Large Normal 221 - Endgame

rosterfoster · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:10 am

I was wrong on eyes (I was actually going to push him for SK today so what do I know?) so give me time to re-evaluate.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:16 am

Alright.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:18 am

I honestly wonder why scums/SK decided to kill eyes given the heavy push on him yesterday by the way. I find that honestly nonsensical.

I just don't see it.

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:20 am

I don't think even a wild setup like this has two vigs that can both shoot on night 2 tho

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:21 am

In post 1578, Kirari Momobami wrote:I don't think even a wild setup like this has two vigs that can both shoot on night 2 tho

I’ve seen a 1-shot and a full vig in a 12-p Normal. Ask Vork about it.

rosterfoster · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:21 am

I said that I thought it was unlikely Eyes and RF would be scum together, so maybe they picked up on that or something.

Thinking I would suddenly start TR’ing eyes would be strange though, given the apparent existence of a SK.

So I’m still baffed

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:22 am

We really might just have an odd-Night vig and the scum Cop is a red herring or built-in fakeclaim.

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:24 am

Oh so scum shoot eyes to push sk narrative?

I kinda don't buy that but maybe

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:24 am

In post 1577, nomnomnom wrote:I honestly wonder why scums/SK decided to kill eyes given the heavy push on him yesterday by the way. I find that honestly nonsensical.

I just don't see it.

In post 1580, rosterfoster wrote:I said that I thought it was unlikely Eyes and RF would be scum together, so maybe they picked up on that or something.

Thinking I would suddenly start TR’ing eyes would be strange though, given the apparent existence of a SK.

So I’m still baffed

The Eyes Kill might have just been an “out-there” kill to confuse everyone and avoid getting stopped by a protective.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:24 am

In post 1582, Kirari Momobami wrote:Oh so scum shoot eyes to push sk narrative?

I kinda don't buy that but maybe

I'm not following that logic at all.

rosterfoster · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:25 am

No scum shooting Eyes would imply there isn’t a SK/they thought there isn’t one IMO.

#townslip time - do scum get told if there’s a traitor?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:26 am

In post 1583, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1577, nomnomnom wrote:I honestly wonder why scums/SK decided to kill eyes given the heavy push on him yesterday by the way. I find that honestly nonsensical.

I just don't see it.

In post 1580, rosterfoster wrote:I said that I thought it was unlikely Eyes and RF would be scum together, so maybe they picked up on that or something.

Thinking I would suddenly start TR’ing eyes would be strange though, given the apparent existence of a SK.

So I’m still baffed
The Eyes Kill might have just been an “out-there” kill to confuse everyone and avoid getting stopped by a protective.

Yeah but isn't that just outright a bad kill

Like there are neutral kills and there is killing a guy some people thought were scums alongside true Jesus so you know.

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:26 am

In normal games I think they usually do yeah. Secret traitors is more a theme game thing

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:27 am

In post 1585, rosterfoster wrote:No scum shooting Eyes would imply there isn’t a SK/they thought there isn’t one IMO.

#townslip time - do scum get told if there’s a traitor?

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
identity is not known by the Mafia team,
although they should know a Traitor exists

cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

nomnomnom · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:29 am

In post 1585, rosterfoster wrote:#townslip time - do scum get told if there’s a traitor?

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
- is Mafia-aligned
- knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
-
identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists

- cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
- is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
- gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

nomnomnom · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:29 am

GOD DAMN IT

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:32 am

In post 1586, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1583, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1577, nomnomnom wrote:I honestly wonder why scums/SK decided to kill eyes given the heavy push on him yesterday by the way. I find that honestly nonsensical.

I just don't see it.

In post 1580, rosterfoster wrote:I said that I thought it was unlikely Eyes and RF would be scum together, so maybe they picked up on that or something.

Thinking I would suddenly start TR’ing eyes would be strange though, given the apparent existence of a SK.

So I’m still baffed
The Eyes Kill might have just been an “out-there” kill to confuse everyone and avoid getting stopped by a protective.
Yeah but isn't that just outright a bad kill

Like there are neutral kills and there is killing a guy some people thought were scums alongside true Jesus so you know.

I don’t know. There’s really a ton of reasons that could explain the kill. Maybe they thought “GOOD shot” was a vig pretending to not be the vig. Maybe they wanted to frame roster.

There’s too many maybes and I’m getting a headache thinking about this.

rosterfoster · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:32 am

So the only logical way there’s an eyes kill is if there’s a traitor ig.

But of course the kill can happen illogically too.

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:32 am

In post 90, Montosh wrote:
In post 78, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 74, RedFlavor wrote:Jesus show us the mafia please.
rosterfoster
ofrhz
BodhiSmith13
Creature

In post 77, Alchemist21 wrote:I have a Townlean on Nero
GET. OFF. OF. ME. *pushes*
Trying too hard. This is scum. Luckily I'm already voting here.

Also all these people are town except Creature. He hasn't posted and is therefore confscum.

This post is kinda a trip on reread lol

rosterfoster · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:32 am

Yeah but nobody has pushed me on the Eyes kill though.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:33 am

In post 1590, nomnomnom wrote:GOD DAMN IT

VICTORY IS MINE!

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:34 am

I think I might want to just call montosh town

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:38 am

Luv explicitly defended both creature and red, is that too wolfy to be wolf?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:40 am

In post 1597, Kirari Momobami wrote:Luv explicitly defended both creature and red, is that too wolfy to be wolf?

LUV is popso’s slot who’s basically confTown in my mind now.

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:40 am

In post 1481, popsofctown wrote:That's a lie. You unvoted Creature in this game on June 19th. You didn't vote Creature in the other game until June 20th, and you didn't see his green flip until June 21st. This is postprocessed fabrication. If anything you knew Creature was scum in this game from your role PM and you mislynched him for playing to similarly to here in your other game.

VOTE: RedFlavor

Yeah with luv's iso this is either in the "not groupscum" list but probably belongs up with kk