Large Normal 221 - Endgame

[popsofctown]

you should find a new second solve NC

[ofrhz]

like its an 11:2 right now we can just poe it and win but I think Montosh is just scum and should be lynched sooner rather than later but no one seems to have any interest in him and half of you won't even talk about him so whatever we'll just lynch whomever till you guys wise up.

I think the case on Montosh is a bit scattered honestly.

I think Ofh has a better chance flipping scum right now for that reason.

Your case on me basically boils down to “I haven’t left an impression on you” to which I have already said that my sitewide activity has been low since you’ve replaced in

Like you can check my post history if you want but I feel like you should already know this?


Also what did you mean by the case on montosh is scattered? The ability of montosh pushers to summarize a case on him shouldn’t be alignment indicative for montosh at all?

[nomnomnom]

like its an 11:2 right now we can just poe it and win but I think Montosh is just scum and should be lynched sooner rather than later but no one seems to have any interest in him and half of you won't even talk about him so whatever we'll just lynch whomever till you guys wise up.

I think the case on Montosh is a bit scattered honestly.

I think Ofh has a better chance flipping scum right now for that reason.

Your case on me basically boils down to “I haven’t left an impression on you” to which I have already said that my sitewide activity has been low since you’ve replaced in

Like you can check my post history if you want but I feel like you should already know this?


Also what did you mean by the case on montosh is scattered? The ability of montosh pushers to summarize a case on him shouldn’t be alignment indicative for montosh at all?

Huuh it was just a weird way to ask for a Montosh case basically. It's a bit all over the place and I don't see the entire argument, just tidbits.

Also it's more than activity and I already addressed this point.

[Alchemist21]

Pops is basically conf not mafia for the Red push, I think the flip implies a SK is likely? Or possible a traitor. But the 2 kills N1 make sense for SK.

Nero was also kind of opposed IIRC

The 2 kills on N1 could be explained by there being a backup that took over Nikos role.

Can we take a minute to jump back and realize that the logic of this post makes no sense?

It kinda does in a dumb way.

[ofrhz]

Am I the only one who thinks there could be both an odd night vig and an even night vig?

[ofrhz]

@nom can you remind me what the other reason for scumreading me was

[Alchemist21]

Am I the only one who thinks there could be both an odd night vig and an even night vig?

No.

[Nero Cain]

you should find a new second solve NC

help me, who is the second scum?

[Nero Cain]

Am I the only one who thinks there could be both an odd night vig and an even night vig?

No.

[nomnomnom]

Ofrhz has more posts than either of us. What’s quiet about that?

She fluffposts quite a bit which skews the perception when it comes to number of posts.

A lot of posts feel empty and they don't have a lot of weight imo. That's close to silence, although not quite, but it certainly does feel that way.

I just feel no impact from her, none at all.

[Kirari Momobami]

the other is?

Otter is still toward the bottom of my PoE

[Kublai Khan]

Pops is basically conf not mafia for the Red push, I think the flip implies a SK is likely? Or possible a traitor. But the 2 kills N1 make sense for SK.

Nero was also kind of opposed IIRC

The 2 kills on N1 could be explained by there being a backup that took over Nikos role.

Can we take a minute to jump back and realize that the logic of this post makes no sense?

It kinda does in a dumb way.

How? Niko was an even-night vig.

[Kirari Momobami]

It might actually be a Kirari/Montosh team. There’s been little interaction between them and the first real instance is Kirari laughing at the early post that first got Montosh in trouble. And looking back at that whole thing with Montosh reminded me just how bad it was.

VOTE: Montosh

Sure; given a lot of my concerns with nomnom have to do with her seeming to push the vig angle, which you were also pushing at that time, do you think a second vig is likely, probable, possible, or unlikely at this point?

[Nero Cain]

the other is?

Otter is still toward the bottom of my PoE

isn't there a wagon there today? Why not join that instead of push Nom with 3 days left?

[Alchemist21]

Pops is basically conf not mafia for the Red push, I think the flip implies a SK is likely? Or possible a traitor. But the 2 kills N1 make sense for SK.

Nero was also kind of opposed IIRC

The 2 kills on N1 could be explained by there being a backup that took over Nikos role.

Can we take a minute to jump back and realize that the logic of this post makes no sense?

It kinda does in a dumb way.

How? Niko was an even-night vig.

Yeah but couldn’t a generic backup vig just become a full vig if an even-Night died? Or even have its own separate modifier?

[Kirari Momobami]

Am I the only one who thinks there could be both an odd night vig and an even night vig?

I think given the cop flip, off-night-vig and on-night-sk makes way more sense

like sk that alternates commuter to match the meme of the game?

[Kirari Momobami]

isn't there a wagon there today? Why not join that instead of push Nom with 3 days left?

That's where I've been all day, the only other person there is DV, Otter isn't spewing anything interesting and the wagon has no traction. Also VCA made me kinda more interested in the HWS slot due to day 1 wagons

[popsofctown]

DV could really flip scum. orfrz too

[Alchemist21]

It might actually be a Kirari/Montosh team. There’s been little interaction between them and the first real instance is Kirari laughing at the early post that first got Montosh in trouble. And looking back at that whole thing with Montosh reminded me just how bad it was.

VOTE: Montosh

Sure; given a lot of my concerns with nomnom have to do with her seeming to push the vig angle, which you were also pushing at that time, do you think a second vig is likely, probable, possible, or unlikely at this point?

What’s the difference between the first 3 options?

I think an odd-night vig is likely. For the record I don’t see where nomn was softing a vig claim to begin with.

[ofrhz]

Ofrhz has more posts than either of us. What’s quiet about that?

She fluffposts quite a bit which skews the perception when it comes to number of posts.

A lot of posts feel empty and they don't have a lot of weight imo. That's close to silence, although not quite, but it certainly does feel that way.

I just feel no impact from her, none at all.

Oh yeah I said I was more engaged d1 and rl became more busy d2 when you replaced in

I’m not sure how much I want to brag about pushing niko’s mislynch but I did engage him there and left an impression on Niko at least.

And come to think of it I defended my townreads on vork d2 and montosh d1

[nomnomnom]

It might actually be a Kirari/Montosh team. There’s been little interaction between them and the first real instance is Kirari laughing at the early post that first got Montosh in trouble. And looking back at that whole thing with Montosh reminded me just how bad it was.

VOTE: Montosh

Sure; given a lot of my concerns with nomnom have to do with her seeming to push the vig angle, which you were also pushing at that time, do you think a second vig is likely, probable, possible, or unlikely at this point?

I didn't push any vig for christ sake, I literally said the opposite

please just stop

[Nero Cain]

backup vig
universal backup
even night vig
serial killer

all these could explain the extra kill but it doesn't seem like an important q to me b/c there's going to be atleast 1 more groupscum and thats what we should be looking for.

I clearly think its Montosh so eh...

[Kirari Momobami]

I thought pushing the "I don't see it" analysis of the kill coming from both group scum and SK was a vig soft; in that regard, sure, I'm probably reaching, but Jesus's weird "what if there's a backup" comment from earlier made me start to consider who else was pushing the vig angle and why

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: nom

I'm voting here until he votes Montosh

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: nom

I'm voting here until he votes Montosh

alternatively you could present your Montosh case like I have requested a few times now