Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

[RCEnigma]

So book is one of a few players I feel I can confidently read and on tone she passes check 1.

367 is a town post based on how the typing and hp mechanic works out. It says to me she doesn't have a read their and would rather follow her own read than join the town consensus and policy Deb on playstyle.

I forgot the post number where she responded to me but her expanding on her thought process without me having to push further was town indicative for her as well. Like she was considering what information I was asking for and what information she thought I could use to better my read.

Was that tonal read your original basis for the townread? I ask because all the other points you made were after #312.

Ok, that's a fair point that I also have on her could be town side. I am not sure if we think here of the same though, so feel free to correct me if I misinterpret something. Do you townread the mechanic part with the "probably many vigs" going by the hp mechanic, because you think this comment comes rather from someone who rolled a town role? If so do you think so too then if you go by DEB's #218? What makes it different?
I get your second sentence, but it was my impression she seemed to be fine with "vigging" him instead even although I take it it was probably more meant as joke.

I am fine with your point of view regarding #384, it doesn't ease my bad feeling about that post though considering the assumption of town!DEB while she doesn't seem to have a (positive) read on DEB.

Yes initially it was just a tonal read. I think town is usually organic in rvs. The rest is kind of supplementing my read.

The big comment comes from town using the sample pm as a reference point. I'm considering roles in this game not as traditional roles but attacks. This would be categorized as (attack,support) which is self explanatory. She wants to sort Deb in the night instead of blowing a Lynch there which is reasonable.

And I think she's playing devil's advocate which is also reasonable for town.

[RCEnigma]

i mean, you're complaining that i don't have a problem with someone switching their post 8 obvious meme vote off of you onto another meme vote in early rvs, before you made any of the posts that i dislike. i should have a problem with him changing his vote there because ... ?

it was a meme rvs vote vote, he was engaging with the thread and other players, and his tone feels townie for that stage

I didn't day 1 alignment switch so....what?

[Gamma Emerald]

???

[Avengers]

i mean, you're complaining that i don't have a problem with someone switching their post 8 obvious meme vote off of you onto another meme vote in early rvs, before you made any of the posts that i dislike. i should have a problem with him changing his vote there because ... ?

it was a meme rvs vote vote, he was engaging with the thread and other players, and his tone feels townie for that stage

I didn't day 1 alignment switch so....what?

????

You didnt yet do the things that i found weird so why would i expect them to keep their vote on you then ... ?

I dont get what you're trying to say.

~ bw

[RCEnigma]

Because that doesn't change your read. It would still be an interaction with someone you scumread. I wouldn't only become scum when you started scumreading me...

[Oversoul]

I hope I won't regret saying this, but I think Avengers is town.

[RCEnigma]

the entrance itself was fine

pink ball vote was weird; reaction to my slot's entrance was weird (why would he think that list was all the scum? do scum usually make a meme vote listing all of their partners as their entrance? like the only time i could see scum doing that is like maybe as a traitor soft but even so .... do scum really do this? even his explanation later that he thought that this was a neighborhood is kinda weird; why would all scum be in a neighborhood together? like his whole thought process here doesn't make much sense to me)

i guess it was mostly that thought process that i didn't like

I've seen scum do this yeah, PB has as well. I don't and didn't at the time think it was all the scum but under the pretense it was a neighborhood soft the chance scum is in that grouping is higher than rand I stand by that.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Avengers]

Because that doesn't change your read. It would still be an interaction with someone you scumread. I wouldn't only become scum when you started scumreading me...

I mean, sure, it doesnt change the read but

A) it's ridiculous to expect people to scumread things that didnt happen yet. Like i'm trying to sort them based on their mind set at the time they made the post. At that point i dont think you did anything worth voting you over, so in that context, no, i dont have have a problem with the vote switch at that time given that there was no reason to vote you yet imo

B) preflips at this stage are p bad and i try not to base reads off of them

~ black widow

[Alchemist21]

vijarada's entrance (8 and so on); deb's entrance (15); my slot's interaction with fl and deb's reaction to it; and the beginnings of the oversoul/fl thing were all things that i felt like could have been prodded at or talked about or used to begin gleaning ai things

Well just so you know I don’t find everything worth posting about. In fact sometimes it’s better to let interactions play out without interference, and then other times an interaction isn’t meaningful to me until one of the slots flips.

[Alchemist21]

For example you said I should have commented on Deb’s entrance. His first three posts:

So what's up with [hated] in the VC?

that means those people have an automatic vote on them due to their role

-V

So it's a game specific thing then right?

Gotta Squirtem all

So are we just gonna outright claim what we have as our role flavor? I think this could hurt town.

These are basically noob questions that were being answered by others at the time. This was not worth my attention.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pre flip always and forever, but keep individual reads as well.

Also, i didn’t mafia much today or yesterday. Mb.

[Pink Ball]

the entrance itself was fine

pink ball vote was weird; reaction to my slot's entrance was weird (why would he think that list was all the scum? do scum usually make a meme vote listing all of their partners as their entrance? like the only time i could see scum doing that is like maybe as a traitor soft but even so .... do scum really do this? even his explanation later that he thought that this was a neighborhood is kinda weird; why would all scum be in a neighborhood together? like his whole thought process here doesn't make much sense to me)

i guess it was mostly that thought process that i didn't like

I've seen scum do this yeah, PB has as well. I don't and didn't at the time think it was all the scum but under the pretense it was a neighborhood soft the chance scum is in that grouping is higher than rand I stand by that.

Enter did it in a game where Enter, Blackjacks and me were the scumteam, so I understand RCE's concern. There are cheeky scumfucks all over the place.

By the way, Black Widow is absolutely not who I thought she was because of her reaction to my initial scumread on her. Overall I like Avengers as a whole, so we're still going for plan A, Skellen.

[mastina]

MOD:

I know I'm probably nearing prod range, but

24-48 hour V/LA due to sickness.

Vomited today, sick.

I'll post as soon as I can.

[Menalque]

Kinda think book kid and RCE are plausible scum

But my team leader disagrees on one of those so not sure

Guinea pigs are fuckin cute boi

mod, I need V/LA until the 21st probs 26th

Wdym team leader

I mean PB who is going to lead us to a glorious victory

[Menalque]

menalque can you talk to me about your book kid read ?

~ black widow

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Then in terms of the content she has posted some has seemed game advancing but other bits have seemed like just posting to keep her presence here a bit higher.

Not sure though, as I mentioned before I don’t have any strong scumreads yet.

[Alchemist21]

MOD:

I know I'm probably nearing prod range, but

24-48 hour V/LA due to sickness.

Vomited today, sick.

I'll post as soon as I can.

Get well soon!

[Skygazer]

RedFlavor has been prodded!

[Skygazer]

VC 1.12

Dr Easy Bake (4): mastina, Skellen, RCEnigma, Gamma Emerald
Chemist1422 (2): [hated], Dr Easy Bake
Oversoul (2): [hated], RedFlavor
RedFlavor (2): book kid, Chemist1422
Skellen (2): Pink Ball, Menalque
Avengers (2): Flavor Leaf, Emperor flippyNips
RCEnigma (1): [hated]
Emperor flippyNips (1): Avengers
Alchemist21 (1): love and friendship
love and friendship (1): Alchemist21
Gamma Emerald (1): Oversoul

Not Voting (1): Something_Smart

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a lynch. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-07-20 20:00:00).

[book kid]

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

[book kid]

@RCE:
Can you explain your townread on book kid? (#312)

I feel she is lacking some drive. While I really like her attempt with further engaging with Red in #193, it confuses me how she just literally went "lol ok" after Red simply said he has no interest to respond to her and leaved it at that. Also I feel a bit iffy about her being ok with a DEB wagon but on the same time sets up pre-flip associations with assuming town!DEB while she doesn't seem to townread him to begin with(?).

What am I supposed to do honestly? I could get upset and kind of almost did but whenever I get too emotionally invested in mafia it ends poorly. If he wants me to park him at the bottom of my readslist, fine by me.

I don't really see a problem with saying what a town!Deb world is like? I don't townread him but I also don't scumread him and the random chance of a player rolling scum is quite low meaning that is the most likely world to me.

[book kid]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

THIS

one

It makes sense but I don't feel like voting RF rn

ok but why not

[Menalque]

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

Jfc are you still in school? How have holidays not started yet?!?!

Softs my read a bit which was already quite weak, I’ll wait til you break up to think about it properly

[Oversoul]

I would like someone to town case Gamma for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kinda think book kid and RCE are plausible scum

But my team leader disagrees on one of those so not sure

Guinea pigs are fuckin cute boi

mod, I need V/LA until the 21st probs 26th

Wdym team leader

I mean PB who is going to lead us to a glorious victory

Um ok