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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 1593, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1583, Shoshin wrote:2. I've been far more active & engaged than I ever would have as scum. I've read the whole game carefully (50 pages of stuff I wouldn't have read as scum). I'm trying to interact with players to get a sense of their alignment. This just isn't what it looks like when I'm scum. Is it possible for scum to be this active? Yes. Is it likely? No. Read me based on probability please.
this stuff keeps bugging me. This isn't at all how you read to me in bop, and it isn't how you read to me in our early interactions in that newbie and I don't really think you meant to replace out of that newbie. Like, I think you've got to admit that effort!scum is within your range

And since when does shoshin get scared? cop role or not. This doesn't even seem like an alignment thing, I just wouldn't expect it from you generally
I was scum in BoP. I was scum in the Newbie. I'm not here. There's a large difference between my play here and BoP/Newbie. Do you deny that?

I'm capable of anything as scum. That's not the issue. I'm talking about probability. I have a 0% win rate as scum. I tend to lurk in most of the games. BoP is an exception because I really wanted to beat RC. And even then, I wasn't anything close to this level of engagement.

It's not a matter of being scared. It's a matter of judgment. If it looks like I'm going to get mislynched, I'm going to do whatever necessary to prevent that. I think mislynching is the worst thing that can happen to a town, and it's especially bad when they kill off one of the best players before the player even has a chance to put forth a solve.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 1595, Nero Cain wrote:in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Why are you ignoring the specific evidence that I hate playing scum & lurk even more as scum than town?
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:00 pm

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Ok, sure, but what if your partner is one of the slots that haven’t posted in the thread since you replaced in? And keep in mind, most of the votes was from before you replaced in.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:01 pm

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In post 1595, Nero Cain wrote:in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

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This is a good example of why I claimed, U2. I read the gamestate correctly.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 1602, Saladman27 wrote:Ok, sure, but what if your partner is one of the slots that haven’t posted in the thread since you replaced in? And keep in mind, most of the votes was from before you replaced in.
Here's some advice to improve: anytime you find yourself using the words "what if" and "could," question whether that possibility is actually probable. You find the scum by looking at what's probable. Anything is possible, and it's not helpful to focus on that type of stuff. Spinning narratives out of possibilities is how scum mislynch the townies.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:03 pm

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In post 1602, Saladman27 wrote:Ok, sure, but what if your partner is one of the slots that haven’t posted in the thread since you replaced in? And keep in mind, most of the votes was from before you replaced in.
It's untrue that most votes were before I replaced in. Yours, Nom's, Flubb's, Nero's, are from after. That's more than half.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 1601, Shoshin wrote:Why are you ignoring the specific evidence that I hate playing scum & lurk even more as scum than town?
I have no such evidence and I haven't looked at any links or anything if they've been provided. I just know you were a town lurksack in RC's upick. You aren't being a lurksack here b/c ???
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 pm

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I think Nero's probably scum. He's not trying to sort me in good faith. I highly doubt he believes what he's saying about me without at least reading my posts to see if they're towny/scummy.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 1600, Shoshin wrote:I was scum in BoP. I was scum in the Newbie. I'm not here. There's a large difference between my play here and BoP/Newbie. Do you deny that?
yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think you efforted in bop, and I don't think you were apathetic in the newbie. I'm saying you can effort scum. You don't think you can?

Yes, there are differences, but there are also big differences in setups.

I'm also just having a hard time believing that this is how you play a cop replacement slot. I can see your average newb coming in hot because they know they won't be lynched

but I kinda think you try to town it up a bit more and avoid exactly this situation. Why is that a bad read?
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 1607, Shoshin wrote:He's not trying to sort me in good faith.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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In post 1600, Shoshin wrote:I'm capable of anything as scum.
oh my bad i guess i should have read the next line first lolol
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:09 pm

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I thought I was towning it up, U2.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 1600, Shoshin wrote:I have a 0% win rate as scum
Hey, me too, but I don't think anyone thinks this is a reason to discount my scum play
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:09 pm

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I have 150+ posts in less than 24 hours. If this town can't see that I'm town, this game is lost.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 1603, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1595, Nero Cain wrote:in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

VOTE: shoshin
This is a good example of why I claimed, U2. I read the gamestate correctly.
I guess that's fair, too lol
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 1607, Shoshin wrote:I think Nero's probably scum. He's not trying to sort me in good faith. I highly doubt he believes what he's saying about me without at least reading my posts to see if they're towny/scummy.
just like Nom was town until he started pushing you. You OMGUS scum read that pushes you and its not town.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 1613, Shoshin wrote:I have 150+ posts in less than 24 hours. If this town can't see that I'm town, this game is lost.
that doesn't make you town at all.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:12 pm

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I’m still riding on the Crunch meta...
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:14 pm

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U2, please unvote me.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 1613, Shoshin wrote:I have 150+ posts in less than 24 hours. If this town can't see that I'm town, this game is lost.
that is a lot actually

i guess you are more active than bop by a fair bit

UNVOTE:

so you're trying to figure out scum, what's the town bloc?
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:16 pm

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Cinn's town. The rest of this game is a mess that needs to be sorted out.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:16 pm

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Nom's maybe town. It depends on a couple things.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 1618, Shoshin wrote:U2, please unvote me.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:17 pm

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Yeah it is alot but it could be just active lurking...
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:17 pm

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Nom's far beyond what I saw from them as scum.

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