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Post #75 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
I haven't played a single game where every slot has actually tried.
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Post #76 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
Pls no plurality lynch
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Post #77 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
Putting the "legendary" players to all play together tend to be scumsided though. Probably needs a mix of them and more casual players.
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Post #78 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:29 am
Kaivernan has a "majority to end day early, 1/4 plurality to lynch at deadline rule" that I think is very good.
But it also allows people to no effort
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Post #79 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:30 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:30 am
If good lists are scumsided it is what it is
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Post #80 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:30 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:30 am
I'd rather have everyone try and it be scumsided than get a free win because scum/town weren't trying
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Post #81 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:31 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:31 am
The reason town does so bad in white flag btw is because you need a D1 solve and for most players that's really really situational
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Post #82 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:32 am
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by Oversoul » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:32 am
To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players
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Post #83 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 am
In post 77 , Creature wrote:
Putting the "legendary" players to all play together tend to be scumsided though. Probably needs a mix of them and more casual players.
Would say the exact opposite.
Most legendary players are notorious for town not scum.
There's insanely few players who are really good at both alignments.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post #84 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 am
In post 82 , Oversoul wrote:
To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players
Not necessarily hardcore vs casual
You need townies who aren't going to individually try to carry the game.
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Post #85 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:34 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:34 am
In post 81 , chennisden wrote: The reason town does so bad in white flag btw is because you need a D1 solve and for most players that's really really situational
Yeh, high heels could be a factor too
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Post #86 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
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by Ramcius » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
In post 74 , Creature wrote: In post 60 , Creature wrote: Why can't we make blitz games more popular?
Let's stop that geriatric I-can-only-play-once-every-14-days bullshit.
I think the problem is that we need plurality lynch.
We need more day vigs in setups
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Post #87 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
In post 82 , Oversoul wrote:
To be honest, those tend to not be very fun games and tensions run high. Look at any scummies invitational.
You do need a mix of hardcore and casual players
I'm not talking about every slot tryharding and making wallposts on every other player.
I'm just talking about not lurking out the game while TECHNICALLY fulfilling activity requirements up to the point that you literally don't defend yourself at all during LyLo.
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Post #88 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 am
In post 86 , Ramcius wrote: In post 74 , Creature wrote: In post 60 , Creature wrote: Why can't we make blitz games more popular?
Let's stop that geriatric I-can-only-play-once-every-14-days bullshit.
I think the problem is that we need plurality lynch.
We need more day vigs in setups
Add ITAs for them
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Post #89 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:38 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:38 am
No.
We just need certain players to stop no efforting
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Post #90 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:39 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:39 am
What about instead of one content post every two days or prod we make it atleast X content posts per day phase or force replace?
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Post #91 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:40 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:40 am
If someone's garbage to like post enough only to avoid getting three prods, then they don't deserve to play.
I'd make it 20 content posts per day phase or force-replace (decreasing it as days go on though).
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Post #92 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:44 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:44 am
Exactly
The "no asking for someone else to replace out/be replaced out" rule is stupid because it doesn't make exceptions like these.
I don't get why people sign up to play games and DON'T PLAY THEM and DON'T REPLACE OUT
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Post #93 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:47 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:47 am
Except for newbie games. That's part of why I still sign up for them
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Post #94 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 am
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by Creature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 am
One ruleset change I'm implementing on my future games is that, instead of prods, it will be like this:
The dayphase will be split into two. In Y days you need to hit a X minimum content posts requirement or I'll start searching for your replacement until you fit that criteria. In like 2Y days (usually day end) you need to hit a 2X minimum content posts or I'll force replace you no exceptions.
V/LAs won't affect this at all.
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Post #95 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:53 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:53 am
Actually I swear at some point they made an exception for activity
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Post #96 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:01 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:01 am
Maybe I was wrong.
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Post #97 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:05 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:05 am
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Post #98 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:06 am
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by RadiantCowbells » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:06 am
it is detrimental to the game's atmosphere to demand others replace out, particularly if it's not on the basis of activity but rather player expectations of how a player should play the game
It does leave some leeway around for inactivity though
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Post #99 (ISO ) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:07 am
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by chennisden » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:07 am
I think it's easy to tell who exactly is lurking the hell out of the game.
So I'll just add an addendum to my rules: "If I feel that you have made minimal meaningful contributions to the game and/or are only passing the activity requirements by technicality rather than in spirit, I may force replace you at my discretion without warning."
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