Large Normal 221 - Endgame

[nomnomnom]

I am an opiniated person and I push what I believe and that's verifiable in my towngames, and my frustration often comes from people not listening to me and misrepresenting my arguments.

Also you're implying I push obvtown right now which is a weird implication to make.

[nomnomnom]

Also Alch didn't think I was a traitor, you are full of shit about that. Stop lying.

Also what did you mean by the case on montosh is scattered? The ability of montosh pushers to summarize a case on him shouldn’t be alignment indicative for montosh at all?

to be clear you still stand by the montosh read, right?

No, I don’t townread him anymore, and I’ve been struggling to find a strong second scumread today

Montosh’s d2 play is basically iioa

And him sheeping his townreads onto me without really engaging his townreads is ??? Especially when half of his townreads scumread him

I’d vote there but I’m kind of confused as to why people don’t scumread nom atm

To reiterate, my one line scumcase on nom is that I think her RF scumlean looks like distancing and she didn’t vote there until pops started aggressively pushing RF

anyways putting my money where my mouth is but prob gonna push Nom tomorrow (kinda listening to pops)

VOTE: montosh

Did either of you see my reasoning for thinking HWS slot is Town?

[nomnomnom]

If KK isn't lying I think Kirari has a chance of being traitor for trying to discredit me with "You are a traitor!!!", invoking false arguments to try and discredit my slot further with surface analysis and not even voting me when she thinks I am scum, which makes me think that otter may be lynchbait.

[nomnomnom]

Could also why you opened the game with an invitation for scum to shoot you. Signal to homebase etc

[Kirari Momobami]

man chances game ends with otter lynch aren't bad but nom is so obviously scum it's really distracting.

How vig shot roster over nom just confounds me

I might sometimes be wrong on otter but I am never wrong on nom here

Do we lynch the traitor today or do we try to hit the last groupscum at risk of being wrong?

I'm increasingly tempted to just lynch nom here though

VOTE: nom

Let's all join hands, sing kumbaya, and lynch this slot

[nomnomnom]

rofl

[Kublai Khan]

I can dig that. nomnomnom has been the one pushing the idea of SK the hardest, which makes sense if he's the traitor.

But right now, Vorkuta is hella lurking. More votes should be on Vorkuta.

[nomnomnom]

I can dig that. nomnomnom has been the one pushing the idea of SK the hardest, which makes sense if he's the traitor.

Up until you came in with your explanation everyone was on board with the idea that this game had a SK.
That argument is disingenuous.

[Jesus Louisus]

I can dig that. nomnomnom has been the one pushing the idea of SK the hardest, which makes sense if he's the traitor.

Up until you came in with your explanation everyone was on board with the idea that this game had a SK.
That argument is disingenuous.

I wasn't on board with SK.

[nomnomnom]

I can dig that. nomnomnom has been the one pushing the idea of SK the hardest, which makes sense if he's the traitor.

Up until you came in with your explanation everyone was on board with the idea that this game had a SK.
That argument is disingenuous.

I wasn't on board with SK.

I think you were the exception rather than the norm.

[Not Known 15]

Vorkuta has been prodded.

[popsofctown]

lynching scum instead of traitor is better, if you lynch traitor scum get to keep NKing

[Kirari Momobami]

I don't disagree. You think otter ends the game? To be honest I am much less confident on otter last scum than I am on nom traitor. If you're 75% + then we can just do otter today, but if we're in the 55-60% range I think we should do nom first so it's clear how many mislynches we have to find last groupscum.

[nomnomnom]

I don't disagree. You think otter ends the game? To be honest I am much less confident on otter last scum than I am on nom traitor. If you're 75% + then we can just do otter today, but if we're in the 55-60% range I think we should do nom first so it's clear how many mislynches we have to find last groupscum.

It's kinda odd on you started going on this train of thought ever since i called you out on your logic and you're starting to have moonlogic over who you should vote.

I'm starting to think that if there's a traitor this game you're the slot for it.

[Vorkuta]

Yeah sorry about that- I'm perpetually catching up

2 cents- traitors get the factional kill ability if core!scum get wiped out depending on the ruleset

[Kirari Momobami]

Not in normals, vork, but thanks for townslipping

[nomnomnom]

lynching scum instead of traitor is better, if you lynch traitor scum get to keep NKing

Or you know, the game would just end

can people really not read a wiki page

[popsofctown]

I don't understand why we would lynch an unrecruitable traitor if the mod posted their identity publically.
The way normal game traitor has been explained to me it doesn't affect the town wincon to remove them from the game

[popsofctown]

we could have to keep going until we lynch a survivor? Wait you're gonna tell me, survivors aren't normal, and that's in the wiki.


idk wikis are scary sometimes you feel like you should be contributing and that's icky

[nomnomnom]

Traitors can have additional abilities which is something to factor in (like they mention traitors being bulletproof are pretty common on the wiki if you don't want them to die to scum, I'd imagine roleblocking traitors are a thing) but yeah it's straight up better to hunt for groupscum.

[nomnomnom]

We're still not sure whether or not we have a traitor or if KK is screwing around anyway so the only thing we can do is hunt for groupscum anyway without screwing ourselves over anyway.

How Kirari is handling this is scummy as hell.

[Vorkuta]

Idk I bought Kirai's opening post gambit and have been viewing that slot through rose-tinted glasses ever since, so anything coming from them seems reasonable

[Kirari Momobami]

Well it lynches a non town so that tprs have an extra night to work with a little more info and gets us back to the vig cycle again. Obviously ending the game is better if we are sure on the last group scum.

There's also the simple fact that I could be wrong on power and that nom simply is groupscum not traitor. alch made some arguments against this that were fairly decent but it's not totally certain that creature wouldn't bus like that to a same-pt buddy, just rather unlikely

[nomnomnom]

There's also the simple fact that I could be wrong on power and that nom simply is groupscum not traitor. alch made some arguments against this that were fairly decent but it's not totally certain that creature wouldn't bus like that to a same-pt buddy, just rather unlikely

Alch thought I was town.

[nomnomnom]

You can stop being bad and lying about stuff anytime and lynch scum.