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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:22 pm

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I don't think it matters whether Boon is scum or town ngl
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:23 pm

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If he's town, my best explanation for his play is that he's going completely nuts on the anti-town bullshit in order to back up his scumgame meta
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:23 pm

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This was advertised as a flipless game, no?
Why did you come into it expecting a way to determine flips?
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:23 pm

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Ost's statement could not have been more obviously about Boon LOL

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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pm

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In post 1827, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:This was advertised as a flipless game, no?
Why did you come into it expecting a way to determine flips?
Because it's fairly common to have roles like that in flipless games?

Flipless doesn't mean "never learn alignment" and right now there is no way for town to ever learn alignment directly.

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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:25 pm

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@jjh927, I do not understand why you are continuing to talk about Boon.
Do you have anything you would like to speak to AA about? I would love to read it. :)
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:30 pm

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In post 1829, Arkham Asylum wrote:
In post 1827, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:This was advertised as a flipless game, no?
Why did you come into it expecting a way to determine flips?
Because it's fairly common to have roles like that in flipless games?

Flipless doesn't mean "never learn alignment" and right now there is no way for town to ever learn alignment directly.

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Could you please point me in the direction of where you have seen flipless games before? This will be my first, formally, but I did not have that expectation of them.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:30 pm

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If you want to look at interactions between me and AA there were plenty a while back
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:31 pm

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I was talking about Boon because we got on the topic and the guy drives me mad
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:33 pm

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In post 1831, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:Could you please point me in the direction of where you have seen flipless games before? This will be my first, formally, but I did not have that expectation of them.
This site does them infrequently so I mostly was drawing from experiences off-site, which cannot be linked because either protected community or chat mafia sites. But generally, flipless setups, off-site, usually have a role that lets you learn alignment. I think Pine maybe speculated about this at one point too.

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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:35 pm

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In post 1832, jjh927 wrote:If you want to look at interactions between me and AA there were plenty a while back
Would you rather not interact with AA right now?
What are you doing to solve this game, at the moment? What is your angle?
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:36 pm

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In post 1808, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:I have a message from the dead. I am waiting for out host's clarification on something.
In post 1813, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:Boon has role-related information.
Unsure whether to trust yet. Will determine before outing.
He asked me to pass on the message.
More to follow.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:39 pm

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Yeah that sounds about right.

Given boon's track record as town that should confirm Pine for scum.

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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:42 pm

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"omg kat would never diss me like that

my reads are the greatest my play is always flawless

p.s. I'm masons with Creature"

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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 1837, Arkham Asylum wrote:Given boon's track record as town that should confirm Pine for scum.
FL is town?
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:50 pm

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Probably, given how stupidly easy the wagon on him was

But he can stay in his corner since he's still being a naughty boy

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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:52 pm

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Do you think that the Dr Easy Bake lynch was difficult/pure enough for him to likely be scum?
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:55 pm

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Well right now we know DEB lied about his roleclaim, which suggests he might have been scum. I don't think the wagon analysis is the main reason to think he was scum. DEB's "doctor enabler" claim directly contradicts Dann's claimed doc save on us. So it would be unsurprising if he noped out of the dead thread to not spew any further.

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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:59 pm

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Pardon me for asking. Assume both you and Dr Easy Bake are mafia.

Is there a reason I should not assume that you, as scum, could have no-killed in order to provide invalidity to Dr Easy Bake's claim and established yourself as incorrectly soft-confirmed town?
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:01 pm

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That would require us to know that Dannflor would be making the doc save on us.

Us to make this gambit requires us to be scum with Dannflor and then to have killed our scum partner.

It also requires us to make that play with basically 0% of the real town power structure revealed.

Sounds like a likely scenario to me!

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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 1843, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:Pardon me for asking. Assume both you and Dr Easy Bake are mafia.

Is there a reason I should not assume that you, as scum, could have no-killed in order to provide invalidity to Dr Easy Bake's claim and established yourself as incorrectly soft-confirmed town?
I thought this earlier however too many things line up in the other direction. If Dann had not flipped doc it could have been possible, but he did flip doc and he said he protected AA so occams razor says they're town and managed to block the scum kill N1.

If it were a farce Dann and AA had to be working together imo.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:09 pm

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Well, he didn't flip though. It's just highly unlikely that he was lying.

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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:15 pm

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Lmao *claim doc then get NK'd.
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:37 pm

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I agree. Thanks.
In post 1846, Chickadee wrote:Well, he didn't flip though. It's just highly unlikely that he was lying.

OSTENTATIOUS - we have good reason to take DEB as confirmed scum.
Let's hear it?
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:37 pm

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In post 1806, Arkham Asylum wrote:I'd like you to ask Dann whether Rose is or is not the best girl and if not then who. Tell him to answer truthfully.

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