The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

[Chickadead]

Why did I think claiming Survivor on MS was a good idea? This is embarrassing.

[ElevenThirty]

VOTE: ElevenThirty

i wanted to save this read for later when people like actually checked in but literally every post skitter makes makes me want to eviscerate the slot more and more

Oh *do* tell

[ElevenThirty]

I never said I wasn't going to help anyone, I said that I wasn't going to out any reads. I will still be conversing and outing some thoughts, but I won't be as direct as I normally am. This assumption that I'm actively playing against town's win condition and that I pissed them off seems like a bit of a stretch. If you understand that I need to play for my win condition, then giving me shit over not outing reads seems a bit two-faced.

You do realize that if I played and outed reads as I normally would that I would just get night-killed, right?

My vote will still be there, and it's not like I'll be going out of my way to vote town. I feel like you guys are misunderstanding a very simple thing.

Bolded: incidentally this isnt my problem

*my* problem is finding and lynching scum, and a highly capable slot purposefully not sharing scumreads in order to not get themselves nk'd is:

A) annoying
B) kinda useless wrt my wincon. from *my* pov, that means u arent being helpful and means that i can't really trust u because what you're prioritizing doesn't help me

What exactly do u think i'm misunderstanding?

[ElevenThirty]

This game just started and I feel like you're making a lot of assumptions about how I'm going to play based on the few things I've said.

I mean ... ehat should i be basing it on?

[ElevenThirty]

I feel like you guys are misunderstanding a very simple thing.

it's deliberate

Why is three musketeers townie?

[ElevenThirty]

the annoying thing about ms meta is that somehow people think that lynching non-killing 3p day 1 is a good thing because it's not town?

Just pointing out that i *didn't* advocate lynching them today

What i did say what that they're going to be my go-to compromise lynch

[ElevenThirty]

Old Dogs get my first solid town points.

Why?

[ElevenThirty]

Why did I think claiming Survivor on MS was a good idea? This is embarrassing.

Claiming survivor wasnt inherently a bad idea, it was announcing that u were planning on not sharing scumreads

Is tw on board with this plan? What does he think of all pf this?

[The Three Musketeers]

I feel like you guys are misunderstanding a very simple thing.

it's deliberate

Why is three musketeers townie?

Because we got green rolecard, why else?

[The Three Musketeers]

I feel like you guys are misunderstanding a very simple thing.

it's deliberate

Why is three musketeers townie?

Because we got green rolecard, why else?

~Aramis

[skitter30]

Oh i think ur pretty townie, i want to know why *old dogs* thinks ur townie - i'm using this to get inside their head, and read *them*, not u

[ElevenThirty]

Oh i think ur pretty townie, i want to know why *old dogs* thinks ur townie - i'm using this to get inside their head, and read *them*, not u

[Voted]

Why did I think claiming Survivor on MS was a good idea? This is embarrassing.

Because scum/ 3rd party killers are less likely to kill revealed survivours.

[ElevenThirty]

I kinda want to move on because it's been rehashed a bunch of times ready

I'm not particularly interested in lynching them today but they're my go to compromise lynch, and they need to be readdressed before lylo-ish

I also want to know what tw was thinking becuase ... yeah

[Toogeloo]

Vote: Chickadead

Unless someone scum slips, I'm not changing my vote.

[Toogeloo]

Im also gonna start calling the mod

schITHEaad_

until he fixes my name :p

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

Hi, head number two is Blake Belladonna.

I already altslipped this account like a noob.

[YAYVIDEOGAMES]

I'm still going to be lazy, though.

~ Pichu

[ZZZX]

Posting here. I shall quickly read up the last 6 pages. And post in ~soon

Nice to be in a mafia game again with yall

[ZZZX]

btw mastina's role isn't acutally real
if it was real, schadd would make it so she couldn't claim her real role, since just claiming that ur a town fakeclaimer isn't actually fakeclaiming and going against the spirit of your role.
The fact she claimed that she was a town fakerclaimer makes her claim fake.

My head can't take this

Sure let's just completely ignore the remaining players and just lynch Mastina in RVS

Aaand this is the first player that I don't like so far. Page 1 done. Moving on~ (yea sorry I'll have to post a post for each page as I'm on phone lol)

[ZZZX]

@to all third parties

Anyone who's wincon is not mutually exclusive to mine and volunteers to cooperate has my undying and unwavering loyalty for the rest of the game.

Hit me up

I reaaaly don't like this person lul

Hey

Oh fuscosco is kinda townie i think?

Ur like overemphasizing the 3 players thing, it's weird
I dont like thr post at the top of this page either, the one addressed to 3ps

I dont like thr post at the top of this page either, the one addressed to 3ps

i mean fair but u said you didnt like a post so im equating that to you feeling he's scum - im not really sure why scum specifically is going to go like "I STAN 3rd PARTY ROLES BTW" in bold on a pagetop

is it a not-very-good-post? ya maybe... but like, it just seems like a bad post and not a scummy post to me

faking his interest

Even if I were "insert party here", I wouldn't actually understand any of the mechanics involved so I'd be

genuinely

interested anyway

scum informed

Idk either but those two things combined made it feel like a decent vote to start off the game with, esp since i didnt really have scumpings elsewhere

U might be town too

Ok gotta go now

Pointless and weird? Maybe. Scum motivated? Probably not


The 3 people who can't post probably influence the game in some way shape or form which frankly we shouldn't care about right now. If they can't talk and we can't vote them we can't do anything about it unless and until some shenanigans related to some abilities or something happens

[ZZZX]

I'm really hoping that there's at least one townie who can tell us useful stuff like

"I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum. -Morality"

Or a third party that's willing to spoonfeed stuff to us in exchange for cooperation

I'm an informed townie who knows there's at least one player not aligned with the town currently alive.

I like olddogs. Don't like vork. It seems like vork is hellbent on outing information. Any townie who bas info which he deems important to release now woudlve done so. Otherwise this pressuring can feel scum intented

We're hard-claiming Survivor

.

We've an active ability to help keep us alive. We won't be sharing what that is now.

We've no killing action, and we're not in any PT.

We're not going to out any scum-reads unless scum ever try killing us.

Neutral.

You're not incentivizing me to keep u alive tho - you've basically announced that ur more concerned about scum than town, and that u are therefore playing to appease them, and that u aren't interested in furthering town's wincon. Like ur playing to ur own self-interest, and it doesnt coincide with mine

Like i dont think ur my go to lynch but i'm not going to protest ur lynch either, and if idk where to vote at deadline it's prob going to be u.

Shrug.

What? I'm not more concerned about scum. I'm concerned about getting night-killed which directly plays against my win condition. Of course I'm playing for my own self-interest since it's in my own self-interest to stay alive. That's the whole point of a Survivor.

So survivor claim this early. Simply my thoughts are:

I am ignoring this claim and will proceed by ignoring it. I'd this person refuses to take part as a member of the town we should lynch them. Your win condition is to survive and if you don't cooperate you will get the noose before you get the gun. Sounds simple?

And then I will read you as any random person. If you act scummy you get the noose. If you don't then you don't.

[ZZZX]

Well then

Is there any reason to keep uncooperative survivor alive? No

Is there any reason to lynch them on the spot? From mechanical standpoint - not really. But there is another thing - if survivor is hindering our progress, namely if people will spend their time on discussing survivor's actions or whether we should lynch them or not instead of trying progress game, lynching survivor is best course of action to avoid this WIFOM and increase our chances to find scum. So we have to answer simple question - can we completely ignore survivor for now? If not, we should lynch them

Lastly, I always was advocate for D1 lynch and never accepted no lynch D1, so if we can't find decent lynch I'm more than happy to lynch you just to avoid unnecessary shenanigans

Also, your wincon don't have anything to do with us or our wincon, but is rather a hindrance, so why we should care about your wincon?

I like how you think. My thoughts exactly

this is a stupid conversation, you dont take a 0% chance to lynch mafia over a >0% chance to lynch mafia on D1

yes, if we're close to lylo it's an inevitable policy lynch but let's just let the chips fall where they may and let the survivor play optimally so they dont get shot by scum

Oh no. That's a horrible post.

Since when is that survivor claim confirmed to be 0% non scum? It could easily be a 3rd party which could fuck us up.

If it's not town I don't trust it. If it's truely a survivor I want them to be town. By acting like it. Or we as the town will make sure not to risk losing OUR win condition so the survivor can satisfy his. It's simple

VOTE: ElevenThirty

i wanted to save this read for later when people like actually checked in but literally every post skitter makes makes me want to eviscerate the slot more and more

Oh no. I don't like this vote, or reasoning. Now I'm conflicted about old dogs. Bah

[ZZZX]

See, that's the difference between you and me - you want to try lynch scum, I want to eliminate as much lose conditions as I can

we can vote out the survivor when it's almost lylo and thus an actual lose condition, for now let's take advantage of the extra vote, aight?

No.

That sounds like the easiest way to throw this game.

See, that's the difference between you and me - you want to try lynch scum, I want to eliminate as much lose conditions as I can

we can vote out the survivor when it's almost lylo and thus an actual lose condition, for now let's take advantage of the extra vote, aight?

Considering we have no clue on scum numbers and 3p numbers it's hard to predict, when it will be this "almost LYLO"

Also, what chances we have to find all scum before this "almost LYLO" happens in your opinion?

I don't know If 3 musk is town but their thought process is dangerously close to mine I can't see fault in them yet..

Scumhunting with "significant 3p component" is like scumhunting in multiball- townhunting is easier IMHO.

A single, hardclaimed survivor is not multiball LMAO

if this were actual multiball you'd be right because scumhunting is easier for scum who only have to find one team, but im pretty sure the setup has to be 3 or 4 mafia + 14 or 13 town + 1 survivor thats probably linked to the main gimmick of the setup. ie there's only one team to look for so it doesnt really matter

still thats not important - if youre townhunting who have you townhunted so far?

I remeber reading somewhere about the game having multiple third parties.. And the fact that with the 3 we can't vote being clearly mentioned as indefinite it does tell us some questions of what that means for other parties. And this it's easier to think about town hunting and the people who clearly don't care about the town win.

[ZZZX]

Why did I think claiming Survivor on MS was a good idea? This is embarrassing.

and chick replaces so I can't say much about it. Whoever the replacement is should work as town and I will read them according to their actions ignoring whatever claims will give us headaches. We'll see by then.

Overall I am conflicted who to vote but the last few posts from old dog just felt... bad

Vote: Old dog

I suspect non town motivations from your last few posts. Reasoning as previously mentioned