Role Call I (Game Over)

[Saudade]

I dont find vecnas opinions scummy

[Saudade]

I dont like you weird pokemon

[Oversoul]

(I think I don't I think I just want to lynch my scumread).

wut

[Oversoul]

I don't think the king's actions should be leashed on D3 but I think the king should be held accountable for his actions. It's possible the D3 roster is so powerful that the scum gets positive equity from the king drawing up a blatantly antitown playbook and being lynched the next day, granting inactive to the person we made the inventor or maybe even someone we made a cop day 2, killing the D5 IC, granting himself vengeful maybe... it could be some really bad stuff. So I think the kingship should be granted to a townread. A widely townread king who gets NKed would be good for us, a town king is only slightly better than a democratic day 3 and nothing like the advantage generated by a town inventor, the IC, probably it doesn't matter even as much as motion detector.

I'm not sure I follow this post...

You acknowledge the disastrous fallout if the King goes to scum, yet think it is better to role the dice for only a slightly better advantage than just dictating how the king should act? I'd like to play Poker with you.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Sorry, I'm just marvelling at the awful nightkill architecture for this game.
There's no reason to do anything besides kill the strongest town player, essentially, because if you kill off a PR the universal backup gets it anyway and there's guaranteed to be no protectives.

My head at least is just going to 0 post for D1 in the hopes that it disincentivizes nightkilling us. GL guys.

[popsofctown]

Leashing the king gives him 2 options, perform the democratic proposal, or defect and anticipate being lynched for it and do as he likes. He gets to find out what's in the proposal before he chooses, so he can choose not to defect because we've put antitown stuff in the proposal by accident.
Leaving the king unleashed only gives him 1 option, defect, he's always accountable for what he does with the proposal.

If the roster of actions day 3 is weak enough that it'd never be worth sacrificing a scum teammate to control them, I think leashing is worthwhile in that case. But if defecting is a realistic play then I think it's better not to put the ball in scum court. And the scum won't get to influence the proposal if it's not democratic.

[popsofctown]

Please sign hydra posts

[popsofctown]

You are supposed to kill a negative utility PR, forcing the universal backup to become a negative utility PR. It's opposite day.


I have no idea why you are complaining about the setup design resulting in a nightkill strategy of kill the most protown player because that's the nightkill strategy in mountainous and also the nightkill strategy in basically any closed game where no successful rolefishing took place.

It's a social deduction game you're supposed to want to remove the people who are doing well at the social deduction game sorry you're not going to have some kind of fascinating decision whether it's better to surprise Veigar ult the healer before their heal spell or value removing the ranged carry but I would really consider my expectation betrayed rather than fulfilled if the rolecall mechanic added a separate axis for the nightkills instead of mostly being standard mafia.

[popsofctown]

@callforjudgment: if we were given this exact same role list tomorrow, and we gave the miller role to the player who we previously made day 5 IC, that player would receive no modconfirmation of innocence on day 5 regardless of alignment, correct?

[Almost50]

Really? Pops and Saudade scum.

Disagree about Pops.

[Almost50]

I'm getting at that a difficult to read player seems like the best fit for the IC role.

That would be RC (The SSS hydra) then. They're hard to lynch without a hard guilty, yet everybody wants to lynch them from the word go anyway.

[Almost50]

If we are talking about roles, I think I would want one shot gladiator. I could solve the game with that role Day 2.

How about we all play the game for now and leave the roles alone for a while? I am not concerned about what role I land as much as I am about not giving certain roles to scum.

[Almost50]

Hey I wanted to ego post anyway and I was too lazy to log in Hydra so

Forget the roles for now and concentrate on who you think is town and scum

I think this is one of the rare times I give RC town points off his first post!! (Should I be worried?)

[Almost50]

HURT: Whimsicott

If you want me to stay on top of things (sort of) please use the player names not their nicknames. Thank you very much.

[Almost50]

might as well get this over with:

VOTE: Saudude

Consider it an in-advance OMGUS

Worst entrance so far. Not necessarily scummy, but bad in the sense it addresses NOTHING in the game. It just denies the reader ANY kind of thought regarding your alignment.

[Almost50]

Each role must be given to one player, and each player must get a role.

Didn’t realize that everyone must get role

Felt like a minor town slip

I think timid and inactive should go to players who are lynch bait. Two of the towniest players should be neighbors.

Turned my alarm back on

[Almost50]

Read the mechanic peasant

He did, did you?

[Almost50]

@Mod how would a Timid King work?

I'm probably going to have a lot of mech questions throughout the game

Interesting question!

[popsofctown]

HEAL: mankey

[Saudade]

Going over the thread reaction-quote posting is the easiest way to play as scum

[Almost50]

@all: which player are you least confident in your ability to read?

Anyone I don't know and Saudade

??
since when have you read me right lol

Saudade, my dear friend.. could you

please

read the post you're responding to

before

you actually respond to it? I'll give you free town points (and a milkshake on top of that) if you do. Thank you.

[Oversoul]

If the roster of actions day 3 is weak enough that it'd never be worth sacrificing a scum teammate to control them, I think leashing is worthwhile in that case. But if defecting is a realistic play then I think it's better not to put the ball in scum court. And the scum won't get to influence the proposal if it's not democratic

If the roles from today were the roles for Day 3, what would you suggest we do to the King?

[Almost50]

I was also having a wank in the shower at the same time so I wouldnt push people to the rope over this read @ page 3

Poor little nation went down the sink.

[Oversoul]

HURT: Whimsicott

If you want me to stay on top of things (sort of) please use the player names not their nicknames. Thank you very much.

Whimiscott is the name of the Pokémon in my avatar. I disagree with your point about Lil Uzi Vert's "townslip", for the record

[Almost50]

I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself

can I be neighbour with cheekybreeky

I give up!

@All: I think IC should go to Saudade. I can't read him any better than I can read hieroglyphic