BooneyToonz XII: Corporate Boontrigue (Game Over!!!)

[Ausuka]

have you considered
that the bulletproof thing might be real
but the alignment be scum?

i don't see why scum need a bulletproof in response to a vig that already got a nerf in what is essentially a non-consecutive modifier.

[Ausuka]

also if i'm scum bulletproof there's still no reason for me to play the way I did. Xtoxm started the day pushing me, skitter had me as locktown. If I was scum there's literally no way I counterclaim skitter; I locktown her in return and we lynch Xtoxm or creature together or something.

[Ausuka]

partner!xtoxm and/or partner!creature would have had to have stayed on their buddy the whole time that the cw built

I wasn't on Titus either except for a brief period where I thought a hard guilty existed; I don't think voting your buddy is particularly more towny than voting someone you don't know is your buddy, considering that the Titus wagon was forced through by Bella's hardpush and it was honestly sort of a forgone conclusion by end-of-day, and doing so creates distance from your partners.

[Ausuka]

i know the creature is usually one of the last people to bus, so him staying on bambi when everyone was gagging to join the titus wagon is a minor point in his favour.

there were a lot of games in 2017 where he was scum and voted his buddies all the time; that may have changed a bit but i don't think he's totally averse to bussing.

viewtopic.php?t=72508&f=53&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go (votes his buddy formerfish in post 561, votes his buddy gratiae in 886)

viewtopic.php?t=72727&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go (votes his buddy mozamis in post 202, votes his buddy schadd in 518, votes schadd again in 2108)

[Ausuka]

liger also tried to get creature lynched a as a cw to bambi so that doesn't make super much sense together

What? Liger voted Creature based on one bad post, and kept on pushing that same narrative even though it was totally clear that it wasn't going anywhere. I don't see how that doesn't work as a s/s interaction - it doesn't seem that Liger really thought he was going to get Creature lynched.

[skitter30]

liger has a lot of icky defending of bambi too

Go on...

you defended him while his wagon was going up and repeatedly tried to form a cw to his

(tbf i didn't vote him either)

[skitter30]

bleh i'm kinda stuck

i'm p sure ausuka is town
i'm p sure xtoxm is town off of bambi interactions

creature's hammer was bad but i'm not sure it comes from scum

and i guess liger is the odd man out so i guess i'd feel best about lynching him today

not sure where i'm going wrong in {creature/ausuka/xtoxm}

ok but like why doesn't it come from scum?

we had 1 (one) real day phase in this game and creature cut it short and put us in lylo. it was objectively pro-scum-wincon as a move.

can't tell if it was an honest mistake or scum-motivated
it was god-awful tho, yeah

[skitter30]

you already decided you want ausuka to win whatever she is

This is a completely unjustified accusation.

ya i kinda felt that too

[skitter30]

have you considered
that the bulletproof thing might be real
but the alignment be scum?

i don't see why scum need a bulletproof in response to a vig that already got a nerf in what is essentially a non-consecutive modifier.

that's why i kinda think that 2s doc works as a counter to the vig?

i mean there has to be scum in the bp/doc claims i think (which at this point is kinda obvious but yeah)

[skitter30]

liger also tried to get creature lynched a as a cw to bambi so that doesn't make super much sense together

What? Liger voted Creature based on one bad post, and kept on pushing that same narrative even though it was totally clear that it wasn't going anywhere. I don't see how that doesn't work as a s/s interaction - it doesn't seem that Liger really thought he was going to get Creature lynched.

well the context is that he was pushing him a counter to bambi

[skitter30]

i don't think ausuka is scum
i don't think xtoxm is scum

so i'm kinda down to creature/liger i think

like xtoxm if i'm wrong on ausuka i need u to show me that but i don't see it rn

[Xtoxm]

that was more poor wording on my part i was meaning to say it felt like you hard her locktowned to the point that was the result regardless
but it looks like a different meaning so sorry for that

[Xtoxm]

i'm not 100% either or i'd be voting her.
outside of the hammer creature did i like his behaviour the most through the game. the fact he was on bambi with me while liger and ausuka werent makes me want to call him the townie.
the hammer does look like a scum hammer tho, and it was a big mistake from creature if hes town here.

on pure setup spec, out of the 3, i'd have to say creatures claimed 2-shot doc fits the setup the best of the 3 of them.
i dont feel like 2x 1s strong is enough for 2x town full bulletproof

[Xtoxm]

i have seen some crazy townsided setups lately tho so who knows

[skitter30]

liger did u fullclaim ???

[Xtoxm]

also if i'm scum bulletproof there's still no reason for me to play the way I did. Xtoxm started the day pushing me, skitter had me as locktown. If I was scum there's literally no way I counterclaim skitter; I locktown her in return and we lynch Xtoxm or creature together or something.

i have considered this, but all 3 of you have called me town, and passed on that opportunity skitters suspicion gave scum.
so none of you get points for it.

[skitter30]

i just don't see myself voting ausuka today tbh

pedit not following u, sorry

[Ausuka]

i'm not 100% either or i'd be voting her.
outside of the hammer creature did i like his behaviour the most through the game. the fact he was on bambi with me while liger and ausuka werent makes me want to call him the townie.
the hammer does look like a scum hammer tho, and it was a big mistake from creature if hes town here.

on pure setup spec, out of the 3, i'd have to say creatures claimed 2-shot doc fits the setup the best of the 3 of them.
i dont feel like 2x 1s strong is enough for 2x town full bulletproof

I was also on Bambi while Creature wasn't and I'm not sure what makes one situation more important than the other?

also if i'm scum bulletproof there's still no reason for me to play the way I did. Xtoxm started the day pushing me, skitter had me as locktown. If I was scum there's literally no way I counterclaim skitter; I locktown her in return and we lynch Xtoxm or creature together or something.

i have considered this, but all 3 of you have called me town, and passed on that opportunity skitters suspicion gave scum.
so none of you get points for it.

I don't really get what you mean by this? The point I'm trying to make is about the counterclaim; as scum skitter would be the only one townreading me, so I'd buddy her, not outright counterclaim her. I don't think this has anything to do with who creat and liger chose to push.

[Ausuka]

liger also tried to get creature lynched a as a cw to bambi so that doesn't make super much sense together

What? Liger voted Creature based on one bad post, and kept on pushing that same narrative even though it was totally clear that it wasn't going anywhere. I don't see how that doesn't work as a s/s interaction - it doesn't seem that Liger really thought he was going to get Creature lynched.

well the context is that he was pushing him a counter to bambi

Idk how I read that so wrong >.>

All I can really say here is that scum bus all the time to avoid associative tells? Like recently I've been looking at early games in normals and there's very often at least one scum vanity wagon on scum, and I don't see any reason that wouldn't also apply in a game like this?

[skitter30]

idk why he'd pick a partner to do that to there tho

i feel like the possible teams i have don't make sense togehter

but creature/liger is still my best bet it hink

[Xtoxm]

I was also on Bambi while Creature wasn't and I'm not sure what makes one situation more important than the other?

honestly if felt like you joined when it was out of necessity for the roleclaim lie and when vocal town players started giving bambi a pass for it you were really eager to hop off the wagon. ive been susp of you since then.
creature stayed on bambi with me the whole time.

[Xtoxm]

y'know, i could probably rationalise the 2x bp if the scum's informed was that town have a bulletproof.
and ig if you're scum with that informed, claiming informed of a strongman feels linear.

[skitter30]

Oh something was making me think earlier that scum may have been informed of bp

I forgot what atm but i'll try to remember

[Xtoxm]

from a setup perspective the liger!town world is the one i believe the least, because in that situation towns only protective is 1x bp.
i dont see why town are informed of a strongman there.

[skitter30]

Maybe we just do liger today and i guess tomorrow i get to decide between creature and ausuka?

I guess that's basically how this game works out ...

Pedir liger town world means there's 2 of {2 bp/2 shot doc} from ur pov