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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:02 pm

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Do we get an extension just because we want one, though?
The other thing that strikes me as peculiar is that homeboy didn't claim
Doctor Enabler.
He claimed
Town Doctor Enabler.
And that just skeeves me real hard.

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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:19 pm

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Would you rather he claimed scum doctor enabler?

That is however the best reasoning for it that i’ve Seen.

I don’t believe he makes that claim up, though, so regardless of alignment, i feel he is a doctor enabler.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:46 pm

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If DEB is scum fake claiming it might be likely that scum have an informed role about the existence of a doctor, else I don't see why he wouldn't just claim doctor.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:47 pm

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or any other PR that would actually out roles for that matter
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:13 pm

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Doctor Enabler has plausible deniability and still potentially outs a doctor while also potentially drawing doc shots.
Whereas something like COP ENABLER would be a really shitty scum fakeclaim.
So really
It's bad.

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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:19 pm

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Prodding mastina.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:20 pm

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Jingle wrote:
Prodding mastina.
thank you jingle, very cool

got distracted with stuff as I am wont to do, so I'll finish rereads tomorrow
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:23 pm

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With 13 alive, it is 7 to Lynch or No Lynch!

ZZZX (4): , , , ,
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Flavor Leaf (1): ,
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:20 pm

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The thing that bothers me is that he waited so long to claim, when he could have just said enabler. I don't even think he had to specify what he enabled. That would have given town the needed information, and kept something from scum. But adding doctor in the mix can cause some town excitement over not wanting to lose a potential doctor.


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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:33 pm

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His slot is self-sorting. We established that the doc doesn't target DEB, so he's a prime target for the NK as town regardless of claim validity.

If scum wants to keep him around as a later day mislynch, and he's saying the truth - at least we had an active doctor till then.

Claiming "town" doctor enabler isn't weird. Move off DEB.

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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm

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In post 701, Flavor Leaf wrote:Would you rather he claimed scum doctor enabler?

That is however the best reasoning for it that i’ve Seen.

I don’t believe he makes that claim up, though, so regardless of alignment, i feel he is a doctor enabler.
Actually, scum doctor enabler would be a really cool role.
In post 709, Arkham Asylum wrote:His slot is self-sorting. We established that the doc doesn't target DEB, so he's a prime target for the NK as town regardless of claim validity.

If scum wants to keep him around as a later day mislynch, and he's saying the truth - at least we had an active doctor till then.

Claiming "town" doctor enabler isn't weird. Move off DEB.

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The problem is that the game is flipless - we'll never get any kind of confirmation.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 710, Pine wrote:The problem is that the game is flipless - we'll never get any kind of confirmation.
Pretty sure there are still night kills - and a single slot dying in the night will very likely be town anyway.

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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:14 pm

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I hate the self-sorting argument on every level that there is to hate something.

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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:18 pm

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In post 709, Arkham Asylum wrote:His slot is self-sorting. We established that the doc doesn't target DEB, so he's a prime target for the NK as town regardless of claim validity.

If scum wants to keep him around as a later day mislynch, and he's saying the truth - at least we had an active doctor till then.

Claiming "town" doctor enabler isn't weird. Move off DEB.

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+1

Agreed, nothing at all suspicious about claiming either “town or “doc” .

DEB’s slot is easily resolvable because of this and a pointless vote.

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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:19 pm

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Unless you can tell me why it's a bad idea to leave the slot and lynch it later if it survives, it's valid logic.

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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 707, Jingle wrote:
Vote Count 1.15
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With 13 alive, it is 7 to Lynch or No Lynch!

ZZZX (4): , , , ,
Dr Easy Bake (3): , , ,
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mastina (1): ,
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Deadline: Day 1 will end in 10 days, on June 29th. This is in (expired on 2019-06-30 07:00:00).

ZZZX is V/LA.
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12 hour extension granted due to the delay in mod duties. I do not believe a further extension is warranted at this time.
UNVOTE:

Scum is either on DEB or shading his claim.

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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 708, Chickadee wrote:The thing that bothers me is that he waited so long to claim, when he could have just said enabler. I don't even think he had to specify what he enabled. That would have given town the needed information, and kept something from scum. But adding doctor in the mix can cause some town excitement over not wanting to lose a potential doctor.


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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:26 pm

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DEB doesnt come up with that here on his own; he’s either true claiming as town, has that role or scum, or somebody coached him into it
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:49 pm

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In post 715, Arkham Asylum wrote:Scum is either on DEB or shading his claim.

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I don't agree.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:01 pm

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In post 714, Arkham Asylum wrote:Unless you can tell me why it's a bad idea to leave the slot and lynch it later if it survives, it's valid logic.

-The Joker
Plenty of good reason--DEB was widely scumread enough to be put at L-1. DEB hasn't contributed anything meaningful to progress the game state, develop reads, or make reading his slot easier. There's no indicator that DEB will do any of this if left alive. It only behooves us to lynch scum. The same 'well we can lynch it later if it survives' logic could literally be applied to ANY lynch on ANY slot on D1, too. Someone needs to eat the rope and I'm perfectly fine with the risk of losing a Doctor Enabler against the chance of catching scum here and now.
In post 717, Flavor Leaf wrote:DEB doesnt come up with that here on his own; he’s either true claiming as town, has that role or scum, or somebody coached him into it
Why not?

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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:05 pm

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In post 689, Dannflor wrote:
In post 653, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why?
Why is he scum?

Chemist is LHF in every game but several of his posts have town pinged me this game so I'm kind of wary of him being set up as the default compromise lynch

He's definitely readable imo
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I feel he's much less involved than open 755.
Post 551 is after some break but it is mostly stating some very uncontroversial, easy to come up with, LAMIST things that don't actually tell us much about him or any of the slots he mentioned.

Also the RVS posting kinda sounds like a cheeky scum entrance.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:06 pm

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Ftr I started the zzzx wagon.

Let me double check something real quick.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:09 pm

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In post 721, NerfedBuJ wrote:Ftr I started the zzzx wagon.

Let me double check something real quick.
Nvm I have never played with scum Z
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:09 pm

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VOTE: Binary Store
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:14 pm

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In post 723, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Binary Store
I would be impressed with BOTH of you if this flips scum

After RVS the slot startd to pump out really townie-sounding posts
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