BTE: Boon Wars - Attack of the Colognes

[davesaz]

Fire is scum because he's making absolutely no effort to determine people's alignments by actually talking with them.
Commenting on a bunch of out of context things is useless. If you think he's sorting, you're confusing activity with purpose.

[insomnia]

I don’t have any reason behind voting Firebringer.

At best he’s a 3p

[Firebringer]

Fire is scum because he's making absolutely no effort to determine people's alignments by actually talking with them.
Commenting on a bunch of out of context things is useless. If you think he's sorting, you're confusing activity with purpose.

r u describing me or u?

[Firebringer]

come on, that comment had to be about urself. U haven't been talking to almost anyone all game? What r u talking about that with this?

[Irrelephant11]

Great you're all three annoying town in your own unique ways
and if you're not you're still the only three players who might play this game enough to lead a lynch on a scum

should we lynch baezu, LUV, or flippy

[Firebringer]

here are reads:

null-
davesaz
LUV
Penguinpower (kind of leaning town but I don't think I said that anywhere)
Emperor
Aristo (this could easily be scum game)

Town-
Beazu
Insomnia
Nero
almost50

[Firebringer]

Great you're all three annoying town in your own unique ways

I do not approve of this read. I prefer annoying player ty sir.

[Ausuka]

VOTE: luv

[insomnia]

Fire is scum because he's making absolutely no effort to determine people's alignments by actually talking with them.
Commenting on a bunch of out of context things is useless. If you think he's sorting, you're confusing activity with purpose.

Note that this comes from the guy that says scum hunting doesn’t lock you town and that not scum hunting does lock you scum

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: luv

hi ausuka! say more!

[insomnia]

The vote that says a hundred words

[Ausuka]

VOTE: luv

hi ausuka! say more!

I can write an essay for you tomorrow but the tldr is that he's engaging in an excessive amount of questions/arguments but there doesn't appear to be a genuine scum hunting desire/structure behind it.

[Irrelephant11]

I'll wait for the essay, yes.

[davesaz]

here are reads:

null-
davesaz
LUV
Penguinpower (kind of leaning town but I don't think I said that anywhere)
Emperor
Aristo (this could easily be scum game)

Town-
Beazu
Insomnia
Nero
almost50

No scumreads?

[Nero Cain]

the point of engaging with scum is......?

[davesaz]

the point of engaging with scum is......?

Using the interaction to show other town, if you're right.
If you're wrong, using the interaction to find out you're wrong.
Sounds like a win-win to me. It's pretty much always good to interact.

Any other questions?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Let me try to be as clear as possible because I don’t see what isn’t being understood.

You said that you are putting more weight to the interactions as opposed to individual posts in regards to finding Alisae’s partner. You clarified that you meant not to put stock into what Alisae said in twilight. This explains you ruling out Ausuka but my issue is that it doesn’t explain your scum read on Dr. Worm.

I don’t think the interactions Alisae and Worm had were strange outside of the bit about the drum sticks. I brought up what looks like an attempt to coach again because I feel like scum wouldn’t be so blatant and because I think it would at least make you reconsider your read on Dr. Worm.

I brought up the genuine frustration thing because based on your own words, you should be looking at Baezu and a few others as well. However you explaining that you’re putting more weight into interactions explains this some for me but not enough.

This is as clear as I’m going to get I think.

I don't think the coaching bit was strange and not something I really took notice. I think their shit posting + worm push wasn't authentically done. At least not from worm perspective. So I don't know what to tell u here.

If I had a five bulletproof paragraph analysis on dr worm/alisae interactions that made me think this, I would explain it but a lot is just going of how I feel they interacted and my own thoughts on dr worm being scum independently. Like I don't believe dr worm is doing scumhunting here. It seems like a going through the motions approach. Maybe ali/worm aren't buddies but it seems to fit with how I expect ali to act with a scumbuddy loosely.

I don’t recall a push on Alisae from Worm. Just a lot of agreeing and sheeping. I went back and I couldn’t really get anything out of how he did that as he just naked voted and echo’d thoughts on the signaling case.

He’s not scum hunting but I don’t think that’s alignment indicative. It’s also harder to gauge when it can be due to his gimmick.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: luv

hi ausuka! say more!

I can write an essay for you tomorrow but the tldr is that he's engaging in an excessive amount of questions/arguments but there doesn't appear to be a genuine scum hunting desire/structure behind it.

Are you still on me focusing about Enigma? I don’t get where this is coming from at all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: luv

hi ausuka! say more!

I can write an essay for you tomorrow but the tldr is that he's engaging in an excessive amount of questions/arguments but there doesn't appear to be a genuine scum hunting desire/structure behind it.

Are you still concerned about me focusing on Enigma? I don’t get where this is coming from at all.

EBWOP.

[davesaz]

Fire is scum because he's making absolutely no effort to determine people's alignments by actually talking with them.
Commenting on a bunch of out of context things is useless. If you think he's sorting, you're confusing activity with purpose.

Note that this comes from the guy that says scum hunting doesn’t lock you town and that not scum hunting does lock you scum

I believe your understanding is lacking.

I have an issue with people saying their fortuitous d1 scum push makes them

lock

town.
I'm quite likely to townbin them myself, without prompting, if they don't push that angle and brag on it.
The brag is a gigantic red flag.
In your favor, you aren't doing what people tend to do when they're scum and I push them for this.

Irrelephant did a similar thing BTW, and there was also an element that's pretty hard to swallow (the claim that posting "agreed" was a trap for Alisae, but saying that

only

after it came up in conversation). Between the two of you, if there is scum in the town list it's currently more likely to be Irrelephant. We're a very long way from needing to resolve that.

I'll comment on the 2nd half of your misunderstanding later.

[davesaz]

At best he’s a 3p

Boon has been pretty clear that the BooneyToonz multiball setting is for multiple groupscum.
Do you have some reason to think there is a 3p? Or is this you trying to say that Fire can't be either scum team for some reason?

[insomnia]

It’s just me not really reading the setup

[insomnia]

So I’ve done an action that would’ve normally put me in your town spots

But the fact that I have stated I have done a town action nullifies that

Fair logic

[insomnia]

If you scum read people that state the obvious, we’re gonna have a rough time here buddy

[Nero Cain]

the point of engaging with scum is......?

Using the interaction to show other town, if you're right.
If you're wrong, using the interaction to find out you're wrong.
Sounds like a win-win to me. It's pretty much always good to interact.

Any other questions?

fair