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Nero Cain · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:50 pm

In post 1272, ofrhz wrote:I think Nero is town ftr

I am but y r u town reading me?

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:03 pm

In post 1275, Nero Cain wrote:I am but y r u town reading me?

A) She's trying to seduce you with her townread

OR

B) She's able to read you

Which do you want to bet on?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:10 pm

How do you know ofrhz is a she when they list no pronoun?

The paranoia in me says A. I think I often get scum read by people that are unfamiliar with me but I guess ofrhz has some exp with me.

I dunno why you felt the need to jump in. Why?

ofrhz · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:16 pm

uhhh I am a she (though most people assume I'm not, so now I'm tempted to althunt Kirari :3)

idk I do think you're more likely to be town this game

I don't agree with your pushes but I do think you genuinely believe in them

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:43 pm

In post 1277, Nero Cain wrote:I dunno why you felt the need to jump in. Why?

Felt like provoking you mostly

I was going to say "cause she can read" but that felt condescending, but you are pretty town here and thinking you can't be read as town seems silly

Vorkuta · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:46 pm

In post 1274, DeasVail wrote:Reading through Vorkuta and Jesus again, I still stand by this.

I think I should vote creature again.....
like....

*sighs*

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:50 pm

In post 1280, Vorkuta wrote:I think I should vote creature again.....
like....

*sighs*

that's one surefire way to vote a scum slot!

ofrhz · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:04 pm

In post 1075, Kirari Momobami wrote:VOTE: vork.

Literally just guessing who wouldn't submit a commute for creature, let me know if you disagree

idk I think Vork is town

Kirari I have played with you before, yeah?

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:24 pm

In post 1282, ofrhz wrote:Kirari I have played with you before, yeah?

What's the fun in althunting if I make it easy for you?

ofrhz · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:25 pm

ok w/e

I will say that I believe Vorkuta is town :dab:

and that I'm annoyed by the votes on him

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:47 pm

Sure

why is jesus better than uhh...

LuckyOtter
Eyes without a face
nomnomnom
RedFlavor
Lil Uzi Vert

any of those?

ofrhz · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:02 pm

I straight up townread Eyes, nom, and red

Lucky is meh mainly because their posts are a chore to get through

LUV hasn't left much of an impression on me either way

I'm not opposed to moving my vote onto LuckyOtter or LUV, but I'm not sure why I should atm absent a compelling reason to move my vote off of Jesus and onto someone else

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:04 pm

can you walk me through those townreads a bit?

ofrhz · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:10 pm

In post 1287, Kirari Momobami wrote:can you walk me through those townreads a bit?

I think eyes is more aggressive than I have seen them as scum (compare this game to Panic room where they were scum)

Nom is a townread based on their questioning of Jesus. I think their questioning was just like “lol why do you think this way” at first and when Jesus’ answers didn’t make sense, she started scumreading that slot. The progression felt really genuine

Red is the weakest townread but I think their unabased willingness to yolo build wagons last day phase at expensive of how it ~looked~ comes more fromtown this scum

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:46 pm

In post 550, Jesus Louisus wrote:And after Hws flips red we lynch peepeekop tomorrow.

not really the words of someone who plans to kill piss that night, although maybe he was just outvoted in the scum PT?

Montosh · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:28 am

In post 1210, LuckyOtter wrote:
In post 1198, Montosh wrote:
Otter ISO:

551 Otter I'd be down if you could explore a little bit more what about HWS' posting made you change your mind on them?
Sure. Here's the game I played with him: viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76409
He was townie here. He was also IC which may have contributed to his stilted style, but you can see why I didn't scumread him right away. The Hmmm tell just isn't a thing for him. But after that, in the present game, he just totally disengages. In my previous game with him, he was pushing and prodding very methodically. The only reason I'm not hard voting that slot right now is because he replaced out, and because the previous game was a very different context. There's enough reason to doubt that his play here is scum indicative.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. Definitely more engaged in that game, though still a somewhat low amount of posting it seems to me (compared to most people on Day 1). I still find this hard to read from for a couple reasons though now:

1) Looking at his profile, as I noted previously, this appears to be HWS' first game in nearly a year.
2) Obviously, as you say, being an IC in a newbie game is a different responsibility with an expectation that they'll help the game along. In contrast, there is much less of that expectation here.
3) Some people (like myself) become less active as scum. Some people become more active and post a lot. I think lurking is slightly scummy in general, but from that game it doesn't seem like his town playstyle is super active either.
4) He wasn't here for very long.

Montosh · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:17 am

HWS:

203 More on the joke post stuff. The way he's trying to validate Nero's actions here is weird. Like trying to get on the good side of a townie?
532 I mean, I think he's right that scum try to make empty posts. But ED wasn't really doing that. They weren't trying to appear to be contributing but actually saying nothing, they were just saying nothing of relevance. It wasn't active lurking but just lurking. Also I look at the way he responds to Nero and cringe a bit. Like very nervous about it.
574 Says he's cautious with votes. That seems consistent with the game that Otter quoted.

nom:

1060 Maybe it's opportunistic but I also don't like the "Good shot" reacting to a scum death so I can't quarrel that much. Wouldn't vote for it though.
1074 Why would you have taken the RVS claim all that seriously?
1089 Do you still feel this way nom? What are your reads now? Even if it's slim and now based on much.
1118 I'd forgotten that post. The joke read is my best so far lol.
1134 I'm also quite confused. I thought the "do you have a gun" thing was a joke.
1158 Is that vote because of the interaction in your previous posts? Or do you agree with Eyes who posted before you?
1170 It's entirely reasonable for Jesus to have a scumlean on you based on his read of your slot's previous occupant. In that regard you

are

HWS.
1172 Fair. Jesus sucks so far (Sacrilege I know).
1176 Can you expand on how you feel about Red?
1256 Nero sucks here. And everywhere.

Montosh · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:19 am

In post 1119, Nero Cain wrote:it's like how players claim scum as scum these days. Could Montosh just have been scum truth-telling here?

Creature has an established meta of flaking/lurking as scum (at least when I last played with him). Which do you think is more likely? Me joking based on that or me being scum truth-telling in a joke RVS post?

Jesus Louisus · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:43 am

In post 1191, rosterfoster wrote:I get townvibes from Jesus.

Source: We (both town) shared a hood in Boony game.

I was also getting town vibes from Creature though, so Jesus is probably scum.

Ditto

Jesus Louisus · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:48 am

In post 1211, nomnomnom wrote:Tbh the fact it's a large isn't my problem, just that many slots are hard to sort. The amount of posts this game is absurdly low for a large.
I expected to have better cases replacing in n1 and rereading the thread but I guess things are still a bit shaky.

Jesus is my only solid lead so far.

Them, my friend you are lost at sea

Jesus Louisus · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:50 am

In post 1219, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1217, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 1214, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: jesus
I am happy to indulge your kinks

Why is jesus scum now? Have you begun worshipping buddha?
I didn’t like his votes around deadline yesterday

His reaction to guns blazing does seem rolefishy too

I don't like your vote right now either. Maybe think about who you would ping as scum when I flip town.

Go ahead and get in that mindset.

Montosh · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:52 am

@Jesus Was your guns post a joke or not?

Jesus Louisus · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:53 am

In post 1256, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1255, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1253, ofrhz wrote:Why nom? I kinda liked her interaction with Jesus
that whole "I only have one strong scum read" just looks like scum that's keeping their options open.
Not gonna force reads I'm not confident in.
I like jesus as scum so I'm pushing that. I don't really see the problem.

The problem is you are playing to scum's wincon even if not intentionally.

Jesus Louisus · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:59 am

In post 1296, Montosh wrote:@Jesus Was your guns post a joke or not?

It was intended to be cheeky but it wasn't completely a joke.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:36 am

In post 1295, Jesus Louisus wrote:
In post 1219, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1217, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 1214, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: jesus
I am happy to indulge your kinks

Why is jesus scum now? Have you begun worshipping buddha?
I didn’t like his votes around deadline yesterday

His reaction to guns blazing does seem rolefishy too
I don't like your vote right now either. Maybe think about who you would ping as scum when I flip town.

Go ahead and get in that mindset.

In post 1297, Jesus Louisus wrote:
In post 1256, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1255, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1253, ofrhz wrote:Why nom? I kinda liked her interaction with Jesus
that whole "I only have one strong scum read" just looks like scum that's keeping their options open.
Not gonna force reads I'm not confident in.
I like jesus as scum so I'm pushing that. I don't really see the problem.
The problem is you are playing to scum's wincon even if not intentionally.

Jesus how about pushing some read instead of continuously saying how bad your lynch is.