Alright, finally paraphrasing the internship.
I have to say that apparently I was mistaken about the bcc; I THOUGHT that the N1 used it whereas all other nights didn't, but turns out it didn't; right there in the message it tells me the message was sent to both me and nom, same as on all other nights.
Post zero, you pretty much know: went through resumes, you're hired, tech interns; one of us performing a track, vote someone to track, one of us gets randomly selected 36 hours in; selected by the scum, no guarantee of being town; good luck, recommend coding talk.
That was Monday at around 6:45 pm.
At around 7:30, nom posted "what is this".
A few minutes later, schadd replied "an internship".
nom asked a couple minutes later "who's the other person".
At about 7:45, schadd said it was me.
This ninja'd my response I was typing, because it took me longer. So at about 7:50, I said:
"That'd be me.", facepalming. I then in that same post (5) said, "For full disclosure, while I've got too much stubborn pride to replace out of the game, I intend to self-vote to get out of the game.
Also, I promised it to CheekyTeeky. I said that if apthet flipped town, we'd lynch me; apthet flipped town, so I owe it to the town to lynch me.
I don't even care if it's self-hammering; the moment we get a result tomorrow I am going to do it and literally the ONLY way I don't is if we SOMEHOW manage to get a guilty.
...Which requires a successful track.
And even if the scumteam were, say, Gemini-Chito/Nuko--let's argue for a hypothetical that that's the scumteam--do we even know which of them would perform the kill? Would it be the obvious choice, Gemini, or the non-obvious choice?
Legitimately don't know.
Let's forget our scumreads (we're more or less scumreading the same people).
Assume every player is scum, for the sake of figuring out a track target.
Who, of the non-us players
(NOTE: SCHADD DID NOT SPECIFY THAT WE COULD TRACK ONE ANOTHER; SCHADD DID NOT SPECIFY THAT WE COULD SELF-TRACK), is the
most
likely to make the nightkill?
That'd be our best chance to get a guilty. You got a better idea or answer?"
At 8, nomnomnom
(NOTE: NOT ME AS NOMNOMNOM HAS BEEN IMPLYING) said, "Well if everyone's got equal scum chances, I'd say LuckyOtter's the most likely given he's off the radar. It really doesn't feel like he's scum though."
Immediately after that, post 7, nom said, "Gemini's the least likely to do it unless wanting to 50/50 it. Anyone else is fair game."
And immediately after that, nom said, in response to my first post, "And RE: self voting, don't do that."
And soon after, nom said, "I still feel Gemini's scum. Chito/Nuko could be a likely partner."
That same minute, in post 10, I quoted post six, saying: "Actually, I think that's a good track believe it or not.
Otter's seen as vaguely town, but of the people seen as being town, Otter's at the bottom.
Like.
Parachutes is generally seen as slightly more town than him.
CheekyTeeky's seen as basically conftown.
You are basically conftown.
Porkens is basically seen as conftown.
Otter's just not as town as they are. Yeah, I don't think he's scum. Yes, I think he's town. But if our reads are horrifically off and he's scum? He feels like a likely candidate to do the nightkill, thus a good track. More than that...an innocent on him might not be a
hard
innocent, but it's a soft-innocent, enough of one where he might avoid a mislynch he'd otherwise eat.
(NOTE: I didn't specify this at the time, by my logic for this can be defined by this article on investigatives. It was written originally for cops, but I later determined it applied to ANY investigative PR. In this case, a tracker; aim for a guilty but if getting an innocent NOT likely to be nightkilled, but which would have a high impact on the game, basically. Someone not my top townread, but not my top scumread.)
Basically, it's win-win.
We're right that he's town, we support it; we're wrong and he's scum, we likely catch him.
There IS the obvious risk we false clear him, just as there is we're right and nobody buys our innocent, but I feel like it's enough to submit a tentative:
TRACK: LuckyOtter
With the caveat that we can reconsider/change at any point."
Soon after, I quoted my post 5, and said, "Another reason not to replace out beyond stubborn pride? It's a cop-out, and I don't want a different player to inherit my fuckup. It was MINE, so *I* should inherit the consequences of it in full. They shouldn't need to be subjugated to MY mistakes when they were mine. In other words, replacing out's the coward's way out to avoid consequences of your actions and instead force a burden on both the mod and eventually the player replacing you."
At about 8:10, nom posted, "Starting to wonder. Isn't one of us getting killed tonight? Why would scum place both of us in a PT? And if so, doesn't that make it basically a 50/50 to get the result to town tomorrow?
We should probably coordinate a track target and have it be the same, so whatever happens, it's worth it."
(NOTE: Until nom mentioned this, I was under the impression that we needed to unanimously vote for the same player to track, and it was just that one of us would randomly be selected to get the result. I had no clue we could have different targets until nom raised the possibility here.)
At 8:15, post 13, nom asked, "Hey, do you happen to be Informed?"
At 8:30, I quoted nom's post 12, responding: "I'd presume scum have a similar 'cannot kill the tracker' mechanism to the first game albeit more temporary.
In the first game we HAD to give out a track, the person receiving it KNEW it was from scum, and it also made them bulletproof.
Here, we're not bulletproof, but we were given a track and them giving us it was presumably compulsively done, and we know it came from scum. Kind-of removes the whole point if they can just kill us, doesn't it?
So my guess; we can't be killed tonight, but on all other nights can be.
Oh, also.
Scum killing me, if they can?
Does the town a big favor.
Scum killing you, if they can?
Eh, not doing the town a big favor, but I'd think there's better kills for them to make."
Immediately after, post 15, I quoted nom's post 13, responding, "Nope! I basically outright admitted on D1 that I'm a VT, when I had that discussion with CheekyTeeky."
At 8:45, nom said, "Yeah I figured as much, just wanted some confirmation. I'm bad at staying confident with assumptions; I tend to get paranoid in the long-run.
What do you think of a Chito/Nuko track?"
(NOTE: This is incredibly scum-indicative because we know for a fact that one of me/nom was a scum tracker; we know for a fact that scum in the internships can make the nightkill; we can then infer that the scum would send the tracker to do the nightkill, i.e., that the person performing the nightkill was either nom or myself. Thus, there was ZERO chance that tracking Chito/Nuko would get a guilty...but what it WOULD have done is soft-cleared them
, making it LESS LIKELY THEY'D GET LYNCHED. Also even IF Chito/Nuko did the kill...if their scumbuddy got the track result...they could lie, to false-clear C/N.)
At about 9, nom quoted my post 14, and said, "If that's the case...
...It makes me think a lot."
At about 10:50, nom submitted a LuckyOtter track, "I'll submit this for now".
On Tuesday, at ~2:10 pm, I responded to post 16 with critical analysis: "Objectively Chito/Nuko are a better innocent to get--not only are they better players overall, but also because they are less-townread. HOWEVER, subjectively, I feel like we're less likely to get a guilty tracking them. Remember, they were a tertiary suspect yesterday; behind Gemini and apthet, they were a primary scumspect for BOTH of us.
Scum COULD pick the players most accurate for the track and hope that in doing so we wifom our ways out of our accuracy...but if so, said scum couldn't include Krazy. BNL could do it without Krazy's input, but Krazy wouldn't do it. The reason WHY Krazy wouldn't do it, wouldn't rely on wifom, is because he knows me well enough to know that I don't wifom-second-guess my scumreads. Because he knows I don't wifom-second-guess my scumreads, he knows I'd be inclined to track either himself or Gemini. Given that, I'm not confident a scum-Chito/Nuko make the kill.
Basically...Krazy knows that I'm an obsessive compulsive tunneler. Selecting me as a tracker doesn't make me suddenly wifom my way out of my reads, having a player flip town that I was scumreading
still
doesn't shake me out of my reads, and given Krazy knows this, he knows that I'd track either Chito/Nuko or Gemini.
That doesn't mean Chito/Nuko can't perform the nightkill. It's possible this internship selection was done without consulting Krazy in spite of him being scum. Or it's possible Krazy was
that
convinced I'd track Gemini. But it DOES make it
less-likely
that a scum Chito/Nuko make the nightkill. UNLESS the scumteam is
exactly
Chito/Nuko-Gemini.
By far the safer play is for Chito/Nuko being scum with literally anyone other than Gemini, for the non-Chito/Nuko player to make the kill."
Took me until 2:15 to post the follow-through: "I feel...
If the scumteam is
exactly
Chito/Nuko-Gemini, tracking Chito/Nuko will get a guilty.
If the scumteam's
any other combination
of Chito/Nuko-someone else, tracking Chito/Nuko's guaranteed to not be a guilty.
In that sense, tracking Chito/Nuko has some utility. If an innocent, proves Chito/Nuko-Gemini's NOT the scumteam and thus that one of our townreads is wrong. If a guilty, pretty much solidifies the Chito/Nuko-Gemini theory, solidifying an autowin.
(NOTE: If I were the gambity player nom keeps insisting I am, the gambity play here would've been tracking Chito/Nuko and deliberately having Chito/Nuko perform the nightkill to get caught; this would "clear" both myself and nom, leading to a free Gemini mislynch on D3. But of course that didn't happen because I'm not. Thus why the Parachutes nightkill proves I'm not scum but I digress.) So from a mechanical standpoint, objectively a Chito/Nuko track is a solid maneuver.
Yet subjectively, I feel it's banking on a very specific outcome and if we want a guilty we've got better odds elsewhere.
What do you think? Is the mechanical elimination-or-confirmation of one specific scumteam combination worth the probability of no guilty, or do we aim for a guilty because the mechanical elimination-or-confirmation of one specific scumteam isn't worth it?"
At about 3:30 pm, post 21, nom responded, "We're aiming for the better solve, yes? One option I feel like is definitely a gamble. With how you phrase it, Chito/Nuko does sound like a gambit. I dunno.
Terribly tired, need a good night of sleep on this."
At 7 pm, I quoted that, and went, "Well we're
aiming
for a guilty.
Guilties are easier to get if we have the better solve, and a guilty
leads
to a better solve, but a better solve in of itself is not what we're after. We don't need to get the exact scumteam; we need to, ideally, get a guilty...or have the innocent be a decent consolation prize."
At about 9 pm, nom responded "Okay let's do Otter then. I think that's our best shot here.
Do we announce our result, or do we come up with a code to communicate the result? I assume we don't have access to this PT after a bit, soyeah."
At about 11:20 pm, I responded, "Well the scumteam already know our role here, so not telling the town would be literally pointless. We'd be denying town which scum already know, and I don't see any reason to do that, sooo...fullclaim at daystart, yeah."
That's the first page; there's not much after that.
Just, an hour later, nom going "Okay, got it".
And then, on Wednesday at 5:15 pm, schadd doing the dice roll; 1 mastina, 2 nom, with it landing on 2.
schadd announced nom would track LuckyOtter in post 27.
And the final post, Thursday at 10:50 am, was "thanks for the unpaid labor".
That's the internship fully paraphrased.
