The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

[mastina]

im pretty sure mastina just thinks scum gave her hers because of mbos mechanics but then again yeah it would be weird of her to assume it's from different people

The timing of the roles is different + having two in the same day = the roles originate from different sources.

11:30's happened at the end of the day; mine both happened in the middle of the day; my second one (which was formatted identically to the first one and timed similarly to the first one which is why I suspect the same source caused both my role changes) happened the same day that 11:30's happened, sooooo. Seems pretty definitive that they're not from the same source.

Mine probably come from the same source, but 11:30's comes from a different source than mine.

[mastina]

the first game i was explicitly told that scum (mastina!) gave me the role
i'm p sure that happened in the 2nd too
i don't remember 3rd and 4th offhand
we were not told the source here

It happened in the fourth, too, but can confirm; schadd_ did not tell me the source of my powers. Just that I became {role}, and then that in addition to {role}, I now had the power of {second role}.

[mastina]

mastina do you really think creature is not playing to his scum meta here
like... he's been online in the past 2 days and isnt posting here
he willingly replaced into the game and has done absolutely nothing? surely?

Oh he's scum here pretty definitively, yeah.

[mastina]

fine
VOTE: creature
i would like to reiterate for the record that i do not believe that wh4t is town

We can visit that tomorrow. Creature today, we figure out which of {Rhinox, Wh4t, pisskop} we want lynched tomorrow.

[Old Dogs]

fine
VOTE: creature
i would like to reiterate for the record that i do not believe that wh4t is town

We can visit that tomorrow. Creature today, we figure out which of {Rhinox, Wh4t, pisskop} we want lynched tomorrow.

i mean obviously my pick rn is pisskop, i think rhinox's look at the votecounts from today was worthy of saying he goes before piss and i still think this is town wh4t and am a bit *more* confident than the time i was wrong on her but not confident enough to locktown her

i think we're basically on the same page in that it's either all 3 in there or 2 and 1130 is the third. i think ank's posting today is fairly townie? but i dont know her that well. voted i think consensus townreads are correct in this gamestate so im not touching that

i guess i would say piss < wh4t < rhinox after creature would be my order. like i personally think 1130 is the third is the more probable situation but am 100% willing to admit i could be wrong here

[Wh4t]

Man you people are dumb.

[Wh4t]

Old dogs your half ass defence looks worse than people scum reading lurkers.

[Wh4t]

Pisskop probably 3p. I agree it's unlikely town.

[Wh4t]

Rhinox should not be the lynch and hasn't creatures meta changed? If he is scum he has a shitty team since he's frozen.
11.30 still needs to die.

[Wh4t]

Yeah Creature is too confrontational to be scum.

[Wh4t]

fine
VOTE: creature
i would like to reiterate for the record that i do not believe that wh4t is town

We can visit that tomorrow. Creature today, we figure out which of {Rhinox, Wh4t, pisskop} we want lynched tomorrow.

At least one of you two potato heads is scum if my creature read is correct.

[Old Dogs]

and hasn't creatures meta changed?

yes, in the sense he no longer lurks out as scum 90% of the time, now it's more like 30%

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literally pulled the same shit this game as he is here, he's actively avoiding the game despite willingly replacing into it.

Yeah Creature is too confrontational to be scum.

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[Old Dogs]

Pisskop probably 3p. I agree it's unlikely town.

hhhhh???????? wh

hes been in the game the whole time, why would he not out when that's demonstrated the correct play D1 because we're not considering toog at all anymore after their claim

if he's not town he's groupscum

[Wh4t]

d1: vorkuta is a vanilla townien1: The Three Musketeers is a vanilla townied2: Chickadee is a vanilla townien2: insomnia is a vanilla townie

Look at these effing lynchbait lunches, and now creature or me or pisskop? Lmfao town.

[Old Dogs]

okay but the difference is im picking the lynch and there's an actual tangle reason besides the cfd that was d1 and insomnia's pet read d2

[Old Dogs]

tangible*

[Wh4t]

Are you surprised he's avoiding it? Seems like scum are leading lunches here.

Explain dogs. I have no idea what's going on so I need some elaboration.

[Old Dogs]

and 1130 is a mechanically bad lynch today because given the mbos we should probably be testing her claim even if she's scum

Are you surprised he's avoiding it? Seems like scum are leading lunches here.

Explain dogs. I have no idea what's going on so I need some elaboration.

flips show that town are leading lynches and survivors are following, at best 1-2 groupscum too

d1 chickadee wagon is 3/4 flipped town, voted is a consensus townread and was the last on the wagon.

the only people that are on both wagons were {1130/my slot/yay}, and i think there is absolutely no case to say that the interactions here are tvsvs or svsvs. thus we should be looking off wagon even if 1130 is scum (which is extremely likely if i am right and you're town)

creature, if he's avoiding the game as town because he doesnt want to play in it (??? why replace in and do nothing ???), will be self evident once he gets prodded. creature is objectively one of the easiest players to read if you actually are looking for the nuance in his posts.

[Wh4t]

Oh ffs what did they claim?

[Wh4t]

Sorry but wagonomics say that's incorrect. No real counters say scumheavy. I'll VCA later have to get ready for work but yeah no. On wagon.

[Old Dogs]

like 1130/old dogs is a batshit read

1130/yay is even worse

yay/old dogs i guess is plausible but i know it's not the case

Oh ffs what did they claim?

that they received something due to mbos mechanics, just like mastina did and yay and i have verified (we have been loud fruit vendor'd by her despite her claiming VT at the start of the game). they apparently need to be targeted by something, so the logical thing to do here is have mastina do it and she has verified she will

1130, as much scum equity as they have, is not the lynch today

Sorry but wagonomics say that's incorrect. No real counters say scumheavy. I'll VCA later have to get ready for work but yeah no. On wagon.

insomnia was nightkilled and flipped town
zeebu and toog are obviously trueclaiming 3p (well, zeebu is fakeclaiming, but ras claimed)
i know i'm town
yay is not scum with 1130

so really the only real options here are yay and 1130 if you want on wagon, both are unviable lynches and the former is unlikely to hit scum

i think it's different because there's 2 or more 3p who are just going to vote the big wagon to survive...

[Old Dogs]

like whatever happened to "on wagon kill = off wagon scum"

[Old Dogs]

Vorkuta

(8): ElevenThirty, YAYVIDEOGAMES, Old Dogs,

Toogeloo

,

Chickadee

, pisskop,

zeebu

, Rhinox

Chickadee

(4):

The Three Musketeers

,

insomnia

,

Vorkuta

, Voted
Voted (1): ZZZX

The Three Musketeers

(1): Wh4t

not voting (1): mastina

Chickadee

(7): Old Dogs,

insomnia

, Voted,

Toogeloo

, ElevenThirty,

zeebu

, YAYVIDEOGAMES
Rhinox (1): pisskop
YAYVIDEOGAMES (1): Wh4t

not voting (4): mastina, Chickadee, Rhinox, Creature

like this doesnt particularly persuade me that chickadee is a scum driven wagon considering the d1 composition

[Old Dogs]

given the choice when having the knowledge that they dont need to be voting on mislynches, scum are going to *want* to be off wagon

[Old Dogs]

i feel like chickadee flipping town here should have been sufficient evidence that "common-sense vca" isnt really going to help here considering that's why titus voted her for our slot