Micro 880: A Normal Game - Game Over!

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #23

Oversoul (0) -
OkaPoka (2) - skitter30 (191), TemporalLich (425)
Dunnstral (0) -

Kop (3) (L-2) - Firebringer (992), Oversoul (1028), callforjudgement (1051)

skitter30 (2) - Dunnstral (587), Kop (860)
Firebringer (0) -
TemporalLich (1) - Sleepless Assassin (158)
Not Voting (1) - OkaPoka (1056)

Lynch Threshold

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

This phase will end on July 13, 2019 9:30:00 PM EDT (GMT-4) or in (expired on 2019-07-13 21:30:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2. If you see any errors in the votecount, please let me know.
3. Firebringer is V/LA indefinitely.
4. The moderator is V/LA from Wednesday, July 17 to Sunday, July 21. Please forward any questions to Skygazer during that time.
5. skitter30 is V/LA until Sunday, July 14.
6. No deadline extensions will be granted, so please do not ask.

Voting History Key: * = Hammer, + = L-1 vote.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

the worst (5): skitter30 (90) --> (Null) (168) --> OkaPoka (169) --> (Null) (253) --> SweetNSassy (340)
Oversoul: OkaPoka (404) --> Dunnstral (673) --> Kop (1028)
callforjudgement: Firebringer (94) --> OkaPoka (157) --> the worst (222) --> OkaPoka (417) --> Kop (644) --> OkaPoka (1023) --> Kop (1051+)
OkaPoka: SweetNSassy (85) --> Dunnstral (105) --> TemporalLich (164) --> Kop (908) --> TemporalLich (963) --> Kop (993) --> Oversoul (998) --> TemporalLich (1004) --> Kop (1029) --> (Null) (1056)
Dunnstral: SweetNSassy (300) --> the worst (397) --> skitter30 (587)
SweetNSassy (0):
Kop: skitter30 (860)
Sleepless Assassin: TemporalLich (93) --> Dunnstral (108) --> TemporalLich (158)
skitter30: OkaPoka (191+)
Firebringer: Dunnstral (91) --> skitter30 (111) --> Dunnstral (138+) --> skitter30 (279) --> TemporalLich (687) --> skitter30 (979) --> Kop (992)
TemporalLich: OkaPoka (87) --> Dunnstral (109+) --> OkaPoka (167) --> Firebringer (285) --> OkaPoka (425+)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Dawn (Pregame; reference purposes only)

Sleepless Assassin: callforjudgement (14)

[Kop]

I dont self vote. Lynching me what does they achieve info wise

[OkaPoka]

Are you going to be here until deadline?

[Kop]

I'll be around.

[OkaPoka]

Willing to move your vote to Lich for now?

[callforjudgement]

I'm also bewildered as to what Kop's planning to claim. He's softclaimed "confirmable role, not forced to a specific alignment, not Fruit Vendor or Neighbourizer". The only possibilities seem to be Mailman, Neighbour (in which case someone else can claim it), or something with the Loud or Announcing modifier.

PEDIT: OK, it's Mailman. That isn't a role strong enough to be worth saving, and is probably more useful in scum hands than town hands.

If it is in town hands, it gives us a lot of information about the setup: specifically, with most moderators, it'd be highly likely that town has (other than the Mailman) one strong or two weak power roles, probably without much to counter them on the scum side. I'd be imagining the setup to be something like a newbie setup with the Mailman role added to make the setup a bit less vanilla, and as an attempt at a balance tweak.

The claim is unlikely to be false, but may be scum claiming an alignment-flipped version of their role.

[callforjudgement]

I dont self vote. Lynching me what does they achieve info wise

It's slightly about info, but mostly about avoiding any risk that you get mislynched on a

future

day and lose town an additional day.

We have an odd number of players alive. There probably isn't a Vigilante in a 9p game, and a save from the scum nightkill is possible but unlikely. So if we no-lynch, then eventually we'll be no-lynching again at mylo, meaning scum can kill anyone that they like. It's much better to let town direct the kill, removing a scummy-looking slot from the lynchpool.

[OkaPoka]

Lich when you show up are you willing to claim?

[Firebringer]

oka why you asking for a claim when ur the only possibility for counter at this point?

[callforjudgement]

OkaPoka isn't the

only

possible counterwagon, skitter is also possible. Lich isn't a possible counterwagon though.

[OkaPoka]

Well if Kop moves maybe we can get three on lich to lynch lich

[Firebringer]

CFJ says he won't. That would be u, me, kop. We don't have the hammer vote.

[OkaPoka]

He wouldn't move to avoid a NL?

[Firebringer]

Id rather Lich than Kop. I don't really feel one way or another on Kop here.

[Firebringer]

He wouldn't move to avoid a NL?

Probably? Idk.

[callforjudgement]

I'd move to basically anyone to avoid a no-lynch.

I'm not sure why Kop would force the lynch of Lich over Skitter, though.

[OkaPoka]

I have a theory but I need some data.

[callforjudgement]

I guess I'd be willing to let Firebringer make that decision if Firebringer feels strongly that a particular player should be lynched, though.

[Firebringer]

Don't let me pick, I have been mentally checked out for last dozen or so pages.

[OkaPoka]

Kop not moving is noted.

[Firebringer]

Probably means Kop is town.

[OkaPoka]

Unless the pairing is exactly Kop/Lich

[Firebringer]

Or that.

[callforjudgement]

People in general seem much more passionate about lynching Lich than Skitter, so I guess if I had to pick I'd pick Lich, not so much because I think there's much chance of a scumflip, but because it's likely to lead to the players being less distracted/split on future days.

[OkaPoka]

My request:

If you are Kop, please vote Lich.

If you are not Kop, please vote Kop for now.