Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.06

Gamma Emerald (5) -

Menalque, RedPanda, Chemist1422, EspressoPatronum, ofrhz

Chemist1422 (2) -

Pink Ball, Detective Pikachu

Menalque (1) -

Creature

EspressoPatronum (1) -

Gamma Emerald

ofrhz (1) -

Klick

Not Voting (1) -

Pine

With 11 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-07-19 09:05:00).

[EspressoPatronum]

If my gut read on Gamma is wrong then I I have rethink my gutreads and since EP is still in my scumpool, I think it's a good lynch.
If my gut read on gamma is good, Then I'm gonna trust it till I'm wrong.

I know pine and Ep are not in same team so I lynch between them depending on how pine posts.

Expand on this?
Btw I'm back to considering you town but now it's based on your logic rather than assumptions I've made

When Pine townread Ep for a post, it pinged me that It's either pine town or pine scum townreading town EP. I'm poeing EP if pine is town.

So you think I'm scum if Gamma or Pine flips town?

I'm not townreading you and I would if gamma and pine flip scum.

Got it. In that case, let's see where things go today. We can cross the bridge of addressing your scumread of me as the need arises.

[Pink Ball]

Gamma is town. Just read Cinnamon's ISO. RP, untunnel mode activate!

[EspressoPatronum]

Gamma is town. Just read Cinnamon's ISO. RP, untunnel mode activate!

Can you point me to Cinnamon's town posts? I thought his ISO was scummy.

[Klick]

I read the post in question as Gamma being demotivated because he felt he was feeling ignored.

I'm playing after 6 years so I don't know what happened to the site. But I don't know ever remember strong players shutting down even if they were being ignored. I was confident before and now I'm not so I'm willing to follow your lead if you have the guts to take responsibility after the game ends. I just need to know If you're confident gamma is town.

Not every player is the same. This is definitely within the confines of reasonable town behavior and it doesn't seem out-of-line with Gamma's personality at all.

I'm still sorting through my own reads, but I'm confident enough in Gamma-town to be uncomfortable with his lynch today.

[Gamma Emerald]

3 is the main thing I noticed, but 1 and 2 are worth looking into as well

And you're not satisfied with 1426, right?

In your opinion, what do we do on D3 if:
1. We lynch you and you're town;
2. We lynch you and you're scum;
3. We lynch Chemist and he's town;
4. We lynch Chemist and he's scum.

My thoughts:

Spoiler:

If scenario #3 or #4, there's a high likelihood that you and Mena are still up for discussion tomorrow.*

If scenario #2, Mena gets a pseudo-townclear.

If scenario #1, I'm not sure tbh. I think Mena is town either way, but I don't know how the others would interpret it.

* Unless you convince Mena that you're town. In that case, you solve the problem of #3 and #4.

I'm going to ignore 2 as fmpov it's not possible.
1: poke at Menalque but do not lynch him without serious consideration of others. Assuming a standard scumteam suze he'd be 1/3 of the scum even if he is scum, so he'd have partners.
3: I'd expect to get seriously FOSed for swaying lynch onto Chemist.
4: Take the scumflip into account and partner hunt hardcore.

Thanks for this. Fair point on #2 - I was going to exclude it, but I figured I'd put it in for the sake of being thorough. What does FOS mean btw?

Can I get a recap on what made you suspect me?

Tbh, my read on you personally was town. I had a scumread on Cinnamon before you came in.

Menalque's case against you brought me back around to my scumread on Cinnamon (/your slot).

FOS = Finger of Suspicion

Btw I think the best example of me shutting down as pressured town I can think of is Krazy's Anime Upick, I wasn't really prepared for it so I crumbled.
To add some background as scum, if I feel uncomfortable with the game climate I'll lurk out a bit. It's like the worst possible play but it's what I do.

[RedPanda]

I read the post in question as Gamma being demotivated because he felt he was feeling ignored.

I'm playing after 6 years so I don't know what happened to the site. But I don't know ever remember strong players shutting down even if they were being ignored. I was confident before and now I'm not so I'm willing to follow your lead if you have the guts to take responsibility after the game ends. I just need to know If you're confident gamma is town.

Not every player is the same. This is definitely within the confines of reasonable town behavior and it doesn't seem out-of-line with Gamma's personality at all.

I'm still sorting through my own reads, but I'm confident enough in Gamma-town to be uncomfortable with his lynch today.

I'm reading you as town and I'm not confident in my skills like 6 years back(This is my second game after 6, my play in the first was average) which is why I'm considering this. I'll read a few games of yours before I sheep you.

[RedPanda]

My vote will still be on though. I want to see if anyone has the guts to hammer.

[Gamma Emerald]

My vote will still be on though. I want to see if anyone has the guts to hammer.

*leers*

[RedPanda]

My vote will still be on though. I want to see if anyone has the guts to hammer.

*leers*

[Gamma Emerald]

If someone

does

hammer look at RP the same way you look at the hammer

[Klick]

I'll save you some time, RP - I don't play often at all, especially not lately. This is my first serious Mafia game in a long time and I feel as though I have a completely different approach to the game than I did ages ago. And I've never been considered a particularly good player. If you're looking to sheep me due to some sort of prestige that's not what you're going to find.

But I'm town, and I feel pretty good about Gamma-town based on the last few pages. Take it or leave it.

[Klick]

EP are you here?

[RedPanda]

I'll save you some time, RP - I don't play often at all, especially not lately. This is my first serious Mafia game in a long time and I feel as though I have a completely different approach to the game than I did ages ago. And I've never been considered a particularly good player. If you're looking to sheep me due to some sort of prestige that's not what you're going to find.

But I'm town, and I feel pretty good about Gamma-town based on the last few pages. Take it or leave it.

I just wanted to see how you townread people.

[Klick]

Fair.

[RedPanda]

If someone

does

hammer look at RP the same way you look at the hammer

hmm why did you say this btw?

[Gamma Emerald]

If someone

does

hammer look at RP the same way you look at the hammer

hmm why did you say this btw?

Because if you're going to leave your vote on me like that you're complicit in the hammer. It's not me saying to take you out for it, I'm saying to use the same level of scrutiny if they decide to get leery with the hammerer.

[EspressoPatronum]

EP are you here?

Yes

[Klick]

What, specifically, did you like about Menalque's case on Gamma?

[Klick]

In other words, why do you currently think Gamma is scum?

[EspressoPatronum]

What, specifically, did you like about Menalque's case on Gamma?

One sec. I'll go through it, clip what I liked, and send it your way.

[RedPanda]

Gamma I really would have unvoted if you said I was keeping my vote on and signalling to a scumbuddy to hammer before the wagon dispersed. cause that's the first thing I thought that you were thinking when you said it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I really would have unvoted if you said I was keeping my vote on and signalling to a scumbuddy to hammer before the wagon dispersed. cause that's the first thing I thought that you were thinking when you said it.

I mean that's possible but I don't think that's the case

[Klick]

Gamma I really would have unvoted if you said I was keeping my vote on and signalling to a scumbuddy to hammer before the wagon dispersed. cause that's the first thing I thought that you were thinking when you said it.

Wouldn't that be inconsistent with his recently-developed townread on you though?

[RedPanda]

Gamma I really would have unvoted if you said I was keeping my vote on and signalling to a scumbuddy to hammer before the wagon dispersed. cause that's the first thing I thought that you were thinking when you said it.

Wouldn't that be inconsistent with his recently-developed townread on you though?

But sometimes you get pinged right when somebody makes a move. I thought my move was obvious in the fact that it doesn't relieve pressure and it also protects him from hammer.