Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 1.4

Phillammon (3):

Sakura Hara, James Brafin, Chemist1422

James Brafin (2):

Doctor Drew, Persivul

Gamma Emerald (1):

Jackal711

Persivul (1):

Arcfield

Chemist1422 (1):

implosion

implosion (1):

Dry-fit

Sakura Hara (0):

Jackal711 (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

Skellen (0):

Thespio (0):

Arcfield (0):

Dry-fit (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting (4):

Skellen, Thespio, Gamma Emerald, Phillammon
With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-07-31 21:10:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

:
- Remember: Flavor is just flavor. Don't use it to make arguments.
- Please let me know if you want vote-counts to be less frequent. I am trying to post one per page if votes change, and I'm around.
- Phone0Ix has not confirmed yet, and has (expired on 2019-07-19 09:05:00) before I will start seeking replacement.
- Arcfield is V/LA until July 19th, 2019.
- Jackal711 is V/LA until July 26th, 2019.

[Chemist1422]

Chemist, I'll be honest with you, when I said that I had totally misread the setup and thought that 7 Ts was the only one with a serial killer. That said, fair.

Then why did you not say "we don't have an SK"?

[Chemist1422]

Is this serious?
Because that’s a lousy excuse for a vote if I’ve ever seen one.

It's not like I can't change it if something stronger comes up

[Phillammon]

I wasn't certain (see again "unclear on the setup"). Though once again, fair point.

[Sakura Hana]

So on the last page Phil comes off as very town. E.g., 62-64 is a good reaction.

I'd like some explanation on that, it gave me the opposite impression (i.e. he looked for the easiest thing to latch on to (the person going against the regular flow of mafia))

James comes off more strongly as giving off his personality than giving anything useful for reading him, which is a bit annoying. James is spending paragraphs talking about how RVS is inferior, which is basically spending paragraphs talking about nothing. Post 72 is such an absurd way to use logic. It's just not useful. It's like he's framing it as a formal logical argument to show he can, and then the flaw that he points out in the way that he's formalizing it isn't even the actual flaw in the argument, it's just a premise that he disagrees with (the actual flaw being that the argument all A are B, C is not A, therefore C is not B being invalid).

I cant even understand this paragraph.
I thought the point was that his "lack of RVS" has gotten us out of RVS.

and is apparently the only person who actually read the mod's posts, which is always a plus.

Uh what.
That's like NAI?
If anything i'd think scum are more likely to not miss information in thread, and that's even stretching it.

Well... that was everything worth replying to, I only made inference to imposion's points on Phil and James because i hadnt ever explained those reads.

[Sakura Hana]

reference, not inference
English is hard.

[Phillammon]

I apologise, the in 101 should have been explicit rather than implied. Yes, it's not being used as an indicator, mostly just ribbing implosion and gamma for missing the IC reveal.

[Arcfield]

@mod V/LA got cut short so im back

Noted.
-Kor

[implosion]

So on the last page Phil comes off as very town. E.g., 62-64 is a good reaction.

I'd like some explanation on that, it gave me the opposite impression (i.e. he looked for the easiest thing to latch on to (the person going against the regular flow of mafia))

Less about content, more about tone/timing/looking like a genuine interaction with the thread. Though I can see what you're saying but he's town in various places not just those posts

James comes off more strongly as giving off his personality than giving anything useful for reading him, which is a bit annoying. James is spending paragraphs talking about how RVS is inferior, which is basically spending paragraphs talking about nothing. Post 72 is such an absurd way to use logic. It's just not useful. It's like he's framing it as a formal logical argument to show he can, and then the flaw that he points out in the way that he's formalizing it isn't even the actual flaw in the argument, it's just a premise that he disagrees with (the actual flaw being that the argument all A are B, C is not A, therefore C is not B being invalid).

I cant even understand this paragraph.
I thought the point was that his "lack of RVS" has gotten us out of RVS.

The point I'm making is that talking about how to get out of RVS is a really pointless conversation and having this strong notion that we are in RVS and need to get out of it as fast as possible is silly because every post has some amount of readable information at every point in the game, etc.

The other point is that he's misusing the concept of logic.

[Doctor Drew]

Had a busy day today, will be back tomorrow afternoon with some actual substance.

I will say, I missed the IC reveal as well.....heh.

[James Brafin]

Chemist is pinging me. So is Pers, who doesn't seem toe really be adding anything to the gamestate
Implosion strikes me as town-ish, in a "using other's content bot not generating a lot of my own" kinda way. But he's been super active and building off several other players, which I expect from town, not scum.
Jackal I can't sort yet. Not enough info.
Korina and The Worst are both obviously scum.
Arch is... odd. I'd like to see vote reasoning here, but I can't say he's super scummy without it. VERY slight scumread,
Dr. doesn't have enough, but Dry-fit has me concerned. He feels like he's coasting, which I don't feel like is a town thing.
Gamma is fluff-posting, which I find scummy as frick. Speaking of, yes, I prefer RQS.
Phil is maybe town, considering his posts, and Sakura as well. I feel like as scum they both would have pushed harder against me for my bad reasoning, but they didn't try to build that case and that strikes me as townish.

[Gamma Emerald]

James you know me, you should know fluff posting is NAI for me.
Also what about Chemist pings you?

[James Brafin]

Quickly typed everything up into my spreadsheet, and i need answers or official abstinence from the question posed in #35 from the following:
Phone0Ix
Gamma Emerald
Arcfield
Chemist1422
Jackal711

FI you answered and I missed it, please quote said post. Have a nice day.

[James Brafin]

Is this serious?
Because that’s a lousy excuse for a vote if I’ve ever seen one.

It's not like I can't change it if something stronger comes up

That seems very passive-aggressive and drift-y to me, like he doesn't give a flip. I don't like that.
Also, I haven't played with you in years. Can I get a confirmation of this, or do I need to meta dive?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
I would honestly like to go live in the Portland, Oregon area, and that's based on personal experience. The weather is excellent, not super hot like South Carolina/Georgia/Florida, but also not too cold in winter, with very little snow. Plus Portland is a fabulous city. Did you know there's a bookstore there that takes up an entire city block?
/rant

[Korina]

Seeking replacement for Phone0Ix, who didn't pick up their role-card. If I do not hear from a replacement within 24hrs, I will pause deadline at 11d, 12hrs until one is found.

[Korina]

Thespio replaces Phone0Ix, effective immediately. Deadline continues as normal.

[Thespio]

Hello

[Phillammon]

Hey. Are you mafia?

[Thespio]

Hey. Are you mafia?

Im actually Jesus.

[James Brafin]

Hello, Thespio. Please see post #35.

[Thespio]

Hey everyone, I’m James Brafin.
Some things to know:
I policy vote/lynch toxicity. Period. I don’t want it in my game. It’s no fun for anyone.
I don’t like RVS. I’ve heard it said that it builds information, but how can you build information on no foundation? So I’m abstaining my vote. When I put it up you can assume your RVS is over.
I’m also doing a touch of research to improve my preliminary reads, so if I ask a weird question just play along.

Speaking of weird questions, I’d appreciate it if everyone would answer this:
If you could live anywhere, where would it be and why?
For me, it’s somewhere in the north, where you get decent snow. Nebraska, maybe?
Thanks,
JB

Im against your policy lynch, as It discourages genuine clash. If someone comes across poorly you try to kill them... which is toxic in and of its self.

but I would live anywhere but Nebraska, as I live there now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grass is always greener eh

[James Brafin]

Hey everyone, I’m James Brafin.
Some things to know:
I policy vote/lynch toxicity. Period. I don’t want it in my game. It’s no fun for anyone.
I don’t like RVS. I’ve heard it said that it builds information, but how can you build information on no foundation? So I’m abstaining my vote. When I put it up you can assume your RVS is over.
I’m also doing a touch of research to improve my preliminary reads, so if I ask a weird question just play along.

Speaking of weird questions, I’d appreciate it if everyone would answer this:
If you could live anywhere, where would it be and why?
For me, it’s somewhere in the north, where you get decent snow. Nebraska, maybe?
Thanks,
JB

Im against your policy lynch, as It discourages genuine clash. If someone comes across poorly you try to kill them... which is toxic in and of its self.
but I would live anywhere but Nebraska, as I live there now.

There is a difference between conflict and being an ass. I’m making it clear the latter is not something I tolerate.

[Thespio]

meh, I like being an ass to get people to slip up, but because you are a fan of Nebraska ill do my best not be too much of an ass