinks it's funny so :shrug:

Will also lynch oka
We'll worry about Senate on a OkaPoka green!flip. Stick to OkaPoka.
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In post 1384, the worst wrote:Senate if town also apparently gamethrows because he thinks it's funny so :shrug:

Will also lynch oka
Explain how I'm gamethrowing compared to Saudade
let's see.... voting someone who towntelled sounds like a gamethrow. Tunneling town as an aggressive player sounds like just obnoxious behavior, not gamethrowing....
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In post 1443, CheekyTeeky wrote:In simple english. Stick with the plan.

Anyone who is a miller should be wanting to lynch a miller claim because it's 1 in 3. It's not rocket science.
Yes, but mafia also requires compromise. We really don't have to lynch in millers. We can lynch OkaPoka who has enough scum equity to be worth the % decrease in success for millers. Furthermore, OkaPoka has been fairly useless this entire game whereas Skygazer has at least responded to some points in a useful manner. town!Skygazer is much more useful than town!OkaPoka, and scum!Skygazer is less likely than scum!OkaPoka.
In post 1469, CheekyTeeky wrote:Well done you. You realise that scum aren't going to shoot the miller claims right? Think a little bit ahead.
They will if we lynch in non-millers. (Well, they'll kill Cop!Cheeky N1, but then chances just become equal to a spectator and is only biased by one's own alignment.) And if they don't, it's net positive for us.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:00 am

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Whatever pool you lynch from you need to continue lynching from. I guess you could let scum out themselves in either. I just don't feel confident that there's anyone explicitly towny in the nonmiller pool to guarantee you hit scum before scum win.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:01 am

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I think anyone who thinks they can read Oka is delusional.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:02 am

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There's also a prodging no info slot in the nonmillers. The risk is bigger.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:04 am

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There's about as much info (a little more, yes, but not significant enough to matter) in northsidegal as there is in Pine. And Pine promises to start catching up tomorrow.
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