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[popsofctown]

DeasVail, have you played with Eyes before?

[DeasVail]

No

[Eyes without a face]

DeasVail, have you played with Eyes before?

roster did. he knows my scum game well enough because he was scum with me and he sure as hell knows this is not it. He just thinks I'm an easy push either today or down the way.

Like, he is defending JL hard and pushing me as scum when he said I was busing both him and awest when were scum together. Wouldn't make more sense for him to have pushed JL as my p then?

[Eyes without a face]

Indeed, but the point about the Creature votes is very correct.

I think Eyes was kind of pulling out random people who were town and then found townresd in what RF was saying. I don’t think he’d do that to a partner (I was scum with him once and he was obvbussing is both very hard at one point).

Here. He says he doesn't think I'd do what I did to RedFlavor as a partner because I obvbus my partners in his experience. The question is why is he not considering JL for scum if he scum reads me for real?

[popsofctown]

No

I think you're townreading him for stuff that is just part of his style. He's always pretty bold. If you look instead at the positions he's taken this game, I don't think it looks as good.

[RedFlavor]

I unvoted creature because he softed pr + he flipped inactive town in other game btw

[popsofctown]

That's a lie. You unvoted Creature in this game on June 19th. You didn't vote Creature in the other game until June 20th, and you didn't see his green flip until June 21st. This is postprocessed fabrication. If anything you knew Creature was scum in this game from your role PM and you mislynched him for playing to similarly to here in your other game.

VOTE: RedFlavor

[rosterfoster]

Indeed, but the point about the Creature votes is very correct.

I think Eyes was kind of pulling out random people who were town and then found townresd in what RF was saying. I don’t think he’d do that to a partner (I was scum with him once and he was obvbussing is both very hard at one point).

Here. He says he doesn't think I'd do what I did to RedFlavor as a partner because I obvbus my partners in his experience. The question is why is he not considering JL for scum if he scum reads me for real?

Because you're not obvbussing Jesus.

Sure you're not playing exactly the same as in panic room, but there is less incentive to completely bus here. Plus I think you've learned from that game. What I mean by this is that I think you're not inclined to hard-town lock your partners as scum.

[rosterfoster]

viewtopic.php?p=11043515#p11043515 is the newbie game (how the fuck pops knows about that I have no idea). I'll have a check.

[rosterfoster]

UNVOTE:

Seems pretty clear.

VOTE: Red

I don't appreciate lying about your thoughts <3

[popsofctown]

I searched Creature's and RedFlavor's posts after reading 1480. I don't spec games that much.

[Nero Cain]

creature voting RF doesn't mean he's likely town?

[rosterfoster]

Was there ever a wagon on RF?

Creature’s scum game is not so bad so I’m not sure it outweighs outright lies about his thought processes.

[nomnomnom]

lol

VOTE: RedFlavor

[RedFlavor]

What the fuck
I guess i just unvoted for soft damn

[Alchemist21]

Was there ever a wagon on RF?

Creature’s scum game is not so bad so I’m not sure it outweighs outright lies about his thought processes.

There was a wagon really early on.

VOTE: RedFlavor

[RedFlavor]

I guess I remembered it wrong, ok? I remember thinking about "Hmm I guess creature has a site wide thing" while in the game and tbf obviously i dont pay attention to thia game
Now unvote me redos

[DeasVail]

I don’t get it

[DeasVail]

On further thought I very much disagree with the Red wagon

[DeasVail]

It makes far more sense for scum to actually have the details correct.

I feel like this mistake is more likely to come from town who vaguely remember reasons for forming a read but don’t remember order of events (easy to do) than scum who are more likely to make sure of the details of what they are saying.

Honestly it only strengthens my Red townread.

[Alchemist21]

I take timestamp tells pretty seriously. And I have on one occasion seen scum mess up in a similar manner.

[DeasVail]

Fair enough. It just to me seems like a really likely thing for town to do and with all the excitement I wonder if I’m missing something but I’m pretty sure I’m not?

[popsofctown]

It makes far more sense for scum to actually have the details correct.

I feel like this mistake is more likely to come from town who vaguely remember reasons for forming a read but don’t remember order of events (easy to do) than scum who are more likely to make sure of the details of what they are saying.

Honestly it only strengthens my Red townread.

It's not a vaguely similar reason, DeasVail, it's a fundamentally different reason. At the moment RedFlavor made that unvote post Redflavor was either nullreading or scumreading Creature in his other game. If he remembers the reasons for making the unvote it has to be a fluffy grey or red cloud right now and RedFlavor is claiming it was green right now.

You are definitely missing something.

[RedFlavor]

How the fuck is making mistakes is a fucking reason and why the fuck would I lie openly on purpose

[Kublai Khan]

Current read on nom is leaning scum.

Why?

I wasn't very fond of the HWS slot to begin with.

That is an answer, but that doesn't answer my question. What has the either HeWhoSwims or nomnomnom done to make you think that they have a scum role?

Because right now I'm siding with them in that you're evasive.

I wouldn't say I'm being evasive, I think of it more like being speculative. Is there anything wrong with that?

Speaking of you being evasive, why do you have a scum read on the HeWhoSwims or nomnomnom slot?

Speaking of you being very evasive and scummy, why did you have a scum read on the HeWhoSwims or nomnomnom slot?