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[Jesus Louisus]

I meant to go into this more “guns blazing!” than I have so far and I’m sorry about that. Things have been busier than expected today but I expect I’ll be all caught up soon.

Are you saying you have a gun?

He put the word gun in quotes. Maybe it was a claim. I don't think he does it like this if he were a cop though.

PGO, maybe it was a bait. That could explain the 2 kills.

[nomnomnom]

I meant to go into this more “guns blazing!” than I have so far and I’m sorry about that. Things have been busier than expected today but I expect I’ll be all caught up soon.

Are you saying you have a gun?

He put the word gun in quotes. Maybe it was a claim. I don't think he does it like this if he were a cop though.

PGO, maybe it was a bait. That could explain the 2 kills.

PGO isn't normal

[Jesus Louisus]

I meant to go into this more “guns blazing!” than I have so far and I’m sorry about that. Things have been busier than expected today but I expect I’ll be all caught up soon.

Are you saying you have a gun?

He put the word gun in quotes. Maybe it was a claim. I don't think he does it like this if he were a cop though.

PGO, maybe it was a bait. That could explain the 2 kills.

PGO isn't normal

What about a crumb for a fake Miller claim down the line?

[nomnomnom]

What about a crumb for a fake Miller claim down the line?

I don't get where you're going with this.

[Jesus Louisus]

What about a crumb for a fake Miller claim down the line?

I don't get where you're going with this.

IMO, He put the word Gun in quotes for a reason

[nomnomnom]

imo you're reading too much into it, literally would not have thought that ever

[Jesus Louisus]

imo you're reading too much into it, literally would not have thought that ever

Are you just trying to discredit my theory because you share a scum PT with him and this is thwarting your plans?

[LuckyOtter]

What I'm getting at is that roster is feeling like lynchbait and that worries me, about your slot in particular.

Why? I'm not after rosterfoster. He's on the townside of my reads.

You're still implying there might be something scummy about his voting pattern, though. Otherwise, why make the 'scramble' comment at all? Was his response to that sufficient for you?

Neat. You ask me why I ask questions. I respond with the reason behind asking it (generally because there could be a scummy explanation), and you start accusing me of "still implying there might be something scummy".

Are you going to ask me if I've stopping beating my wife next?

Lol. I'm trying to figure out your intent behind the question and what you intend to do with the information. It's not lining up.

1. You ask roster why he's moving his vote around so much, and you ask him if he's scrambling (which if you want to talk about loaded questions, there you have one)
2. I say I don't really like this line of questioning because of how common votehopping is D1, but I ask you if you think roster's votehopping is more likely to come from scum than town.
3.

You say that you do, but that you're also townleaning him

. This is where I'm confused about what you're trying to accomplish here. Your questioning and reasoning for those questions imply you think he might be scum, but you're still townleaning him, and I'm not seeing how you've reconciled that. I even gave you a possible out here ("Was his response to that sufficient for you?") but instead you get defensive.

And it's weird because given your last post I'd think you would see where I was going with this.

It's a bit aggravating because otherwise I agree with a lot of your reads and approaches this game.

[nomnomnom]

imo you're reading too much into it, literally would not have thought that ever

Are you just trying to discredit my theory because you share a scum PT with him and this is thwarting your plans?

what a great deduction
nominating this for moment of brilliance

not

[nomnomnom]

for real though where *are* you going with this dude

[Alchemist21]

although my tinfoil rn is

montosh + roster + ????


Also, Niko is an idiot

I could still go for montosh. I’d like to see one of those 2 flip today.

[Jesus Louisus]

for real though where *are* you going with this dude

I got it. You highlighted the word ARE, as in the letter R. You must be the *R*ole cop.

[nomnomnom]

illuminarti

[Jesus Louisus]

for real though where *are* you going with this dude

Honestly, I am not going anywhere with it. But the attention it's still getting is a little weird.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 2.1

Not Voting(12)Eyes without a face,ofrhz,Nero Cain,Kublai Khan,Lil Uzi Vert,Jesus Louisus,Montosh,rosterfoster,Vorkuta,DeasVail,

EvilDeanius

Eyes without a face(1)nomnomnom,

rosterfoster(1)Alchemist21,

Jesus Louisus(1)RedFlavor,

Vorkuta(1)Kirari Momobami,

RedFlavor(1)LuckyOtter,

HeWhoSwims

nomnomnom(0)

Nero Cain(0)

LuckyOtter(0)

Saudade

Lil Uzi Vert(0)

Montosh(0)

ofrhz(0)

Alchemist21(0)

BodhiSmith13

DeasVail(0)

Kublai Khan(0)

Kirari Momobami(0)

No Lynch(0)

With 15 alive it is 8 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-07-07 10:50:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[LuckyOtter]

And now LuckyOtter.

I find it interesting that he commented on things during his catch-up, but never made any mention of my vote on him while he was V/LA.

Because I'm pretty sure my reaction would have been something along the lines of:

"DID YOU THINK YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH VOTING ME WHILE I WAS V/LA HUH!? HOW OPPORTUNISTIC!"

Okay that might be a bit of an exaggeration, but seriously. I kind of expect people to be at least a little bit self-consumed. After all, just look at my self-consumed concerns about Kublai!

Hey, I don't expect everyone to be exactly like me, but I find it odd that Otter talked about Jesus' gun comment, Nero saying that town shouldn't play like Roster did, and Kublai having an issue with roster moving his vote around (pretty innocuous things tbh) but not have anything to say about the big glaring elephant in the room of me voting for him. With the "commenting on things of interest to him" catch-up style, it seems unnatural that he didn't comment on that.

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I also am generally underwhelmed by Lil Uzi Vert.

I might have had that reaction if your vote looked obviously opportunistic to me, but it doesn't. If anything, I'd agree with Kublai that it sort of looks like avoiding the Niko wagon, but I don't have a substantive reason to believe that is more likely the case.

Are you trying to bait a OMGUS from me, though? You didn't really give me anything in particular to respond to as far as I remembered after catching up. But let's look.

If Eyes flips red (what happens 29 out of 30 times), I would lynch LuckyOtter next by the way.

I’ve just gotten to work and so I don’t have any more time after this, but I was actually thinking...

VOTE: LuckyOtter [...]
But if I had the choice of lynching anyone in this game right now it would be LuckyOtter and so that’s where I’m going. I know that they’re V/LA but every time reading a post of theirs when catching up it just felt... empty. There were questions askedbut I couldn’t work out why or for what purpose. There seemed to be commentary here and there but not much real assertion of opinion anywhere. I probably could explain this better if I had more time and I’ll check in later today if I can but this is where I’m at right now.

So like, what am I supposed to do with that? You're scumreading me because you don't like my style. I'm pretty used to that. But I can't respond to it, except that I'd disagree that I don't give my opinion anywhere. I'm just not as forceful about them as others on here. Other than that, I've got nothing to respond to here

[LuckyOtter]

@Mod

I'm voting RedFlavor

[Kublai Khan]

What I'm getting at is that roster is feeling like lynchbait and that worries me, about your slot in particular.

Why? I'm not after rosterfoster. He's on the townside of my reads.

You're still implying there might be something scummy about his voting pattern, though. Otherwise, why make the 'scramble' comment at all? Was his response to that sufficient for you?

Neat. You ask me why I ask questions. I respond with the reason behind asking it (generally because there could be a scummy explanation), and you start accusing me of "still implying there might be something scummy".

Are you going to ask me if I've stopping beating my wife next?

Lol. I'm trying to figure out your intent behind the question and what you intend to do with the information. It's not lining up.

1. You ask roster why he's moving his vote around so much, and you ask him if he's scrambling (which if you want to talk about loaded questions, there you have one)
2. I say I don't really like this line of questioning because of how common votehopping is D1, but I ask you if you think roster's votehopping is more likely to come from scum than town.
3.

You say that you do, but that you're also townleaning him

. This is where I'm confused about what you're trying to accomplish here. Your questioning and reasoning for those questions imply you think he might be scum, but you're still townleaning him, and I'm not seeing how you've reconciled that. I even gave you a possible out here ("Was his response to that sufficient for you?") but instead you get defensive.

And it's weird because given your last post I'd think you would see where I was going with this.

It's a bit aggravating because otherwise I agree with a lot of your reads and approaches this game.

First, I'm town-reading him for a different reason. I noticed something on the re-read and it may be bunk, but if it's not then it's stronger than any gut-twitch I may have.

Both of the voting-based questions were based on minor gut-twitches that are enough to ask a question, but not really follow through with.
1-Vote hopping could be a little scummy if it's to hide a scumtrail.
2-The "scrambling" just stood out as weird because it was a correction followed by "mea culpas". It just felt like it negated the sincerity of the regret. Probably nothing, but it popped into my brain at the time.

Neither of those things are "a-ha scuM!" (by themselves or together) and I never even connected them until you posted about it. I had forgotten about the first and was on the way to forgetting about the second before you chimed in that I was "still going on about his voting habits". So I got defensive because I think you're barking up the wrong tree and painting me as scum.

[Alchemist21]

There are too many people arguing for there to be this few votes going around.

[Kublai Khan]

Yeah, okay.

VOTE: RedFlavor

[Kublai Khan]

Wait, Vorkuta has a vote already.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[Not Known 15]

@Mod

I'm voting RedFlavor

Fixed.

[RedFlavor]

Lulz

[Kublai Khan]

Oh. Well.. okay. Either way.

[Eyes without a face]

PGO, maybe it was a bait. That could explain the 2 kills.

Creature wasn't even a visiting role.